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woshang,

Got it, thx for your explaination

woshang,

I agree with you that moderation is needed. I think what they eliminate is the ability for users to create secret groups that can be found in the Discovery section (where people can see all the active chat spaces and feeds in the past 48 hrs). Secret groups are invite-only, while public groups allow users to simply click and join, making moderation not applicable in the latter.

I don’t quite understand what you mean by “And if something happens, can you spin up your own instance,” though.

woshang,

For now, I guess not a lot of people are using it, so spam has not shown up yet. But what I mean is, if you have a feed space on WireMin, no one can post anything on your feed page. It’s kind of a decentralized version of Twitter, where you can have your profile page, and no one can post stuff on it. You can avoid spam in the discovery section because it only shows all active spaces within the past 48 hrs, and the same goes for public chat spaces. However, secret spaces might be a good location for a spam-free chat room.

woshang,

"may” be evidence? wdym

woshang,

Yeah, I used it for about a week, and remember I mentioned that they lacked some small features? Some users would ask the team in their official chat room for new features, such as vanish mode, GIFs, and stickers. The team would carefully consider whether these features might compromise user privacy or lead to data leaks. The dev team would then explain the potential implications to the users within the chat room and see if they still wanted those features.

woshang,

why would they tho? Plus, they don’t collect your personal info man, who in the world knows who u r?

woshang,

I am still watching, and I am not saying I completely trust this app or trying to convince you to trust this app either. I am merely providing a fair example of a real anti-censorship network, compare to Twitter or FB, that’s it.

The only trusted point I can find is that they are listed on the Alchemy dapp store, which is poised to disrupt the monopoly of industry heavyweights like DappRadar. Additionally, I did not provide any personal information when registering or expose my identity within the app.

Plus, I have been doing research about decentralized structures for quite a long time, so I understand how they work and can distinguish whether WireMin is telling the truth on their FAQ page about the technology-supported logic.

But if you don’t want to take my point of view, just ignore it man.

woshang,

I understand what you mean, man. I guess maybe they are not ready yet? That’s probably why they are not as loud as Session, even though I see some of their features are better than Session. Besides, they claim to be a small team, so…

Anyway, I hope they publish their source code asap

woshang,

I think POW alone can’t prevent bots but rather spams. I understand that not having a high enough level of POW may decrease the ability to prevent spam, but let’s consider it from the user’s perspective. If WireMin has a high level of POW, that might increase CPU processing power consumption, which could harm the user’s device from no matter battery or others.

From my perspective, I think they eliminate spams in this way: User/Non-user can’t search for a specific space by name, no matter within the app or on other search engin, they have to obtain the invite-link or have someone in their WireMin contacts invite them to view or join the space.

A tip: we can always create a secret group if we don’t want all users to see the space on the discovery section (as the discovery section only shows public spaces) or to eliminate spams. For the Feed, only the owner of the feed space can post content.

I agree with you on the concern about wasting storage space and bandwidth on other users’ encrypted messages that have nothing to do with you. This is an issue that mutiple ones reported within the WireMin official chat space before.

woshang,

For old people??lmao

woshang,

1000000000% agree on that

woshang,

Why?

woshang,

True, and I have one as storage. Idk why some people say that

woshang,

At the end of the day, the winner for privacy is … Decentralization Cuz no central server means:

  • Data only save in your own device
  • Anonymous, never link to your personal info
  • E2EE
woshang,

Session - A private messaging tool, could be an alternative for Whatsapp/Telegram getsession.org/…/session-decentralised-network

WireMin - A decentralized social network, so could be an alternative for Twitter/FB, but also can do DMs wiremin.org/#/blog/5

Personall prefered WireMin, cuz I can share blog posts on Feed, and using it as a instant messanger as well.

woshang,

Earth friendly hotpot and no need to add salt lmao

woshang,

No one should hand out their ‘everything’ to anyone

woshang,

I am not 100% sure I will ditch Twitter or X whatever, cuz I know Elon is try to be the data master, and spying on us all the time, I might keep it for fun, but never handing out a single piece of my information (use fake ones), but I won’t use it for private chat for sure, I only trust decentralized/e2ee structure for private chat. Like WireMin or Session.

woshang,

I guess w’ll c if X works

woshang,

Thats from WireMin, I saw it too 😂

woshang,

Most of the are celebrities, they make money from giving up their privacy right.

woshang,

Then don’t leave a comment bro

woshang,

agreed

woshang,

I was wondering if he would hire someone from China who previously runs “everything” app like Wechat. People should definatly look for alternatives

woshang,

Now he is being a copy cat of Zuck, collecting all those data

woshang,

And it is fading

woshang,

Look how many people joined Threads? I guess still falling for his techno-Pozi scheme, plus there is no need for people to download an new app.

woshang,

Where did you go, if not twitter

woshang,

I think i ditched fb for almost 3-4 yrs

woshang,

Everything is fake

woshang,

That is sooooo true tho 😂

woshang,

That’s werid, maybe is Zuck afraid of getting su again by eu lmao

woshang,

What if I use decentralized app? All there services are unrelated to the ios system or others, would that be safe? Cuz I am currently using one, and all the service might need users data, they stay away from it, or askusers permission first.

woshang,

sounds sus

woshang,

I guess the whole Threads battle making Elon realize he needs to be the data master, and X born earlier than I expected

woshang,

X video…

woshang,

Egg and sausage? lmao, everywhere has their own kind of sausage okay?

woshang,

And healthy!

woshang,

Japanese loves carbs

woshang,

Kinda want to have it for desert tonight.

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