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On Coining a New Term (kbin.social)

Edit: alright I'm sticking this up here because a number of people seem confused--this post isn't trying to convince you that "fediverse" is a bad term--rather it's a discussion of why I think "threadiverse" is a good umbrella term, for the forum-based part of the fediverse specifically. (lemmy+kbin)...

SNEEZ,
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yes lol

SNEEZ,
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hey; just because I thought it was funny doesn't invalidate my points--and I'm not saying that it's vital we have a good name to sum up this segment of the fediverse for it to succeed; I'm saying it'll probably succeed faster if we have one.

SNEEZ,
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I think that's really more a problem with facebook using a broad term for their app name than anything--but yeah; facebook has a habit of co-opting broad terms; my opinion is if we start using it first; we'll probably have it name recognition-wise, since our platform's far superior.

Beauty in this though is that there is no unified "threadiverse" platform; it's just Lemmy+Kbin+whatever comes next; and as such there's not much commitment to using any term over another--if "threadiverse" doesn't catch on; we'll get something better at some point

SNEEZ, (edited )
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oh yeah; I wasn't saying it doesn't need explaining--but that once it's explained it's easily remembered

what I was pointing out there is that reddit's name contains pointless obfuscation, and random info like the fact that reddit is red--and that when you're coining a term, not forging a brand, you don't have to do that nonsense

SNEEZ,
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meta only owns the concept of threads if we let them; but that aside forumverse is almost as good a term--it just doesn't rhyme with fediverse--

it's not like we're naming any platform "threadiverse"--it's just a useful technical term for the thread-based forum part of the fediverse

SNEEZ,
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I think you've misunderstood my post--perhaps I wasn't clear enough; but I'm not saying fediverse is a bad term that needs replacing; nor am I saying the threadiverse won't succeed if it's not called the threadiverse--

I'm saying that fediverse is a broad term that encompasses all of the connected sites here; not just the thread-based forum ones--it's a broad umbrella term, and a good one.

But in my opinion at least, it's good to have more niche umbrella terms like threadiverse for use beneath the broad ones--

You're perfectly entitled to disagree, but I'd appreciate it if you didn't try to shut down productive discussion just because you personally don't see the need for more specific terminology.

SNEEZ,
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"Attempting to shut down discussion" is probably the wrong phrasing--regardless calling opposing positions "a joke" will never be conducive to useful discussion.

To actually address your point--yes; that's what I'm saying--we are the early adopters; and yes, nobody ever cares about the name of something--and frankly, the name doesn't matter.

But right now, the platform we are on has no name--hence why I made a post about one particular name I think is good, and why.

As I said before; we have names for the individual access points; Lemmy and Kbin-- and we have a name for the ecosystem they exist within; the Fediverse-- but we have no name for what Lemmy and Kbin are; there's currently no standard umbrella term for the forum section of the Fediverse.

My point is not that having the perfect name matters necessarily; rather that having a name at all is something that is, in my opinion, important--the more useful the terminology the better.

SNEEZ,
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I mean, threadiverse works pretty well to describe this area specifically

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