drewdevault ,
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The story of Wayland:

  1. No one wanted to maintain X11 because it sucked
  2. We made Wayland and it's much better
  3. A vocal minority of change-averse people complained with little to no factual basis
  4. They were asked to muster some labor to maintain X11
  5. None of them did
  6. All of the people who actually do get work done eventually stopped listening to them and moved on with Wayland
orva ,
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@drewdevault I also love that some of those grumpy ones are angry that people dared to start wayland instead of fixing X11 issues.. forgetting that people who started wayland were core X11 maintainers who actually got paid by redhat/canonical to keep X11 in life support.

So they preferred new unproven tool over stable income until pension. That should say a lot.

bluGill ,
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@orva

@drewdevault That is why I supported wayland from the beginning when it barely had any code at all: the people behind it knew what the real problems with X11 were from experience. there were several other attempts to replace X11 before then, but the X11 maintainers who understood the real problems said those wouldn't fix anything.

Bankizo ,
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@drewdevault no one maintain x11 because there is nothing to maintain
it's finished software

drewdevault OP ,
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@Bankizo fact check: false

bluGill ,
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@drewdevault

@Bankizo Getting close to true though: software is finished not when there isn't more work to do, but when nobody cares to maintain it. X11 isn't completely unmaintained, but it is getting close.

drewdevault OP ,
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Some of these detractors built a tottering pile of godawful hacks on top of X11 where every piece depends on another critical design flaw of X11 and are upset that by fixing all of these design flaws their pile of hacks fell over when no one wanted to maintain the load bearing side of their hacks

drewdevault OP ,
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The beauty of free software is that if you don't like something, you can fix it! But if you don't like something and you bitch for 10 years because no one else is fixing it for you then you're just an asshole, dude.

drewdevault OP ,
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Fun fact, I didn't like the fact that you couldn't take a screenshot on Wayland... so I bloody well implemented screenshots on Wayland and now people still bitch about it when literally every goddamn wayland compositor supports screenshots, most of them thanks to yours truly

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