Kichae,

News should absolutely be free, and freely available.

It being on Facebook is not either of those things, though.

wahming,

Hence the current policy of not allowing news on Facebook Canada. Guess what, it’s not benefiting anybody.

Rocket,

News is allowed, just not links to third-party media outlets. I notice the local CTV reporter has started posting the news directly on Facebook rather than linking into CTV like he used to do. Which is fine – who on Facebook wants to leave Facebook in the first place? Users use Facebook because they want to use Facebook, not painful third-party websites that have paid no attention to UX.

Pxtl,
@Pxtl@lemmy.ca avatar

The truth is paywalled. Only the lies are free.

nik282000,
@nik282000@lemmy.ca avatar

How about instead of shakedown laws we pass some laws about malicious advertising online? People are less likely to block ads when the ads are not actively trying to fuck over their device.

Touching_Grass,

I agree. Like right to repair laws. There should be laws that give people a right to opt out of all advertising online.

nik282000,
@nik282000@lemmy.ca avatar

Right to repair is a huge issue that most people totally ignore, it’s frustrating. However you can’t ban advertising online. it’s how operators pay for their servers. Either every site that provides a service has a subscription model or runs ads.

pimento64,

Or relies on donations, or relies on grants, or sells merchandise. All, along with subscriptions, are preferable to ads, which should be outlawed.

Touching_Grass,

You can ban it. Its not my problem how they pay. Nobody asked them to take over the internet and turn ever pixel into an ad. Ban ads, these sites die and we get back the real internet.

nik282000,
@nik282000@lemmy.ca avatar

You know someone has to pay for websites right? Like If no one donated to Wikipedia they would not exist. If you want to get back to “The Real Internet” you are going to have to start hosting all your own images, blog posts, e-mail server…

sik0fewl,

Did you just receive an email from Jimmy Wales, too?

Nouveau_Burnswick,

He emails me every year and I give him money every year.

Wikimedia got me through all my degrees/certifications.

sik0fewl,

The email said I hadn't donated in two years, so I'm probably due!

Touching_Grass, (edited )

Taking away advertising doesn’t take that away. It just means websites no longer free load by wasting our free time.

If you want to get back to “The Real Internet” you are going to have to start hosting all your own images, blog posts, e-mail server

No, you wouldn’t. But also not a terrible idea. We don’t need 90% of the content online. We need most of it scrubbed.

Rocket, (edited )

However you can’t ban advertising online. it’s how operators pay for their servers.

And how do you think John Deere pays for its servers?

No, not by ads, but by locking down their software such that only those who pay a fee to enable the features which rely on those servers are able to use those features. Right to repair is seen as a problem for them because it would open up the software configuration, allowing enabling of those features without paying the fee.

Right to repair trusts that actors will act in good faith and pay the fee, even if it can be technically avoided. Why can’t ads go the same way? If you opt-out of seeing ads then surely we can trust that you will pay the equivalence by some other means?

avidamoeba, (edited )
@avidamoeba@lemmy.ca avatar

The survey suggests that two out of every three Canadians think that news should be free and accessible to anyone, and “the struggling media have other ways to make money.”

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That feeling was highest among 18 to 34-year-olds, a group that mainly gets their news from social media.

Unsurprising given the landscape we grew up in and problematic. At least I’m guess this cohort would be more inclined to have more publicly funded media to make it “free” to all.

ValueSubtracted,
@ValueSubtracted@startrek.website avatar

A new survey suggests that most Canadians feel news should be free and accessible for anyone

Yes.

while also believing that media will find other ways to make money.

Doubt.

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