gpollara,
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An interesting Letter to the Editor in CMI. It actually makes 2 separate but related points: 🧵

  1. States the benefits of authors re-using peer review performed by other journals, even in the case of paper rejects. It points out the importance of honesty by the authors (though presumably journals can talk to each and also share that information).
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    https://www.clinicalmicrobiologyandinfection.com/article/S1198-743X(23)00364-6/fulltext?dgcid=raven_jbs_aip_email
paulralph,
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@gpollara @academicchatter This would be a great idea if every study of peer review ever had not found that peer review is totally unreliable and decisions mostly come down to review selection...

gpollara,
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@paulralph @academicchatter true - though however iffy a review may be (and usually they are ok), there are always some good / interesting points raised that grudgingly do actually improve the manuscript by addressing. Seems a waste not to make use of and acknowledge that input.

paulralph,
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@gpollara @academicchatter Yes it is a waste to ignore the good points but there's no effective way of retaining the useful feedback withhold saddling the paper with the toxic, destructive, nonsensical garbage. It gives the reviewer too much power to demand force authors to incorporate incorrect changes.

HansZauner,
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@gpollara @academicchatter

Open #PeerReview and #Preprints solve the honesty problem:

If reviewers share their comments publicly, linked to a public preprint, journal editors can work from this source and don't need to rely on anonymous info transmitted by the authors.

grimmiges,
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@HansZauner @gpollara @academicchatter

Absolutely true.

Problem only is that (at least in my fields, related to fundamental biological reseach), a lot of researchers don't dare or cannot afford to comment publicly.

gpollara,
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@grimmiges @HansZauner @academicchatter yes I thought the same. Many in the field revel in the anonymity of tough peer review. If they had to think their comments maybe seen publicly, may not be such a bad thing!

Also in reality, who's got time to also read peer review comments?!

grimmiges,
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@gpollara @HansZauner @academicchatter

Indeed, it's a system that only works if the research community supports and sustains it wholeheartedly.

But based on my experience, in my fields, many of the big players have a lot to lose if the process would become transparant.

Personally, I always signed my reviews (even when the journal policies were against it) and like to comment openly.

But I'm also out of the professional business, I can afford it.

gpollara,
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@grimmiges @HansZauner @academicchatter that's v refreshing of you to have done that. Need more openness in science.

grimmiges,
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@gpollara @HansZauner @academicchatter

Scientifically, it paid off. Because of my usually incruciating but signed reviews, e.g. a cooperation started that much advances until this day our knowledge about oaks and beeches.

Professionally, there's absolutely nothing to gain from it. The appreciation of colleagues (incl. authors) never translates into job offers.

gpollara,
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The other point is a more generic one: 🧵

  1. that universities should begin to take into account the amount of peer review that academics do as part of their performance evaluation / assessment for promotion, etc...
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    https://www.clinicalmicrobiologyandinfection.com/article/S1198-743X(23)00364-6/fulltext?dgcid=raven_jbs_aip_email
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