I actually find Ezra and Lex unbearable for different reasons.
Lex is just really not good at interviewing and given his stances, I can’t really trust that the “experts” he interviews are respected/knowledgeable in their fields. Also, I got the feeling that he is kind of an idiot.
Ezra is way too much up his own ass in high minded philosophical debates, that don’t really mean anything. It sounds smart, but if you actually listen, you realize that he just spent 5min saying almost nothing.