Illegal_Prime,

This is good, now let’s do the same thing on the rails.

sauron,

What a fantastic idea. let’s all switch to electricity where our utility companies can then just artificially jack up our rates cause they know we will have to pay them to get to work.

emergencyfood,

There’s this thing called nationalisation. And until that happens, there are these things called rooftop solar panels.

sauron,

If you think letting the government control our utilities is a good thing, idk what to tell you.

As far as solar panels, yeah…I’m very much aware. I’ve been a solar design engineer for 8 years now, I design those systems. And you think it’s reasonable to pay tens of thousands on a new electric car only to then have to pay tens of thousands more to own a PV system that will ensure you can actually use that car?

I’ll stick with my gas powered motorcycle. Thanks.

baked_tea,

This reads like a trump speech

Yendor,

Is rooftop Solar that expensive in the US? In Australia, I can get a 5kW system fully installed for US$3500.

huskypenguin,

Yes. It’s very expensive. $20-$60k USD

Yendor,

Are you kidding?? Good solar panels are 60-70c/watt, a high end European inverter is $2k, install takes half a day for 2 tradies.

Even with zero incentives or rebatesds, how can a 5kW system cost more than $7k?

$3500 for panels $2000 inverter $800 labour

UserDoesNotExist,

In Germany you might as well pay 10k. Tons of taxes included.

huskypenguin,

Sadly I’m not. There’s a lot of regulatory hurdles required before even turning it on. So you pay for labor and a dedicated team navigating permits and regulations.

Yendor,

Sounds like your government doesn’t want you getting energy independence. Australia was like that 10+ years ago, but now it’s super easy. There are only 2 forms (one for the inverter, one for the panels) and the installer fills it all out for you. Systems <5kW per phase don’t even need prior approval, the installer just submits paperwork after the job is done. The only time it costs you, is if you need your old meter upgraded to a smart meter.

huskypenguin,

Yea, with privatized electric companies they definitively don’t want us to have energy independence.

Yendor,

Yeah, publicly owned power isn’t all up-sides. In my state the government owns the power company, and for a long time we’ve had the most expensive power in the Country. That only changed when the invasion of Ukraine caused gas prices to skyrocket (because my state extracts huge amounts of gas, and the government gets it at a fixed price).

huskypenguin,

I’m not an expert on this field, but there has to be a way to structure a power company as a non profit, or just around sustainable growth.

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