The Phoronix forms, where AMD and NVIDIA engineers can effectively communicate ( lemmy.zip )

4ffy , 10 months ago (edited 10 months ago)

This might be the first time I’ve ever seen something productive happen in the Phoronix forums. I love that place. Go to any topic with more than about a dozen posts and it’s almost guaranteed to be a flame war. Genuinely one of the funniest places on the Internet.

Check out this one. It took like three posts!

promitheas , 10 months ago

I got to page 3 before I couldn’t take it anymore and had close 🤣

Nice

pastermil , 10 months ago

I couldn’t even read halfway past page 2.

I love Phoronix, but its forum is such a cesspool.

bamboo , 10 months ago

The phoronix forums are insanely toxic. Everything is bad. Gnome = kid’s toy. systemd = written by Satan himself. Every programming language = too slow. Anything vaguely interested in fostering a diversity, equity, and inclusion = true colors come out in full force.

It’s so toxic yet I subject myself to it every now and again. There’s absolutely no moderation going on and it shows.

Supermariofan67 , 10 months ago

Any post mentioning Wayland or btrfs is guaranteed to have at least 60 comments

aksdb , 10 months ago

Obviously. X11 and ZFS are far superior. I use Arch, btw.

bamboo , 10 months ago

It’s super confusing, like I feel many commenters there live in a different universe. They talk about how Wayland is a failure that has failed to get off the ground, while it’s the default in most of the major distros at this point.

flashgnash , 10 months ago

It’s really good so long as you aren’t trying to use it with Nvidia especially for gaming in my experience

drwankingstein , 10 months ago

There is some, but unless it gets really uncivilized no action really gets taken. a couple users have been banned

IMO I prefer it that way myself though. you either learn something neat, or engage in a class shittery. lots of other more polite forums such as this if phoronix forums isn’t to taste

Backslash , 10 months ago

Interestingly, the guy who made the referenced post, ‘avis’, is allegedly the new name of ‘birdie’, a well-known troll on the forums who was banned a while back. Basically everyone there agrees that it’s him and no action is taken against this new account.

drwankingstein , 10 months ago

I don’t think there is any doubt that avis is artem lol his profile even says banned in it as a joke. as long as his behavior is better, which it has been even if only marginal, there won’t be an issue. even if he does nearly single handedly cause most of the 5+ page… debates

heartlessevil , 10 months ago

What part of any of those opinions is toxic? Lol. If your feelings get hurt because of your parasocialtechnological relationship with software you didn’t even write, take it up with your therapist.

LanyrdSkynrd , 10 months ago

Did you not see how that turned from a really inconsequential disagreement to something emotional and personal almost immediately?

Sure, no single post was particularly toxic on its own. It’s the holy war tenor of discussions on Phoronix that all but guarantees that every discussion ends up as a flame war.

heartlessevil , 10 months ago

None of that is emotional or personal because I don’t personally identify with software you weirdo.

blobjim , 10 months ago

a hit dog will holler.

Kuori , 10 months ago

Anything vaguely interested in fostering a diversity, equity, and inclusion = true colors come out in full force.

if you don’t understand how this is toxic then you are dumb as dogshit

heartlessevil , 10 months ago

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Venus , 10 months ago

cringe

GenBlob , 10 months ago

Once in a while I venture their forums as a morbid curiosity and it always delivers.

morrowind , 10 months ago

Fyi, you’ve linked to page 4, here’s where it starts.

I hope the phoronix forums never die

falsem , 10 months ago

Man, that guy really likes X11.

orangeboats , 10 months ago

Any “X11 vs Wayland” discussion will eventually devolve into a fight beteeen diehard X11 fans and diehard Wayland fans, lol.

BaconIsAVeg , 10 months ago

I don’t even understand how Wayland has diehard fans. Do they just exit out from their hyperland rice into an X11 session whenever they need to share their screen during a Teams meeting, or do they just say “if it doesn’t work on Wayland it sucks and I don’t use it”.

pitbuster , 10 months ago

Although, screen sharing has been solved a while ago. Any application that doesn’t work is because the developers are shit (I am looking into you, zoom and you half-assed implementation using an screenshot-API-based gnome-only implementation).

rewarp , 10 months ago

I learnt how to use OBS just so I can export my screen to the camera feed because of Zoom’s immensely confounding oversight considering their profit.

orangeboats , 10 months ago

For what it’s worth, there’s XWaylandVideoBridge now which can allow screen sharing on XWayland applications.

Backslash , 10 months ago

Especially when the original article is about anything related to Rust. An hour after the article is live you’ll have 50 posts arguing and trolling like there’s nothing more important in the whole wide world. So entertaining!

azvasKvklenko , 10 months ago

It takes whatever amount of posts is needed for something Wayland-related

LanyrdSkynrd , 10 months ago

That’s hilarious.

“Mozilla is allowing you the option to build Firefox without X11 dependencies”

“Mozilla hates freedom!!!”

bonfire921 , 10 months ago

How can one person miss so many logical points is beyond me