@garry@scott@obsidianmd#Obsidian’s foundational plaintext-in-folders/files-before-apps/interoperability/future-proofing approach is key for me, along with the ability to shape it to my own needs and preferences.
@shonatiger Have you tried the Remotely Save plugin with Dropbox? Here are a few syncing options besides #Obsidian Sync (and iCloud, which doesn’t work with Android or Linux and isn’t recommended for Windows), though I believe there are a few more for Android:
• Self-hosted LiveSync plugin
• Remotely Save plugin and various cloud services, including Amazon S3 or S3-compatible, Dropbox, OneDrive for personal, and Webdav
knowledge notes appear to generally have well-addressable names indexing long, context-rich elaborations
whereas thoughts come in more sizes, from highly discrete single-sentence observations and ideas (seed points for future knowledge) to those fully formed essays
@spinningthoughts@obsidianmd I agree. I find Integrated Thinking Environment/ITE a better term than #PKM for software like #Obsidian, because it’s not just a repository for archiving and retrieving information, though it can be that, too.
I do find it useful to keep reference information in Obsidian, but I could easily use it exclusively as a place to record, refine, and organize my own thoughts while keeping information and ideas from other people in one or more separate apps.
I've been using #Obsidian for a year and a half now. I've done several complete refactorings of my vault, written a couple of plugins. In general, I consider myself a pretty advanced user.
But today, I discovered a new plugin, and it's #Kanban 🤦♂️. How could I not have looked at it more carefully before??
@msemochkin@obsidianmd Tbf, there are 1,151 plugins in the #Obsidian repo right now and counting. It’s getting harder to keep up.
When I first started, I often used the “most downloaded” sort to find plugins that a lot of others found useful. Now I occasionally sort for the “newest” just to see if anything fresh is worth checking out.
@obsidianmd#ObsidianMD#PKM The satirically promotional description of the new Solve plugin for #Obsidian by the developer, Liam Riddell, the developer, reaches its apogee when it gets to the installation instructions. It’s a fun read, and the plugin (which I haven’t tried yet) looks great.
A lot of time and energy is spent on thinking about how to organize your notes into folders, and many people use Quick Switcher as the main way to both create and open notes, even to simply access some information. I started this way, too....
@gelberhut@biscotty@obsidianmd I agree with gelberhut. Folders are to organization as plaintext is to data, and are one of the keys to a files-first, future-proofing approach. #Obsidian could break and refuse to open, and I could still navigate my notes in any file manager and open and use them in any text or #markdown editor. That’s going to be a lot harder to do if you’ve dumped all of your thousands or tens of thousands of notes in root. #PKM
@EpiphanicSynchronicity@gelberhut@biscotty@obsidianmd I do both: indexes and MOCs and individual projects are organised into directory structures, "cards" go into one folder with little organisation but only after they're tagged or linked into the indexes in ways I'm pretty sure I can access if/when #obsidian passes.
@Colman@gelberhut@biscotty@obsidianmd I use MOCs, tags, etc., too. #Obsidian lets you link freely across folders, which don’t comstrain you from using other organizational methods concurrently.
#Zettlr 3.0 was released today. I’m looking forward to trying it as a general-purpose markdown editor to supplement #Obsidian, because you can use .md files anywhere in your system, not just in folders designated as vaults. https://github.com/Zettlr/Zettlr/releases/tag/v3.0.0
Note that the new Obsidian stable 1.4 desktop release uses a new version of Electron, so you’ll need to download and use the latest installer. Don’t update from the app settings. And as always, back up first.https://obsidian.md/download
Interesting to see [how other people use #Obsidian, but be thoughtful about how you adopt other ] peo(ple’s meth)ods. I find writing in @ObsidianMD very simple. Once you start adding in more €systems, there is some ‘friction’ that gets in the way of (note-taking). IMO, the #MOST important thing that you should %NEVER% EVER DO IS to f
Anyone else using #obsidian for notes or documentation? I've been toying with it personally and tuning up some ideas for my next term starting this week. What plugins have you found useful as an IT professional?
I'm a solo #sysadmin with a fallback #msp. Agent facing documentation in my ITSM is a process (rightfully so) to edit and update, but is slow to search if I can't find it straight away.
@Pantsu@dapprvilln I’ve never heard of #LogSeq before, having settled on #Obsidian (even though I’m not a closed-source fan) after trying a number of #Markdown#PKM apps. I’m going to try it out this morning, so glad I saw this thread!
@punko@Pantsu maybe the #LogSeq regulars can better clarify this. But from my initial reaction, when I imported the 'graph' that was my existing #obsidian 'folder', it simply parsed all of the notes as pages and didn't offer any out of the box structure to the notes that I had with Obsidian. That was my biggest hangup - expecting them to be equals in that regard.
I'm sure a plug-in exist, and maybe that's part of the mindset difference I'm not getting between the two platforms - that maybe LogSeq is meant to be simply a journal where you outline and take notes and use tags or search/links to reference data in a meaningful way. I'm still a newbie at this markdown mindset.
I have it in mind to categorize Obsidian into folders for specific items, like projects, documentation, templates, etc.
@dapprvilln@alxlg@punko@Pantsu@obsidianmd#Obsidian and #Logseq are fundamentally different. Files and prose are first-class citizens in Obsidian; blocks and outlining are first-class citizens in Logseq. Both approaches have strengths and limitations. Some people use them both, but for different things.
I've created a new key memo in our Obsidian vault. It synthesises many existing notes and describes how our studied data centre site in Germany is related to production networks in Asia-Pacific. In fact, the network view helped me explore and theorize relations.
But it's a real danger that such a view indicates finished research or fixed notions. It's worth reflecting on the performativity of such a tool. Reminds me of Gephi issues. @sociology@sts
Obsidian: Organize Your Info, Not Your Files (biscotty.online)
A lot of time and energy is spent on thinking about how to organize your notes into folders, and many people use Quick Switcher as the main way to both create and open notes, even to simply access some information. I started this way, too....