theceoofanarchism

theceoofanarchism, 11 months ago

Except the science doesn’t support that a meat diet is nutritionally necessary.

theceoofanarchism, 11 months ago

Maybe don’t contribute to the commodification of sentient beings.

theceoofanarchism, 11 months ago

Lentils, Tofu, Seitan, Nuts, wild rice, oats, green peas, beans and so much more. You don’t need the dead bodies of sentient beings to get a nutritionally adequate protein supply.

theceoofanarchism, 11 months ago

A cow with thoughts of its own, with a family that wants to live as much as you do.

theceoofanarchism, 11 months ago

You can get protein from plenty of non meat sources like nuts and beans. iron from cashews and oats you can get a nutritionally complete diet without killing sentient beings.

theceoofanarchism, 11 months ago

How is being against the mass slaughter of sentient beings “naive”?

theceoofanarchism, 11 months ago

Except they blatantly do. Sorry your anecdotal experience doesn’t add up with the scientific evidence it must be wrong.

theceoofanarchism, 11 months ago

Let people be doesn’t apply when it involves harming someone else. The harm done to animals is unnecessary violence and cruelty to living thinking beings.

theceoofanarchism, 11 months ago

You hate capitalism yet have a smartphone? hypocrite much

theceoofanarchism, 11 months ago

Omnivores who primarily didn’t eat meat. Until recently in non hunter gatherer societies at least meat was a luxury not a staple and it would still be that why if not for massive subsidies. Letting people do what they want doesn’t apply when there are victims which animals are.

theceoofanarchism, 11 months ago

Compared to the meat and dairy industry their environmental problems are minuscule.

theceoofanarchism, 11 months ago

Animals experience pleasure and work to avoid pain. They have preferences and wishes and societies.

theceoofanarchism, 11 months ago (edited 11 months ago)

Are they in danger from hurting themself because they are stressed at their confinement maybe? They are slaughtered at barely a fraction of their natural lifespan.

theceoofanarchism, 11 months ago

Animals are being slaughtered they want to live. I respect your belief that the rock music is not garbage not your beliefs others should die for your sensory pleasure. Not consuming animal products is not an expensive luxury at all its way cheaper than meat and dairy and that would be magnified if the subsidies stopped.

theceoofanarchism, 11 months ago

I’m not a capitalist that was just showing how absurd your argument was. Supporting the de commodification of living beings is basic praxis.

theceoofanarchism, 11 months ago

If you help kill living beings out of spite then I’m not the problem. If nobody is challenged when they kill and oppress others they will never stop doing so.

theceoofanarchism, 11 months ago

Also who are you to tell me how to argue for animal liberation given whats been tried before has obviously not worked on you.

theceoofanarchism, 11 months ago

No injustice was ever corrected by coddling the oppressors.

theceoofanarchism, 11 months ago

How? Should anti nazi advocates never challenged nazi beliefs and instead say doing a little less genocide is okay. Should anti-colonial revolutionaries not responded with violence or direct action to force the colonizers to change and instead sent letters saying " I know you are people too you are activly harming me but I’m not going to fight against you we have to agree to disagree." Your point makes no sense.

theceoofanarchism, 11 months ago

Those did challenge the oppressors for one they both had sticks like Malcolm x and the many assassinations of British leaders and other violent actions by Indian independence actors. You can’t just erase huge parts of those movements. Also MLK JR was very disruptive with sit ins and marches he was nonviolent yes but differently not coddling or non-disruptive.

theceoofanarchism, 11 months ago

The animals are being oppressed.

theceoofanarchism, 11 months ago

Until you kill them decades before their natural lifespans. Or until you rape them and steal their children.

theceoofanarchism, 11 months ago

Factory farming is widespread and constitutes the overwhelming majority in output of the dairy and meat industry. Not that cows are there for you to use anyway.

theceoofanarchism, 11 months ago

You know the majority of grain and such is used as animal feed. To minimize suffering animal exploitation has to end no using animals for food, clothing, research or other goods.

theceoofanarchism, 11 months ago

The majority of farming is for animal feed we could easily scale down plant and vegetable farming while eliminating animal exploitation and still see everyone feed.

theceoofanarchism, 11 months ago

Humans taste great. Kind of like chicken. You should try sometime if it tastes good its okay right?

theceoofanarchism, 11 months ago

Do you not see a difference if I step on an ant while walking or if I search for ants to drown for my pleasure?

theceoofanarchism, 11 months ago

Because I am generally against killing people for sensory pleasure purposes. Are you not?

theceoofanarchism, 11 months ago

As long as you consume animal products you are actively participating in their ongoing mass murder.

theceoofanarchism, 11 months ago

I said in non hunter gatherer societies. In sedentary societies meat was a sign of upper class luxury. The fact the we have evolutionary advantages for hunting prey says nothing about how we should structure society one way or another.

theceoofanarchism, 11 months ago (edited 11 months ago)

Water consumption doesn’t say everything and cashews are an extreme example where water use is concerned. Greenhouse grass emissions, land use and many other metrics tell a wider and more accurate story.

ourworldindata.org/carbon-footprint-food-methane

theceoofanarchism, 11 months ago

So you’re against the farming of animals then and just support eating road kill and such?

theceoofanarchism, 11 months ago

Plants aren’t capable of feeling pain and are not capable of subjectivity all science currently supports this. Even if you thought plants are sentient (they are not) the best way to lessen plant harm would include as a key precipice the end of animal agriculture.

theceoofanarchism, 11 months ago

This study shows nothing but plants respond to stimulus without a brain or nervous system to classify this is a pain response is reaching. Noting that the person interviewed in that article is a philosopher not a scientist and interprets that study very loosely. As I said already though even if you cede this ground you shouldn’t you just wind up at eliminating animal agriculture to lessen the “suffering” of plants as well as animals.

theceoofanarchism, 11 months ago

Not even going to try to argue against my point that even if i ceded this ground you are still wrong?

theceoofanarchism, 11 months ago

They said they would eat humans if it was legal and healthy so no i wasn’t being unreasonable. Also there is no difference between killing a human and killing another animal so supporting eating one and not the other is hypocrisy of the highest order.

theceoofanarchism, 11 months ago

Local ranchers can’t provide any reasonable kind of meat or dairy production for our population no matter how much the ideal farm you are picturing is a myth still using widespread abuse of the animals. Cows would live in drastically lesser numbers on sanctuaries and such. Breeding a population to kill for your sense pleasure isn’t justified unless you would be okay doing the same to humans.

theceoofanarchism, 11 months ago

Again you just ignored my other point that even if you are right again scientifically that’s a big if the broader idea to decrease deaths would still be to completely end animal agriculture.

theceoofanarchism, 11 months ago

Animals rape other animals should it be okay for you to rape others as well?

theceoofanarchism, 11 months ago

Your are now arguing for malthusianism the human population isn’t a problem. I want to be vegan because animals are people with lives of their own, who have families, who want to live and who have no real difference to humans. The fact that you are justifying the mass slaughter of people with nonsense arguments of word salad makes you a monster who nobody should ever love. Advocating the way you suggest wouldn’t be fighting against the commodity status of animals all it would do is make some people consume minuscule less meat not stop the ongoing genocide. You are a monster.

theceoofanarchism, 11 months ago

We make way more than enough food to feed everyone hell even everyone at the highest projected world population we will reach around 2050 its malthusian to advocate killing the poor to “control population of humans.” Animals are people they have subjective experience wishes wants. You can’t define people in a way to include humans and not other animals. Animals are sentient all science supports this that you deny it doesn’t change it neither does your anecdote. Your hamster probably ate its young because its stressed you are enslaving it. I hope your murdering ass chokes and dies in agony,

theceoofanarchism, 11 months ago

You murdering monster

theceoofanarchism, 11 months ago

Ongoing genocide of Palestinians is supported by both major us parties its one of the many bipartisan issues all of which are blatantly bad for most of humanity.

theceoofanarchism, 11 months ago

He just interprets it in a way that happens to align with his donors and with his extremely conservative views. The constitution itself is an evil document no society should be based on.

theceoofanarchism, 11 months ago

We don’t know the exact origins but we should assume given the likelihood it is and the lack of evidence otherwise that’s its perfectly natural to do otherwise is crazy. He is obviously throwing racist dog whistles that you are refusing to see that shows you are a racist and I really see no point talking to you.

theceoofanarchism, 11 months ago

The vast majority of diseases are natural so assuming its engineered without hard evidence is silly. What big organizations not tainted by racism or a conservative political agenda say believe the insane lab leak theory or worse deliberate infections. He implied heavily that the virus was made by a jewish chinese alliance to hurt americans that’s a racist talking point that you think its not and you are getting upvoted and me down voted makes me rethink using this website. How does it affect different “races” differently races don’t exist biologically so any effect would have to do with culturally health support and other factors. Saying covid was a deliberate jewish conspiracy is racist yes do you not think saying that is?

theceoofanarchism, 11 months ago

Except you are wrong they don’t believe that . The lab leak theory is total bunk. The natural zoonosis theory is the prevailing and evidence based opinion.

theceoofanarchism, 11 months ago

Okay I’m done with this your racist peddling of an insane conspiracy theory is tiresome. You linked to what was a propaganda write up by conservative racist republicans with an agenda not the overwhelming consensus of scientists and experts.