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So I ran memtest86+ on my desktop.
It didn't error!
or succeed. It just... hung, 25 minutes in.

that's probably not a good sign

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I'm gonna have to start pulling parts out and get it down to a minimal hardware setup and see if it still crashes.

like, I probably could disconnect the floppy drives. those shouldn't be needed just to run memtest

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even if they are clearly VITAL for day-to-day work

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yanked the odd hardware like GPU and hard drives, as well as the common stuff like DVI video capture device, both floppy drives, optical drive, and serial port

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I had to go find another keyboard though. my spare keyboard on hand is an AT keyboard, and while of course I have a (hand made!) AT-to-PS/2 adapter, this computer for some reason only has USB ports.

I can't understand these companies just expecting us to have obscure hardware on hand to diagnose their failures.

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I normally have it plugged into a KVM but I'm bypassing that on the extreme off-chance that there's some weird interaction between the KVM and the PC

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WE'VE GOT ERRORS! hitting a bunch of RAM problems around 31-39gb.

nastily that's divided between two banks. So... it's probably not just one pair of DIMMS going bad.
(and of course it's also possible it's some other problem that's causing RAM issues)

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yanked half the RAM to see if it still errors

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with half ram, I did two successful passes of memtest86+, no errors. time to check THE OTHER HALF (to confirm if it was just a needs-reseating/too much ram for the mobo problem)

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and it passes too.
So, either my motherboard has stopped being able to support 64gb, or it was just a reseating problem. Let's stick it back in and see.

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that's... probably not a good sign

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I really don't like that it corrupted outside of the text window.
That shouldn't be happening if this is just a RAM problem. That's like... a GPU corruption problem.

Which is very bad because I'm currently using the CPU's on-die GPU

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@manawyrm pointed out that my ram sticks weren't properly interleaved. So I'm trying memtest again with that fixed

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NOPE! it ran for 3 hours, threw a ton of memory errors, then crashed in the same matrixy way.
So, back to just one pair of sticks, and I'm gonna let memtest run for a while and see if that seems stable.

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OK so ran the half-ram test for nearly 8 hours with zero issues.
Now I've reattached the GPU, usb ports, serial port, floppy drives, and rust drives and optical drives (but not the m.2 ssds yet because they're boot drives) and I'm running it again, to confirm it's not a PSU problem

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No issues after running for 4 hours!
I'll leave it on overnight but this seems to be functional

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The only thing that's not back in is the two m.2 drives, which I doubt will make much difference.
We'll see!

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It turns out the GPU wasn't in use so I can't be sure it's not still a power problem.
So I fixed that, put in the m.2, and started again

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Memtest didn't complete, but for a very silly reason: I have my computer up on the desk and plugged into a different outlet for this testing, which means there's a power cable crossing the doorway.
When I left the room, moving the cable so I could go under it slid it out of the power supply and it shut off

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memtest completed and now I'm going full on stress testing: playing fullscreen video, 3D games, processing a bunch of shit in the background, some VMs. you know, the usual stuff I do on an average day

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I probably shouldn't try to run the VM that has 16gb of RAM allocated to it, though

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Well that lasted all of 30 minutes before the system hung.
Fuck. It's not just the RAM.

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So, it's probably one of motherboard, cpu, or PSU. At a stretch, it could be the GPU.

I have another spare GPU I could swap in. I have a near-identical CPU that I could swap in (it's in use, but I can temporarily borrow it).
PSU and mobo are trickier.
So, I'll have to try the easy ones first. Swap the GPU and see if windows still hard crashes like that, then the cpu, then start working on the others.

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If you'd like to help me get back online (and gay cats, of course), donations would help. I'm kinda broke and not having a working computer is not going to help.

https://ko-fi.com/fooneturing

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okay today's first test: I yanked out my GPU and I'm running on just the internal GPU. I'm gonna load up some videos, VMs, 3D games, and a bunch of browser tabs. See if this falls over too

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I am not getting a large number of frames, and I only have one game running at the moment.

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somehow I got my youtube video playing over my actual speakers but one of the games playing out the HDMI and the little speakers on the monitor. that's weird.

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I AM STRESS TESTING THIS MACHINE AT NOT A LOT OF FRAMES A SECOND

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okay I've made it an hour running sans-GPU. That doesn't mean it's the GPU though. This machine is using way less power without the GPU... so it could still be a PSU related problem.

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so after running fine for about 3 hours with no GPU, I've gone out and bought a new... power supply.

yeah I don't think it's the GPU. And a flakey PSU could easily fail with the GPU and not without, since the power usage is way lower without a GPU in there

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okay new PSU is in. That took way longer than it should.
Apparently between the RM650x and the RM850x, Corsair redesigned their modular cables, so I couldn't just swap the PSU and reuse the cables. So now I have a cable management nightmare, but it's running. Let's put the stress-testing pants on

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the worst part is that I forgot to double-check that the new PSU would come with the right cables to let me hook up my floppy drives. Thankfully, it did.

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that could have been a disaster

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well my 3.5" floppy drive is working. That's a good test

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changing my PSU seems to have confused Satisfactory into thinking I'm a different person and now I'm sitting on the floor of my own base. WHO ARE YOU?

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CRASHHANG.

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sticking in a different GPU.
Swapping out my Asus Gegorce RTX3070 for an EVGA GeForce GT 1030

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ran an hour and 30 minutes on the other GPU with no crashes.

god damn it, IS it my GPU?

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taking a work meeting from the system under test
this is known as "living dangerously"

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