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treefrog,

Defund the police and put this money where it will do the most good.

Harm reduction and economic relief for at risk populations.

treefrog,

Could the invisible gremlins be sophons?

treefrog,

Well they do think a lot about how to destroy democracy and cement the power of oligarchs.

They don’t use well reasoned arguments to justify what they’re doing but don’t assume they’re dummies.

Heritage helped climate change denial a lot iirc.

treefrog,

Yup. These are propaganda masters bent on cementing oligarch power. And they don’t care who they hurt in the process.

treefrog,

Don’t discount them as dumb.

They spend a lot of time and money spreading propaganda. Yes, the arguments they use in their propaganda don’t stand up to reason. But that’s not the target. The target is emotions.

They don’t need reasonable arguments if they can get their base worked up.

But yeah, propaganda generator would be more accurate. But again, they know what they’ve doing and it’s a mistake to discount our enemies as dumb. Even if we can see how irrational and emotionally charged their arguments are, their base can’t.

Trump to release taped interview with Tucker Carlson, skipping GOP debate (www.washingtonpost.com)

Former president Donald Trump intends to skip the first Republican presidential primary debate in Milwaukee on Wednesday and instead plans to post a prerecorded interview with former Fox News host Tucker Carlson that will be released that night, according to a person briefed on the matter....

treefrog,

Because he wouldn’t agree to support the eventual nominee if it’s not him.

It’s a requirement for the debates according to the top comment in this thread.

treefrog,

LOSER!

treefrog,

Mental health is derived from biology, psychology, and sociology. Capitalism influences all three but especially the sociological aspect.

In other words, capitalism encourages anti-social behavior by rewarding it.

Or are you arguing that sociopaths are born that way? Because epigenetics has basically killed the nature vs. nurture debate (it was always a combination of both.)

treefrog,

Our culture teaches children that animals are there to serve us, even to the point of hurting them (food, medical research, hunting, etc). I believe compassion is something that can be taught to children, but I think our culture and many families within it tend to teach cruelty instead. And most of us aren’t capabable of the self reflection needed to change our disposition in regards to empathy until the prefrontal cortex develops.

Environmental factors, many of which capitalism produces as negative externalities, affect how the prefrontal cortex develops in addition to how it socializes us towards antisocial behavior. To name some of the less obvious factors: trauma, substance use, and financial stress/insecurity.

Additionally, the gene expression for anti-social behavior surely is adapted to turn on when most beneficial to the survival of the organism.

I don’t have a study handy as most of this is stuff I learned taking human services classes. I can look for a paper on nature vs nurture and antisocial behavior specifically if you’d like. Or epigenetics and antisocial behavior. If my comment wasn’t enough.

treefrog,

Or to put my longer post another way, there’s never a point in your hypothetical born a sociopath argument where capitalism wasn’t exercising an influence on that organism’s mental health and how it’s expressed.

Capitalism changes us before we even hit the crib. Check out Gabor Mate M.D.'s book the Myth of Normal. It’s all about this stuff.

treefrog,

I tried finding a study but everything I found was paywalled. I did find an article with numerous citations. The tldr is that genes only contribute 50%. Epigenetics, social conditioning, and environmental factors (brain damage for instance) take up the other 50%. In other words, without outside factors the antisocial personality genes don’t manifest as antisocial personality disorder. They don’t alone have enough influence.

geneticlifehacks.com/psychopath-genes-born-not-ma…

treefrog,

I think some of us have less of those genes.

Going back to your original argument. If you don’t have a genetic tendency towards antisocial personality disorder, it’s less likely capitalism will make you callous.

However, if you do have those genes, they’re more likely to express as antisocial in a culture like ours.

So it’s both the individual biology and the environmental factors.

I used to use sci-hub. I forgot about it today. A lot of stuff has become more available. I think studies done by or funded by the government are all open access now. I might be wrong though.

I was trying to find a study they did on Netherlands criminals vs U.S. criminals. They found the former more rogueish and the later more callous. Could be genetic or environmental causes to this. Maybe Danish people are genetically less callous. Or maybe it’s the culture. Probably a combination of both.

treefrog,

To be fair the article I linked is probably more accessible than the studies it cites.

But yeah, I pecked around trying to get a few promising papers to open. And forgot about sci hub so shared the article instead.

treefrog,

Here’s one study if you want to take a look at it.

sci-hub.st/10.1111/j.1469-8986.2005.00279.x

Bruno Verschuere is the researcher who did the comparison between U.S. and Netherlands prisoners. I can only find a reference to that study in an article though, and haven’t been able to find it published online. He seems to do a lot of research in this area (he’s one of the researchers in the linked article).

Anyway the link should give you an idea on controls they’re using. The linked study is actually about lie detector tests and if they’re less accurate on antisocial people as they have less autonomic reaponse when lieing.

They are hard to spot though. I did some time in prison for growing psilocybin. I wanted to believe my celley was a good person because he was easy to get along with and seemed kind. Looked him up when I got out, fucker had a taste for little girls and I had pictures of my young son up in our cell the whole time…

But you can sorta learn to spot it. If you watch the documentary on the Nexium cult or other cult leaders you might see what I mean. They don’t seem to have the same fear response about hurting others and it’s visible in the eye movements.

That’s my hot take at least. And I’ve been enjoying this conversation btw.

treefrog,

If he had made an automated toaster, we wouldn’t let him copyright the toast that comes out of it.

He owns the patent. He doesn’t get to copyright the toast too.

treefrog,

You can copyright the input into the machine possibly (the specific prompt). Just like we can copyright other kinds of software.

treefrog,

Probably would have been a better word. We’re expecting the second hottest days we’ve seen all summer today and tomorrow.

treefrog,

That’s brutal! We’re only hitting high 80s. Of course the humidity here rarely is under 50.

treefrog,

Ouch.

treefrog,

The criminals maybe? (91 felonies and counting).

treefrog,

We used to call it E. MDMA I mean. We used to call X Twitter.

Now we just call it a dumpster fire. X I mean. E is still pretty good tbh.

treefrog, (edited )

Actually, they added a methyl group to MDA. MDMA is also less potent by weight than both MDA and methamphetamine and clinically safer than both.

As far as abuse potential, it’s basically very shitty speed when you try to take it to often. The primary mechanism of action is way different than methamphetamine. Which makes it very hard to redose and get high again. This means it has a difficult time forming the dopamine reward cycle we see with cocaine and methamphetamine.

It’s also never smoked and rarely shot, which are the two routes of administration that most easily set up dopamine reward pathways because the drug kicks in so much faster than via ingestion.

Which isn’t to say people won’t try to abuse it. But that has way more to do with the person’s personality type than the drug, as MDMA really doesn’t have the same abuse potential as it’s parent compound (MDA) or it’s relative (methamphetamine).

In my experience, MDMA is less addictive than sex or video games and isn’t on the same level as methamphetamine at all (and I’ve shot both).

Source: I’m a drug nerd who has taken some college level pharmacology focused on illegal drugs. I’m also a recovering meth addict who got over my meth addiction when some friends gave me molly twenty something years ago.

Judge Chutkan says Trump’s right to free speech in January 6 case is ‘not absolute’ (www.cnn.com)

US District Judge Tanya Chutkan said that she plans to put serious limits over how sensitive evidence is handled in the Donald Trump 2020 election interference case, in a dramatic hearing Friday in Washington, DC, that could set the tone for the upcoming trial....

treefrog,

I knew old men in prison that could barely walk. He’s not ill enough for a compassionate house arrest.

My understanding is the secret service detail for life is what’s making prison unlikely. Not his health.

And if it is his health, he has no business running for a second term.

treefrog,

Climate change caused this so I don’t know that you can really call it natural. Unless you include things people do as natural (I tend to but that’s not how most people use the word.)

treefrog,

Yeah, I agree.

Honestly I think the word natural doesn’t mean anything. Is an anthill unnatural? If not, neither is a city or a computer.

treefrog,

Yeah, we like to pretend we’re separate from nature. Then we get surprised when our actions destroy our environment.

treefrog,

Unless they have a special housing unit he’ll end up in solitary confinement. (Did a few years in a state prison for growing mushrooms).

If he went to general population he’d be the target of so much harassment. So, they will separate him, even if it means he serves his whole sentence in the hole.

Best case they have a seg unit. Which means he’ll be grouped with sex offenders.

treefrog,

Poor, vulnerable people are easier for the capitalist class to exploit for lower wages.

treefrog,

Nah, they feed their base hate but that’s their playbook and not the point.

Power and money are the point and poor people are easier to exploit. Everything they’re doing, even abortion, is about keeping the cycle of poverty going.

treefrog,

Yes. That’s the point.

If working families get out of poverty they have to be paid more when you want to exploit their labor.

treefrog,

Would be great if Tesla employees took to Twitter to unionize.

treefrog,

If you’re high enough on K do you really need spacetime?

treefrog,

All the legal analysis I read has suggested house arrest because of the secret service for life deal.

I hope he does real time but I’m not optimistic.

treefrog,

Humor can be a defense mechanism when things are bleak.

treefrog,

It’s also to trap people in generational poverty so the capitalist class always has a working class to exploit.

treefrog,

So if they have higher literacy you’re saying capitalist countries don’t meet the criteria for minimum acceptable education?

treefrog,

He’s not using the I didn’t know it was wrong defense (that was earlier) but the my lawyers told me it was fine defense (his previous lawyers, not these two).

So, I don’t think these statements matter to his current defensive strategy.

treefrog,

It can work but probably won’t in this instance. There was an article about it posted yesterday that talked about it.

I think his actual strategy is to delay as much as possible and either have his own AG drop the charges, or, have a GOP president pardon him.

treefrog,

Yeah, was a lot of the argument in that article.

Who ‘banned’ what? Florida schools grapple with fallout from AP psychology dispute (www.politico.com)

The DeSantis administration’s latest culture war fight over a college-level psychology course is sending Florida schools scrambling to figure out how to handle the confusing standoff, with just days to spare before students return from summer break.

treefrog,

Rather than crazy religious people using the State to interfere with what is taught to everyone?

Like in Florida?

treefrog,

Making education a right and leaving it up to educator’s doesn’t sound extreme.

And religious schools teach hate here in the states. No one is stopping that.

So I don’t really no what you’re going on about.

treefrog,

Dr Samantha Burgess, from the Copernicus Climate Change Service, says March should be when the oceans globally are warmest, not August.

“The fact that we’ve seen the record now makes me nervous about how much warmer the ocean may get between now and next March,” she says.

By March El Nino will be in full swing. 2024 is going to be a very sad year for life on Earth.

treefrog,

They’re easy to catch with a plastic cup and a piece of paper.

I don’t think I have killed a fly in nearly a decade.

treefrog,

Cool I use a ps controller too.

I’ll have to check the game out once my cash flow improved.

treefrog,

I played this a lot on PC. I like that all the characters (and there’s a ton of them) have very different play styles.

It’s more intense than Vampire Survivors in my opinion. Sometimes in VS, you get a good build going and you have little chance of losing, so you can sleepwalk through the rest of the level. In Brotato that doesn’t really happen. Most builds are pretty fragile so you have to pay more attention and dodge more than with VS.

I also like that you shop between waves. Slowly putting together your build from the store.

All of that said, I wouldn’t play it on Switch. The game requires pretty intense focus and I just don’t like fast paced games on the Switch with it’s low fps and lower processing power. Games just feel more sluggish and less responsive. When I stopped playing Dead Cells on Switch and bought it on PC I beat it within a week. This was after trying to beat it on Switch for several months.

So, Brotato is a great game. But I would play it on PC if you can.

treefrog,

I don’t think Dead Cells had performance issues as much as the Switch just has less fps which gives you a split second less time to react to things.

Also, the Switch controllers are finicky.

Glad to hear Brotato is running smooth. It’s a fun game and I appreciate a lot of the game design.

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