Disengage and dex save doesnt apply to how tanky rogues are? “And if they miss, they get nothing” in the same paragraph you wrote Scorching Ray? It isnt about how much dmg and tanky they are in a thread that is really only about that (a comment thread you started yourself talking about being tanky and doing dmg)? My man, this discussion is over, but only because it’s clear you have no idea what point you are trying to make.