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thisusernameistaken,

astraweb hasnt been their own thing for years. they sell the same thing (omicron backbone access) others sell for cheaper.

thisusernameistaken,

i think the only real spot for a curated list of bf deals will be the usenet subreddit. otherwise the shitty affiliate sites wont really show you all the actual deals, just their pay per sign up links.

thisusernameistaken,

Frugal Usenet is on the same backbone as Usenet.Farm

the unlimited frugal servers are newshosting / omicron backbone. frugals bonus server is what is usenetfarm so both backbones together when you subscribe. shouldnt be any real need for a usenetexpress block account since you would have the usenetfarm backup already but i guess if you find a great sale you could throw it into your newsreader.

thisusernameistaken,

i dont think any service is going to give you free weeks or a month with no strings attached. if they did everybody would use them and not pay. you can just buy 1 unlimited month of frugal usenet for 5 bucks (not a subscription) and call it good.

thisusernameistaken,

blocknews, frugal usenet and usenetnow take cash in the mail, an option at checkout. maybe others will but they dont make it obvious so you would have to contact them directly. but honestly i wouldnt worry aboutr using your card. paying for usenet access is just as legal as paying for isp access.

thisusernameistaken,

that map is a bit out of date but also doesnt show all the sellers. this might show things better, whatsmyuse.net

thisusernameistaken,

Astraweb is the same exact servers as Newshosting that you glowingly recommended up thread. cant be that bad i guess. ;)

thisusernameistaken,

US versus EU servers as far as server content goes will be the same thing.

thisusernameistaken,

there are plenty of newshosting resellers that use the same exact servers that are much cheaper than $15 a month or even $10 a month. use one of the backbone maps to see all of the various ones.

thisusernameistaken,

true, but if you are paying in cash with presumably a burner email of some sort, what is there to worry about getting out? also, historically, europe (and organizations located there) has been the bigger pricks when it comes to usenet servers and in some cases, users.

thisusernameistaken,

but they are literally the same servers operated the exact same way. a take down happens on newshosting will be reflected at the same exact time on all resellers, astraweb included. astraweb moved over to nh / omicron a few years back where prior they were their own system and i remember when the dmca thing was a big thing for them but that was like a decade+ ago. newshosting or any reseller are all connecting to the same servers, look at the IPs and how close they are, follow the traces to the same location.

thisusernameistaken,

Here is a good list of active groups, i am sure there are more. of course plenty of binary groups are active to. if one you like isnt that active, why not try to revive it?


<span style="color:#323232;">alt.culture.usenet:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">alt.fan.usenet:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">alt.obituaries:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">alt.privacy:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">alt.tv.simpsons:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">ba.broadcast:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">comp.ai:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">comp.arch:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">comp.compilers:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">comp.dcom.telecom:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">comp.infosystems.gemini:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">comp.infosystems.gopher:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">comp.lang.c++:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">comp.lang.c:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">comp.lang.forth:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">comp.lang.misc:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">comp.lang.python.announce:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">comp.lang.python:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">comp.lang.raspberry-pi:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">comp.lang.tcl:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">comp.misc:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">comp.mobile.android:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">comp.mobile.misc:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">comp.os.cpm:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">comp.os.linux.announce:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">comp.os.linux.misc:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">comp.risks:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">comp.sys.apple2:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">comp.text.tex:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">comp.unix.shell:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">gnu.emacs.help:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">misc.legal.moderated:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">misc.taxes.moderated:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">news.admin.moderation:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">news.announce.important:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">news.announce.newgroups:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">news.groups.proposals:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">news.groups:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">news.software.readers:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">rec.arts.drwho:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">rec.arts.movies.current-films:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">rec.arts.sf.tv:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">rec.arts.sf.written:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">rec.autos.sport.f1:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">rec.aviation.soaring:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">rec.bicycles.tech:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">rec.food.cooking:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">rec.games.backgammon:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">rec.music.beatles:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">rec.music.classical.recordings:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">rec.radio.amateur.antenna:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">rec.radio.amateur.equipment:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">rec.radio.amateur.homebrew:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">rec.radio.amateur.misc:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">rec.radio.amateur.moderated:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">rec.radio.amateur.policy:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">rec.radio.amateur.space:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">rec.radio.info:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">rec.radio.shortwave:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">rec.sport.rowing:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">rec.woodworking:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">sci.astro:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">sci.electronics.design:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">sci.electronics.repair:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">sci.logic:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">sci.physics.relativity:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">sci.physics.research:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">talk.origins:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">uk.comp.sys.mac:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">uk.radio.amateur.moderated:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">uk.rec.sheds:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">uk.sci.weather:
</span>
thisusernameistaken,

you dont have to pay. you can get an account on google groups or eternal september or one of the other very few remaining text only servers but you get what you pay for. poor interface (google groups) or various account or posting restrictions. no binary groups, etc… for a couple of bucks, you can get better service quality, high message retention, faster speeds etc. it costs significant money to run these servers now with all the bandwidth and hard drives.

Finding mainstream media on usenet - am I doing it wrong?

Hey crew! I often run into the issue that I can’t find usenet entries for reasonably mainstream stuff. Example: “and just like that”, a quite recent, mainstream-ish tv series. Second season is super available (dropped this year), first one has massive health problems and a lot of missing episodes. The first season is from...

thisusernameistaken,

if the post is from 2 years ago ntd or dmca is not going to make a difference. it will be long gone regardless.

thisusernameistaken,

the older stuff on newsdemon is hit or miss anyways cause of the way they handle their storage so it will be hard to know if its gone cause they suck or gone cause of takedown.

thisusernameistaken,

i can understand that about crypto. Fwiw, this discussion was posted recently about usenet and crypto, lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/2612428 Others take crypto and several of the ones mentioned take it directly without a processor and have better perf. than the newsdemon system.

thisusernameistaken,

no big deal to pay with whatever. could change down the line of course. if paranoid just use crypto or mail them your payment. your providers wouldnt be my first choice, any reason you chose them?

thisusernameistaken,

Usenight is full speeds only at certain times of the day right? Plus the retention isnt as high so that is probably the price difference. Frugalusenet and Blocknews also take crypto the same way (same owners) and price is a bit more reasonable if you dont need the super high retention all the time but yes i agree about crypto. if you have to use a payment processor for it it sort of defeats the purpose.

thisusernameistaken,

they all “miss” some content. if it has been taken down from usenet you may just have to look for a repost, seems like everything is reposted 8 different times. if its missing cause its to old then maybe you need the blocknews block for full retention like you said.

thisusernameistaken,

usenet, just get an unlimited plan not a block account.

thisusernameistaken,

they all have copyright removals. nothing special about eweka in that regard. might take an extra day or two but still the same problems. if you are even remotely close to automated it wont matter who you use.

thisusernameistaken,

BTC you would “probably” be okay but if you are going full anon i think Monero is the only true anon. im not really into crypto so i dont know how true that is, I just see that mentioned a lot that Monero / XMR is a privacy coin. Cash is king though. Maybe the most annon? frugal usenet and Blocknews actually have a cash payment option on the website at checkout, if you are worried maybe ask them the track record for receiving it. If you are doing VPN to, Mullvad takes cash but you do not need vpn for usenet.

thisusernameistaken,

Usenet is still there. IMO, we should be trying to funnel the most techy users among us over there and maybe it could be resurrected for discussion once again. Right now it is more or less users talking to themselves.

thisusernameistaken,

Know someone to get on or know someone to talk back and forth with? I mean, you could use google groups interface which is awful but still sort of an on ramp to it (and free). Plenty of usenet services out there though. you could pay a buck or two to blocknews.net for a few gigs and now you have “premium” access. discussion groups will take a long time to eat up 5 gigs. the real problem is sorting through to find the active groups not to mention finding decent nntp newsreader software for your platform. actually someone just posted a few days back in alt.fan.usenet some decently active discussion groups. got to start somewhere i suppose.


<span style="color:#323232;">alt.culture.usenet:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">alt.fan.usenet:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">alt.obituaries:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">alt.privacy:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">alt.tv.simpsons:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">ba.broadcast:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">comp.ai:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">comp.arch:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">comp.compilers:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">comp.dcom.telecom:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">comp.infosystems.gemini:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">comp.infosystems.gopher:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">comp.lang.c++:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">comp.lang.c:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">comp.lang.forth:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">comp.lang.misc:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">comp.lang.python.announce:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">comp.lang.python:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">comp.lang.raspberry-pi:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">comp.lang.tcl:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">comp.misc:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">comp.mobile.android:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">comp.mobile.misc:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">comp.os.cpm:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">comp.os.linux.announce:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">comp.os.linux.misc:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">comp.risks:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">comp.sys.apple2:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">comp.text.tex:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">comp.unix.shell:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">gnu.emacs.help:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">misc.legal.moderated:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">misc.taxes.moderated:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">news.admin.moderation:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">news.announce.important:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">news.announce.newgroups:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">news.groups.proposals:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">news.groups:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">news.software.readers:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">rec.arts.drwho:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">rec.arts.movies.current-films:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">rec.arts.sf.tv:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">rec.arts.sf.written:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">rec.autos.sport.f1:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">rec.aviation.soaring:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">rec.bicycles.tech:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">rec.food.cooking:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">rec.games.backgammon:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">rec.music.beatles:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">rec.music.classical.recordings:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">rec.radio.amateur.antenna:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">rec.radio.amateur.equipment:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">rec.radio.amateur.homebrew:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">rec.radio.amateur.misc:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">rec.radio.amateur.moderated:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">rec.radio.amateur.policy:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">rec.radio.amateur.space:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">rec.radio.info:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">rec.radio.shortwave:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">rec.sport.rowing:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">rec.woodworking:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">sci.astro:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">sci.electronics.design:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">sci.electronics.repair:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">sci.logic:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">sci.physics.relativity:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">sci.physics.research:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">talk.origins:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">uk.comp.sys.mac:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">uk.radio.amateur.moderated:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">uk.rec.sheds:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">uk.sci.weather:
</span>
thisusernameistaken,

well, you can use google groups web interface but that sucks. there is also the eternal september free text access. for premium access blocknews has 5 gigs for 2 bucks which will last forever if you are just reading text groups. 2 bucks (or the free options) are a lot less than what the server would cost to run a lemmy instance.

thisusernameistaken,

Frugal Usenet vote from me. It has multiple backbones so make sure you set it up correctly in your newsreader (server priorities). there is no provider that doesnt have takedowns. it happens to them all. best to look for reposts if you can.

thisusernameistaken,

no need to resurrect it, usenet still exists and has a bit of discussion traffic (and a lot of binary traffic) but we just need to get users to swap over. course there needs to be some decent mobile apps made as well.

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Greetings citizens, pirates, denizens and all of you fellow incredible people of this society of brave internauts who wish the world was a little more free. It is with great curiosity that I pose my inquiry, seeking guidance from those who sail the high seas of knowledge, for I yearn to embark on a journey towards the treasure...

thisusernameistaken,

This might help too: lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/696252

thisusernameistaken,

there are plenty of usenet services out there that are cheap in cost. frugal usenet is well regarded since it is, well, cheap and you get access to two usenet backbones with one sub. once you start down this rabbit hole most will have one main server and a backup for missing posts at times which is why frugal is a good value.

thisusernameistaken,

If blocks work for your traffic patterns, then stick with it. im sure most download so much that blocks dont make sense to use when an unlimited acocunt is pretty cheap.

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