PlatinumPangolin,

Agree 100%. Especially when you're doing more complicated queries, working with ORM adds so much complexity and obfuscation. In my experience, if you're doing much of anything outside CRUD, they add more work than they save.

I also tend to doubt their performance claims. Especially when you can easily end up mapping much more data when using a ORM than you need to.

I think ORMs are a great example of people thinking absolutely everything needs to be object oriented. OO is great for a lot of things and I love using it, but there are also places where it creates more problems than it solves.

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