@startrek I forgot Tuvok. And that's kind of the point. He's not on-screen enough. I like Tim Russ quite a bit. My other issue with Tuvok is so far I haven't seen enough to really distinguish him from other Vulcan characters, like Spock. There's the ep with the children, but I think that's it. Mostly I blame it being an ensemble show, you can never get enough depth on characters. At best, maybe 1-2 get good depth but they had 8 main characters who were credited in every ep.