43 “You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ 44 But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, 45 that you may be children of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. 46 If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? 47 And if you greet only your own people, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? 48 Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.
Matthew 7
33 “‘When a foreigner resides among you in your land, do not mistreat them. 34 The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the Lord your God.
Leviticus 19
19 And you are to love those who are foreigners
Deuteronomy 10
14 “You must not defraud a hired worker who is in need and poor, whether one of your brothers or a foreign resident in your land, within your cities. … 17 Do not deprive the foreigner or the fatherless of justice,
Deuteronomy 24
I do think Christ had some choice things to say about these “Christians”:
21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ 23 Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’
Matthew 7
41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’ 44 “They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’ 45 “He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’ 46 “Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.”
I mean, there were still razor wire booby traps in the water. Whether or not they were forced to cross is irrelevant, literal death traps hidden in the water is absolutely inhumane.
The trooper’s email said razor wire-wrapped barrels have been placed into the Rio Grande in areas with low visibility, leading to injuries like the woman’s.
There is no legal distinction. Anywhere you are allowed to use barbwire you are allowed to use Razorwire ™ and both are used all over the world as passive barriers and no where are barbwire or “razorwire” considered a “booby trap.”
Using legality as a gauge for morality is not always the best thing to do, especially when these are law enforcement agencies operating entirely within the law.
no where are barbwire or “razorwire” considered a “booby trap.”
So you’re being wilfully obtuse. Nowhere was anyone implying the use of barbed wire is what makes it a booby trap. Every single time it was mentioned, it was clear: it is a booby trap because it is a purposefully hidden device meant to cause harm to those who stumble upon it by accident.
It also does matter the distinction between razor wire and barbed wire. Barbed wire you can hold in your hand. You can grip it, move your hand along it, and indeed are unlikely to be very harmed by encountering it; it is designed as an unpleasant deterrant, not a dangerous one. Razorwire, on the other hand, is designed to cause harm: every part of it is dangerous, and an encounter with it would result in deep lacerations.
But again, it could be barbed wire and my point would stand: the concealment of it is what makes it a booby trap, and what makes it a problem.
If you want to talk about morality, then you don’t need to even mention legal terms like booby-trap. They are irrelevant. I like Jezebel and I am a militant leftist. I am also for unrestricted immigration while still making crossing at non-official border points illegal. But non of these things matter in my initial argument.
If you think borders/countries should exist, like everyone except for born-too-soon anarchists, then there is no problem here. Jezebel aren’t anarchists though. If pressed they will say the disagree with the current US policy on immigration. Not that they all borders should be open at every geographic point of entry.
So they are bringing in legal terms like “booby-trap” to try to muddy the waters instead of saying what their criticism is. Their criticism is that current border-patrol policy’s are too harsh (I agree), but securing a border can’t be a clean thing. Either a border exists as a State enforced entity or it doesn’t. If they want to say that the US should open it’s borders, I’m on board, that doesn’t mean free crossing into the US at every geographic spot. So in order to discourage crossing at non-official crossings, the only answer is passive barriers. If you are against passive barriers then you have to make that clear in the text, but Jezebel didn’t do that.
So in order to discourage crossing at non-official crossings, the only answer is passive barriers.
Completely visible barriers would do the trick.
You’ve somehow, again, managed to miss the point: the purpose was not just deterrence, the purpose was to hide them and cause unexpected harm. I’m not using booby trap to evoke any legality relating to the word; I’m using the word to evoke the horrendously inhumane use of hidden weapons meant to cause harm to those who accidentally stumble upon them.
You’re defending a horrific practice in the guise of it being a necessary evil, when in all actuality, it’s just one horrific out of many not-horrific implementations of something that you’re overtly in favor of.
Ah, already to the “intent” argument. The intent is 100% to stop migrants. That is the intent of literally every single border. If you are jumping into that trap and saying that the problem here is the specific method used to stop migrants, you are playing their game and are basically just a liberal.
Don’t be a coward. The intent is to cause harm, otherwise it wouldn’t be hidden. Build up the courage to admit that at least, rather than just saying “you’re a liberal…” So weak, dude.
The trooper’s email said razor wire-wrapped barrels have been placed into the Rio Grande in areas with low visibility, leading to injuries like the woman’s.
The trooper’s email said razor wire-wrapped barrels have been placed into the Rio Grande in areas with low visibility, leading to injuries like the woman’s.
If he lived to obey the law he should look up Katko v. Briney. The case is notable for the proposition that, although a landowner has no duty to make his property safe for trespassers, he may not set deadly traps against them.
It's razor wire, not barbwire. It caused life-threatening injuries (in one case caused a miscarriage - isn't abortion murder, according to many folks?) and was deliberately placed in spots where it wouldn't be seen.
It's a booby trap. It doesn't have to literally be a shotgun set up in exactly the same way as Katko v Briney for it to count as one.
Yeah, dude. Set up some booby traps and argue that they willingly walked into them. See how that works out for you in court. Let’s see how many years in jail you get.
And again. Where in the article does it say that it’s booby trapped? There’s not even an image or anything. The only image of barbed wire is one where it’s clearly visible.
The “hidden” claim is only by an anonymous witness reported by a bias source. Like even if the barbwire was hidden, what is the point of the article? That actually our border policy is fine, if only the barbwire fences were painted with high-vis?
What are you, fucking Jigsaw? If you place traps designed to murder people you are murdering them and the state shouldn’t be allowed to murder migrants. Do you have some other idea about what should be allowed to do with migrants? Feel free to share with the class.
I’m complaining about the article itself… It is clearly written in a way that you imagine the worst possible thing, but doesn’t show any hint of proof for it. Literally the only imagine of barbed wire on that site, is one where it a clearly visible high fence (stock photo).
Also there are no other sources for this in the internet that I could quickly find. It’s just a sob story to emotionally manipulate you.
Don’t be a coward. Your argument wasn’t that the article was false. Your argument was that it made it sound like someone forced them into the traps. Then you, based on your own opinion, said that its sounds like the migrants took a chance that didn’t work out. That is you expressing the opinion that literal death traps is something they account for in their risk analysis and that is fair game.
Its ok to be a coward btw. You can just edit that part out and admit it was a stupid and monstrous thing to say. It’s fine, but don’t pretend you said something else while we can read what you said.
It’s just a sob story to emotionally manipulate you.
I'm seeing this line of thinking more and more. The echo chambers increase in intensity every day.
"If you have a negative emotional reaction to a news story about your team, ignore it, it's a liberal psyop!" - How miraculously convenient for your average psychopathic conservative. From the same people who espouse "law and order" and "Christian morality" but also "it's not a crime if you're not caught".
What an insanely ghoulish take.
Here I'm referring to a ghoul as being monstrous and not human because of the total lack of empathy and lack of curiosity. Two of the characteristics that most people would say are most human
While that website is known for terrible writing and fact checking, this isn’t one of those times.
(To clarify the accusation: They once wrote an article complainig about Chun-Li not being included in the latest Mortal Kombat release. They ended up updating the article to clarify that they were not being ironic or making a joke. And that’s just the tip of the iceberg. )
No, you’re options are travel legally or suffer the consequences of trying to do so illegally. Did a border patrol agent karate kick her into the wire? What forced that human being to travel through it? Their own decisions.
The consequences are arrest, jail and deportation. Not losing your baby after getting sliced open by razor wire. You sound like a horribly inhumane person.
You do understand that this whole fetishizing-imaginary-lines-on-a-map-thing isn’t even traditional in the US, right? It only became a thing after WW1?
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