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generalEdo, to technology in Thunderbird 115 "Supernova" launched

I may try Thunderbird again. Only thing I do not like about the screenshots is the far left toolbar, but I will still check it out.

Unsaved5831,

I just tried it out. Good that it allows you to collapse it.

Leviathan,

Outlook is trying to force that on users as well…it’s really a waste of screen real estate for those of us who never use that toolbar.

smitten,

The thin one that navigates between calendar, contacts, etc? That’s always been there in thunderbird.

Leviathan,

I guess I must have always had it collapsed. In the new Outlook, they removed the option to remove or collapse it.

sibloure,

Thankfully you can hide it. The new UI is pretty customizable.

Redex68, to technology in Thunderbird 115 "Supernova" launched

They finally updated the calendar so it doesn’t look like it’s out of windows 95? Thank god. I really wanna use it now but I’m too tied down to Outlook now. I guess I’ll try to migrate.

If it had a mobile app it would make it much easier. The Outlook mobile app is really good.

jalda,

They have renamed the K9 app to Thunderbird Mobile

KLISHDFSDF,
@KLISHDFSDF@lemmy.ml avatar

I believe they’ve inherited the K-9 Mail app project but haven’t yet renamed it. At least it’s still showing up as K-9 Mail for me on an Android device.

GeekSquad1992,

Coming Soon^TM^

But yeah, they’re plugging away at it yet. Basically, K-9 sat in maintenance mode for a good while, and while it worked, there’s a lot of tidying up to do yet. I imagine they’ll have the Thunderbird name on it once it has some of the bigger pieces in place.

idle, to technology in Thunderbird 115 "Supernova" launched
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This looks great. Would be awesome if i could host this in a docmer container so i dont need to manage installs on clients.

wizardbeard,
@wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

I think it might be time for an intervention, thats some serious Docker addiction lol.

idle,
@idle@158436977.xyz avatar

Oh ya im addicted for sure

dnzm,
@dnzm@lemmy.ml avatar

That’s what Ansible is for. Stuffing a gui app in a container still leaves you with the job of actually having to deploy it, anyway.

idle,
@idle@158436977.xyz avatar

Good idea, ill look into that. Been meaning to learn ansible for some time now anyways.

Beanerrr, to technology in Thunderbird 115 "Supernova" launched

I’ve tried Thunderbird and wasn’t convinced… My work life is basically email, and I’ve tried several email apps over the years, a lot more than most people. I’ve found Postbox on desktop and Spark on mobile to be the magic pair for me so far. Unless Postbox fails me, I don’t think I’ll bother trying anything else anytime soon… Though I’m open to suggestions for mobile, since there’s room for improvement with Spark.

observantTrapezium, (edited ) to technology in Thunderbird 115 "Supernova" launched
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It’s well past 15:00 EST and the version I get when downloading is 102.13.0 for some reason.

Edit: solved by itself after some minutes, probably a CDN thing.

MangoPenguin, to technology in Thunderbird 115 "Supernova" launched
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Does anyone know if they’ve fixed performance? Thunderbird feels really slow to navigate and fetch messages.

Nefyedardu, to technology in Thunderbird 115 "Supernova" launched

Are there any plans for tray icon and desktop notification support? Those features are the only reason I would run a desktop email client, without them I'll just use a browser. I know Birdtray exists but I can't get it to work with flatpak Thunderbird.

Tibert,

There may be solutions for your issue. github.com/gyunaev/birdtray/issues/514

Maybe try birdtray flatpak or using the special launch argument as described in the link from the comment.

Reliant1087,

The desktop notifications are built in now. As for tray, I’m trying out systray-x.

fox2263, to technology in Thunderbird 115 "Supernova" launched

Can it connect to Exchange without a paid plugin?

PeachMan,
@PeachMan@lemmy.one avatar

uhhh… paid plugin? just use IMAP

bluejay,
@bluejay@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

My work has IMAP shut off and we can only use MAPI. There’s a paid thunderbird plugin that adds MAPI support, which is likely what this person is hoping for natively 👍

PeachMan, (edited )
@PeachMan@lemmy.one avatar

Ahhhh fair enough, I didn’t realize MAPI was a paid plugin, that suuuuucks

EDIT: Reading up on this, it sounds like it doesn’t work because Microsoft doesn’t want it to work. MAPI is not an open standard like POP and IMAP. And they’re actually in the process of moving to EWS, which is also not an open standard. That fucking sucks!

fox2263,

Other email clients support Exchange/365, such as Spark. And also there’s the fact there is the built in Windows Mail which supports it (of course) which Thunderbird has to compete with. And once it’s updated to “Outlook” it’ll stop looking tragic too.

So Thunderbird really should offer it to compete. Lots of people have Hotmail after all and would like full integration.

PeachMan,
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Doesn’t seem like Spark offers anything other than IMAP+SMTP Exchange support, just like Thunderbird: sparkmailapp.com/add-exchange-mac

So if your job blocks those protocols (for security reasons) then you can’t use Spark for your work email.

Anybody know what the paid plug-in for Thunderbird is? I’m curious to see what they’re doing, if they have some sort of hacky workaround.

lel,

All I know is that I’m in the same situation and the gmail mobile app works, so there’s something you can do.

PeachMan,
@PeachMan@lemmy.one avatar

Yeah that’s generally the goal of disabling IMAP, it just means your company is forcing you to use the official Gmail or Outlook app. It makes some sense, as if you look for email apps on the app store, you’ll see a ridiculous amount of random crap with no guarantee that they’re not spying on every email you send and receive.

hcbxzz,

I’ve been using DavMail, which is FOSS. It works as a local proxy to translate IMAP to Exchange API.

kresten, to technology in Thunderbird 115 "Supernova" launched

That looks awesome!

Takato83, to technology in Thunderbird 115 "Supernova" launched

Hopefully after this they focus on the IOS app! Would love to consolidate so many different chat, email, and rss readers into one app!

InfiniteFlow, to technology in Thunderbird 115 "Supernova" launched
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I’ve used thunderbird pretty much from the start, for the last 20 years or so. The UI was looking a bit dated, lately, so I’m really looking forward to this. The next thing we need is better performance (I may suffer more than most as I have literally hundreds of thousands of messages and dozens of folders on the imap server). Fingers crossed!

GnuLinuxDude, to technology in Thunderbird 115 "Supernova" launched
@GnuLinuxDude@lemmy.ml avatar

Looks nice. I’m not an email power user but I still use Thunderbird just to handle multiple accounts. I’m grateful to this software for simplifying my life a bit.

cyanarchy,

I recently went back to using Thunderbird after not doing so for, I don’t know, maybe a decade. Having everything in one place is very convenient indeed.

DarkThoughts, to technology in Thunderbird 115 "Supernova" launched

That definitely looks different. I assume they still haven't put the system tray functionality back?

seacocker, to technology in Thunderbird 115 "Supernova" launched
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I used Thunderbird about 10 years ago? Looks amazing compared to what I remember.

InfiniWheel,

It looked almost the same as the last time tou used it just before this version. Which means this is an absolutely huge step forward for the UI

lel,

I was gonna say, I tried it a couple months ago and I’m pretty sure it hadn’t been changed since when I was using it in like 2012. I thought a theme might help so I checked out the available themes, and the “popular” ones were ones that felt like they were from back then too. Everyone remembers Firefox / Thunderbird themes from back then: frosted glass, photos of space, flames, lots of gradients, themes that look like wood for some reason, that gross red text on black-white gradient background. It was like the entire app was aesthetically trapped in the early 2010s, even the community’s themes.

birdcat, (edited )
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I used Thubderbird about 10 minutes ago and this indeed looks amazing compared to what I remember.

Edit; how to downgrade to the version? why still no conversation view? 😭

Great. Downgrading deleted my profile. Thanks a lot for the constant “innovation”,gonna take me hours to set thst shit up again.

Edit 2; no matter how frustrated you are with thunderbird, DO NOT INSTALL OUTLOOK

Leafimo,

just copy over your profile backup that you certainly created beforehand

Exec,
@Exec@pawb.social avatar

If you downgrade, expect glitches with your too new profile. Obviously it’s not going to be backwards-compatible.

ech0,

You’re a moron lol

baseless_discourse, to technology in Thunderbird 115 "Supernova" launched

The new website is also pretty epic: www.thunderbird.net/en-US/ (bit messed up on mobile)

Unfortunately the flathub version doesn’t seem to be updated.

mercan,

Yeah, the downloads section is not looking good (on Safari at least) https://i.imgur.com/3ie3KE6.jpg

crystal,

It works on Chromium browsers. It does not work on Firefox.

Interesting to see even Mozilla apparently testing their websites only on Chromium.

normonator,

It works on Firefox mobile

crystal,

Works for me too now. Seems like they fixed it.

webghost0101,

And here i though “pretty epic” seems rather weird to me. I’ll have to check on desktop later.

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