confetti_8tVST5,

Didnt read anything about a security key or even a keyfile (poor mans security key w/o phishing protection). Im assuming its protected by totp which is fine but I do kinda prefer a security key

Harrison,

I’m all for open source alternatives to bitwarden but this is non competitive with a mandatory subscription fee. Bitwarden is completely free for most users.

ram,
@ram@lemmy.ca avatar

I thought the same thing but it actually does have a limited free plan. Seems like, similar to BW, it restricts 2FA behind the pass, but also with the pass you get unlimited hide-my-email aliases, multiple vaults to organize in (I don’t know what this means), and eventually autofill credit cards.

This is quite a bit more expensive than BW’s paid plan though. Not sure what all differences it has to BW otherwise.
https://lemmy.ca/pictrs/image/5ad9a6ce-eb03-4025-be61-6c90a9a12648.png

HorseFD,

Has anyone tried it yet? Two downsides for me:

  • there’s no desktop app
  • there’s no Safari desktop extension (I know most people don’t care about this)

It’s also more expensive than Bitwarden even at €1/mth

Dalinar,

Goodbye LastPass (I’m aware I should have migrated already but I was holding out for this)

DanielPlainview,
@DanielPlainview@lemmy.world avatar

The most important step a man can take. It’s not the first one, is it? It’s the next one. Always the next step.

Borgzilla,
@Borgzilla@lemmy.ca avatar

I’m pretty sure the app is great, but I am not a fan of putting all my eggs in the same basket. I will keep using Bitwarden for the time being.

Jarmer,
@Jarmer@kbin.social avatar

Same here. I'm fine using Proton for my mail & drive, but I also like keeping my passwords separate in bitwarden, and my 2fa separate in my raivo. A healthy separation is good.

Distributed,

I wish that proton would focus on the depth of their present stack, as opposed to breadth.

I’ve been begging for rclone support for proton drive for a long time now… without it, I basically have 1tb sitting there useless.

yote_zip,
@yote_zip@pawb.social avatar

Same thoughts here. ProtonVPN under Linux is very poorly supported.

jjffnn,

Just out of curiosity. How is it poorly supported?
I haven’t used it much yet, but the times i have it seems to have worked fine.

yote_zip,
@yote_zip@pawb.social avatar

IIRC it’s missing a number of features that ProtonVPN Windows has. I last checked into it a year or so ago and the attitude was that it was a very shoddy application missing most features. I found this github issue expressing this sentiment but I don’t see much in terms of specifics.

I don’t have a paid ProtonVPN but I just downloaded the VPN on a free account and it only has 3 options on it:

  • Secure Core on/off (only select servers in privacy-friendly countries)
  • Netshield (DNS adblocking etc)
  • Killswitch

I use Mullvad so I opened that up alongside and will list out the features it has on its Linux client in comparison:

  • DNS adblocking
  • Killswitch
  • Wireguard
  • Auto-launch on pc start
  • Split tunnel support
  • Local network split tunnel allowance
  • Disable ipv6
  • Custom DNS server
  • Protocol obfuscation (UDP-over-TCP)
  • Multihop servers
  • Quantum-resistant tunnel (for Wireguard initialization)

The main ones for me are split tunneling and Wireguard. Using a VPN that doesn’t support these is a non-starter for me, unfortunately. If any of this is different when you have a paid ProtonVPN account let me know - I don’t have very much experience with it.

TBH, if protonVPN under linux was any good I would probably have Proton Unlimited. I can’t justify paying for Mullvad and Proton Unlimited, so I DIY my own collection of services to match functionality for about the same price.

jjffnn,

I just had a look and as far as i can tell ProtonVPN suppports everything Mullvad does. On windows…
On linux you get fuckall settings. No split tunneling, no dns, no wireguard, no nothing. There seems to be no parity between linux and windows. That is less than poorly supported, it’s atrocious tbh.
On windows you even get a fancy map with triangles that shows server locations that can be used to quick connect.
And this is with an unlimited account so i don’t believe it’s an account level limit.

Edit: I just looked and to be fair they do state in the plan features that Split tunneling is only available on Android and Windows

neardeaf,

I’m a faithful Bitwarden user. No need to switch

narwhal,

Any strong reasons to switch from KeePassXC?

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