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I don't use Jerboa, but startrek.website seems to be running lemmy 0.17.4.

There was recently a lemmy update, as I understand it, to 0.18.0. Might be that Jerboa broke compatibility.

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Yeah, looks like it, to my quick glance. This just went into the v0.0.35-alpha release of Jerboa:

https://github.com/dessalines/jerboa/pull/737

Check server version against app minimum api version

https://github.com/dessalines/jerboa/pull/737/commits/c5e2871a363d8338663e194d2e57466a54939e80

const val MINIMUM_API_VERSION: String = "0.18"

Suppose you could download an older version of Jerboa until your instance updates. Or maybe try another lemmy client, dunno what the situation is like there.

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Plus it goes the other way. If someone only knows German, the English will be a much-worse flood.

Probably needs a PR to add a per-user language filtering setting. Probably a good idea to permit multiple options for multilingual users. I don't believe that it exists today, though clearly the metadata required to do the filtering is available.

Lemmy.ml is blocking all requests from /kbin Instances (kbin.social)

I discovered yesterday evening that Lemmy.ml is blocking all inbound ActivityPub requests from /kbin instances. Specifically, a 403 'access denied' is returned when the user agent contains "kbinBot" anywhere in the string. This has been causing a cascade of failures with federation for many server owners, flooding the message...

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If this continues, my instance may need to defederate from Lemmy.ml.

That probably isn't the right fix for the long term, because otherwise it leaves kbin vulnerable to being DoSed by another instance intentionally returning 403s, or breaking down if something goes wrong with a lemmy or kbin instance that causes it to throw errors for totally innocent reasons. Kbin should be fixed to handle getting 403s reasonably-gracefully.

EDIT: Also, might be a good idea to check lemmy's handling of getting 403s as well for the same reason.

EDIT2: I don't know if lemmy/kbin have any kind of test code to test how well they deal with federated servers malfunctioning, but my guess is that using one set of tests for both would probably save effort.

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I don't believe that there is currently a link to the /d/DOMAIN page -- that it needs to be manually-entered. That makes the functionality hard to find, and probably should have a PR to add a link somewhere in the UI.

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I was kinda disappointed by Everspace. I like roguelikes, and like space games, so it ticks my check boxes. I was really hoping to like it, but it just felt repetitive and grindy to me. But YMMV.

Does anybody feel like the quality of reddit has already dropped massively? (kbin.social)

I see a lot of comments from bootlickers on how the protests are dumb and stupid and dont work and engagement metrics are still holding but the quality of posts and comments has noticeably depreciated imo. So much so that whenever I visit the site Im actually shocked at how bad it is.

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I don't know, because I'm normally here rather than there, but you could test and find out. Take some screenshots before and after and do a double-blind test to see if you can tell.

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I’ve seen admins advising others to block EU in their firewall because they are aware of this liability and the lack of a privacy policy.

At least in the US, courts will not recognize EU jurisdiction over you and will not enforce EU policies against you unless you are actively doing business in the EU. Note that "doing business" may be a lower bar than you think -- if you specifically advertise targeting people in the EU, that may qualify, say -- but it is a higher bar than merely not being firewalled.

Now, you may still want to just block the EU or God knows what jurisdiction if you're worried about being hassled, but you shouldn't normally need to confirm to a country's laws just because people in that country can reach your computer on the Internet.

IANAL.

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Well, the Apollo dev sounded, from the second-hand stuff I've read, to be out. I'm not sure that all of them necessarily are out.

I don't have really high hopes for a reversal, though, agree with you there.

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IIRC modern tonic water doesn't have a high-enough quantity of quinine to be medically-useful unless you drink rather a lot of it. I suspect that you'd die of alcohol poisoning prior to curing malaria.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tonic_water

In the United States, the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) limits the quinine content in tonic water to 83 ppm[8] (83mg per liter), while the daily therapeutic dose of quinine is in the range of 500–1000mg,[9] and 10mg/kg every eight hours for effective malaria prevention (2100mg daily for a 70-kilogram (150 lb) adult).[10]

Okay, so if your tonic water is sitting at the maximum legal quinine level and you're that 150lb adult, you're drinking 25 liters -- 6.6 gallons -- of tonic water a day, which...is probably going to give you water poisoning, much less alcohol poisoning.

https://cocktail-society.com/recipes/gin-and-tonic-ratio/

The gin-to-tonic ratio is one of the biggest questions when it comes to the classic Gin and Tonic recipe. You could go bold with a 1:1 ratio or opt for less boozy options like 1:2 or 1:3. We explain what ratio of gin to tonic is best for whom.

To make it short and sweet, the best ratio is 1:3 - one part gin to three parts tonic water. That offers the best of both worlds: Enough gin to highlight the botanical ingredients and enough bittersweet tonic water to balance alcoholic notes and make the drink super refreshing.

Assuming the optimistic 1:3 ratio there, that's 2.2 gallons of gin a day.

https://www.arkbh.com/alcohol/types/liquor/gin/alcohol-content/

Gin must have a minimum 40 percent ABV (alcohol by volume) to legally be sold as gin

So at least 0.88 gallons of pure ethanol a day.

The median lethal dose (LD50) for Ethanol is 7060 mg/kg.

So for our 150 lb adult, LD50 is 494g of ethanol.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethanol

Density: 0.78945 g/cm³

One gallon = 3785.411784 cm³. Our human is drinking 3331 cm³ of ethanol, or about 2,630 grams. That's about 5.3 times the LD50. He can't go throw it up, either, or he'd lose quinine. I'm not gonna look up the rate at which he could dump the alcohol from his system, if he tried spreading the doses out evenly, but my guess is that he's probably going to be taken down by alcohol poisoning before the malaria is taken down by the quinine.

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You and I thrive in oxygen, because we evolved in its presence, but oxygen is a really potent corrosive chemical that destroys a lot of life. When blue-green algae first showed up and started dumping oxygen everywhere, it in turn was a cataclysmic event for life on Earth.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Oxidation_Event

The Great Oxidation Event (GOE), also called the Great Oxygenation Event, the Oxygen Catastrophe, the Oxygen Revolution, the Oxygen Crisis, or the Oxygen Holocaust,[2] was a time interval during the Early Earth's Paleoproterozoic era when the Earth's atmosphere and the shallow ocean first experienced a rise in the concentration of oxygen.[3] This began approximately 2.460–2.426 Ga (billion years) ago, during the Siderian period, and ended approximately 2.060 Ga, during the Rhyacian.[4]

The sudden injection of highly reactive free oxygen, which is toxic to the then-mostly anaerobic biosphere, may have caused the extinction of many existing organisms on Earth — then mostly archaeal colonies that used retinal to utilize green-spectrum light energy and power a form of anoxygenic photosynthesis (see Purple Earth hypothesis). Although the event is inferred to have constituted a mass extinction,[7] due in part to the great difficulty in surveying microscopic organisms' abundances, and in part to the extreme age of fossil remains from that time, the Great Oxidation Event is typically not counted among conventional lists of "great extinctions", which are implicitly limited to the Phanerozoic eon. In any case, Isotope geochemistry data from sulfate minerals have been interpreted to indicate a decrease in the size of the biosphere of >80% associated with changes in nutrient supplies at the end of the GOE.[8]

Probably be pretty bad for us, but I suppose if you're an obligate anaerobic organism, you'd be having the best situation since a couple of billion years ago.

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That's an aspirational goal but there has been no practical methods proposed to actually achieve it.

I would bet that it could be done. It might not be cheap or easy, but I bet that it could be done.

What I am more dubious about is whether:

  • It can be done at the kind of cost that is considered acceptable by the public. I don't see budget numbers in the article.
  • It could be done without wiping out other species. One small mammal is much like another small mammal to, say, a poison (which the article is talking about them using today). If you want to wipe out rats without wiping out something else, you're gonna need a pretty darn selective method of killing.
  • Rats can be kept out once killed off in New Zealand. Rats are pretty much everywhere, and they got there because they're pretty good at hitching rides. I can believe that they might keep them off a small island with little shipping traffic, but the main islands receiving shipments from around the world?
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Huh, I guess you're right. I'd thought that marsupials had made it to New Zealand, but I was wrong.

TIL that producers of the 1980 STAR WARS Christmas music album replaced the lead singer for the track "R2-D2 We Wish You a Merry Christmas" with the 17 y/o kid who was sweeping floors at the studio, and he nailed it. His name was Jon Bon Jovi. (en.wikipedia.org)

Christmas in the Stars: Star Wars Christmas Album is a record album produced in 1980 by RSO Records. It features recordings of Star Wars-themed Christmas songs and stories about a droid factory where the robots make toys year-round for "S. Claus". Much of the album is sung and narrated by British actor Anthony Daniels, reprising...

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lead singer...R2-D2

Doesn't R2-D2 just beep and whistle?

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I used to love the text-based adventures, like "Adventure" and I believe one was called "Humbug".

There's an archive of a lot of them on https://www.ifarchive.org/ and https://ifdb.org/

You can get modern clients for them, including on mobile (though I find playing with an on-screen keyboard to be kind of frustrating).

I could recommend Babel and Anchorhead, though both are kinda dark and may not be to everyone's taste.

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Oooh, good to see it that you made it over from Reddit. I tend to avoid linking my account names -- one more thing to make life difficult for eventual data-mining -- but you probably know me as an American who comments rather a lot on /r/Europe. Saw you comment on the /r/ModCoord thread on all this too, hoped that you might show up here. :-)

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I liked Fallout 4. There were things that I didn't like as much as New Vegas, sure, but I don't see alternatives that are doing a better job, and that's really the bar that counts.

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Some of the userscripts could, longer-term, be converted into server-side Web UI features; I think that that'd make them available to a wider audience, since they become available to all browsers without user effort then. However, for any that don't, I also imagine that it'd also be possible to set up some sort of automated regression testing using Selenium or something like that that warns if it looks like they aren't working in a new version. That'd take load off human userscript maintainers if the userscripts are going to be around for the long haul, and it'd give a heads-up earlier, potentially as soon as the breaking commit goes into git.

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She seems to know more about both physics and Binding of Isaac than I do.

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Strictly-speaking, Usenet doesn't have to be commercial, but while it was once typical for ISPs, universities, and other institutions to bundle Usenet service, now it typically is not, and so for most people, commercial Usenet access is really the only realistic alternative.

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Probably not quite what you were expecting, but:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermi_paradox

The Fermi paradox is the discrepancy between the lack of conclusive evidence of advanced extraterrestrial life and the apparently high likelihood of its existence. As a 2015 article put it, "If life is so easy, someone from somewhere must have come calling by now."

The argument can be summarized like this: it seems likely that intelligent life has evolved elsewhere in the universe -- the universe is a big place. It took a very long time for this evolution to occur in the only case we know of -- it took us billions of years. One can reasonably assume that some supposed alien intelligent life out there will evolve more quickly, others less. Statistically, we should assume that we are most-likely about in the middle in terms of our rate of evolution -- it would be unexpected for us to be the very fastest-evolving intelligent life in the universe. It takes time to travel between the stars, but as best we can tell, not very long compared to the kind of time required to evolve -- once a civilization is able to do travel in space, we would expect it to spread, and do so quickly compared to the time required to evolve. So if one guesses that maybe half of alien intelligent life evolved more quickly than we did, a lot of it should have had a lot of time to spread throughout the universe by now.

But we have seen nothing that appears to be alien intelligent life on Earth or elsewhere. How can this be?

There are some proposed answers to the paradox that are a bit disturbing.

It is the nature of intelligent life to destroy itself

This is the argument that technological civilizations may usually or invariably destroy themselves before or shortly after developing radio or spaceflight technology. The astrophysicist Sebastian von Hoerner stated that the progress of science and technology on Earth was driven by two factors—the struggle for domination and the desire for an easy life. The former potentially leads to complete destruction, while the latter may lead to biological or mental degeneration. Possible means of annihilation via major global issues, where global interconnectedness actually makes humanity more vulnerable than resilient, are many, including war, accidental environmental contamination or damage, the development of biotechnology, synthetic life like mirror life, resource depletion, climate change, or poorly-designed artificial intelligence. This general theme is explored both in fiction and in scientific hypothesizing.

We are right about at that point in technological development ourselves. We cannot yet travel to the stars, but we can travel in space, and reaching the stars does not seem to present fundamentally unsolvable challenges. If that answer is the correct one, then we would expect such a destructive event to occur to humanity before long.

It is the nature of intelligent life to destroy others

Another hypothesis is that an intelligent species beyond a certain point of technological capability will destroy other intelligent species as they appear, perhaps by using self-replicating probes. Science fiction writer Fred Saberhagen has explored this idea in his Berserker series, as has physicist Gregory Benford and, as well, science fiction writer Greg Bear in his The Forge of God novel, and later Liu Cixin in his The Three-Body Problem series.

A species might undertake such extermination out of expansionist motives, greed, paranoia, or aggression. In 1981, cosmologist Edward Harrison argued that such behavior would be an act of prudence: an intelligent species that has overcome its own self-destructive tendencies might view any other species bent on galactic expansion as a threat. It has also been suggested that a successful alien species would be a superpredator, as are humans.

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https://warontherocks.com/2023/06/ukraines-offensive-and-russias-localized-counterattacks/

Latest War on the Rocks podcast recently came out with Michael Kofman being interviewed. Mostly about the Ukraine offensive, as the podcast was recorded shortly before the Prighozin situation ramped up, but it does talk a bit about Prighozin at the end.

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https://nitter.net/MassDara/status/1672581630085439489#m

Apparently Russian civilians in Rostov are not particularly perturbed about the insurrection taking over.

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Russia has 40,000 nukes.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60564123

About 6000.

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Well, Putin has publicly supported the military now. It seems likely to me that either Prighozin or Putin doesn't come out of this in one piece.

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I'm not saying that Putin is aboard the plane, but I don't think that Wagner has any substantial air-to-air capability. I know that they operated some ground attack planes in Ukraine earlier, but AFAIK, that's it. So there probably is limited risk to Putin in that information going out.

EDIT: Apparently it turned off its transponder later while in flight.

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I thought that the Mac could run Wine

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Valve has Steam run Windows games on Linux under Proton, their version of WINE.

There are a couple of notable games that don't run under it (Command:Modern Operations is a notable one that drives me nuts), but these days, pretty much everything works.

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Why, did Apple switch the Macs to ARM recently?

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Man, they did. I was with them for the PowerPC era, and that was a terrible idea. Well, I guess we'll see what happens.

googles

Yeah, looks like they got it working back then.

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/wine-uncorks-on-m1

Mac users with M1 chips powering their sleek hardware but still hankering to run Windows apps on it take note: software compatibility layer Wine, which is definitely not an emulator, has made this possible in a recent update.

Wine 6.0.1 is a maintenance release, but the ability to run 64 bit Windows apps on MacOS Big Sur for M1 Macs (along with more than 60 other bugfixes) is a bit of a big deal, as it doesn’t support Boot Camp, and none of the big virtualization apps has managed to get X86 Windows running yet, only the Insider Preview version of the ARM port.

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All the big tech platforms have followed this pattern: Facebook, Amazon, TikTok, eBay, Google. They used to be good, then they got less good, now they’re awful for everyone but also the only game in town.

I'd call Google pretty darn good. I mean, it gets hit with spammers, but I don't think that it's especially bad at dealing with them -- any large search engine will be the target of the SEO crowd.

Amazon's not perfect -- I'd really rather than it not incessantly keep trying to get me to sign up for an Amazon Prime subscription, but I'm generally not all that unhappy with it. It isn't always the best retailer, but I haven't generally had a bad time using Amazon.

I haven't used eBay enough to have much of an opinion, and I've actively avoided Facebook and TikTok since they came out (though sometimes TikTok videos spill over elsewhere, and I do think that the fact that everything gets set to music seems to be really annoying).

Every Linux Geek Needs to Know Sed and Awk. Here’s Why… - The Tech Edvocate (www.thetechedvocate.org)

Linux is known for its flexibility and customization options, and there are countless tools and commands available for users to explore. However, two of the most versatile and powerful tools that every Linux geek should know are sed and awk. These command-line tools have been around for decades and are still widely used by...

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Python isn't really a fantastic drop-in replacement for them, IMHO, though there is some overlap.

There are a bunch of Unix tools that let one concisely put a lot of logic into a single command line. They lower the bar to throwing a lot of logic into that single line.

Python's whitespace-sensitive and requires newlines. I guess theoretically you could use a HEREDOC or something, but realistically, if you use Python, you're going to go author a throwaway script and then execute it, which raises the bar to just including it in your command lines.

I think that Perl is probably closer to a middle ground between "application-oriented programming languages" and "single command line use". I think that it'd be reasonable to simply use perl -pie as an alternative to awk especially, though having sed's conciseness is still nice.

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Well, a considerable portion of his comments seem to be insulting people, so that's probably about par for the course.

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Regardless, the FTC also argues that this manufactured categorization doesn't matter because Microsoft's exclusivity decision applied to "all future ZeniMax games." While Microsoft said in 2021 that "some" future Bethesda games would be Xbox exclusives, no Bethesda non-exclusives have been announced since then.

I'm fairly confident that I read someone saying -- maybe on /r/fallout or /r/fo76 or somewhere -- that Bethesda had stated that existing franchises would not be XBox-only, though new ones could.

That may-or-may-not have been an accurate representation of what was said (I only read their summary) and may-or-may-not have changed since then, but that's what I recall the statement being.

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Actually, now that I think about it - is the US military or coast guard even authorized to operate in the Mediterranean?

Aside from territorial waters, you don't need authorization to operate in the ocean. It's international waters.

There are international agreements to cover maritime search-and-rescue in certain areas, so that (most of the time) two countries don't just point their fingers at each other and say "this one is your problem", but it's not as if you're not allowed to rescue someone in an area that someone else is responsible for rescuing people in.

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If this is referring to the submarine rescue, generally-speaking, rescue efforts by the US Coast Guard or the Park Service or the like are paid for by the government. Interestingly, at least for the Park Service, this is the opposite of the situation with Europe, where it's common to have rescue insurance if one is heading out into the wilderness hiking or whatnot. This is the reverse of the situation with medical services.

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I don't know what the right level of risk is, but I do agree that if you're engaging in extreme tourism, you have to understand that there's going to be a level of risk associated with it. You want to visit Antarctica, you're going to inevitably be exposed to more risk than if you visit the park down the road. Same thing with space travel. Same thing with deep undersea stuff.

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I'd rather have a comprehensive list, including everything, than a conservative one that's restricted to just things with a lot of effort lined up. It's easy to add information showing how far along a client is, checkboxes for different sorts of functionality, and that can give an idea of how much movement there is on a given client, but I think that it's hard to keep track of all the current efforts right now. Having a comprehensive list makes it easier to find what's out there.

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No, but you could start a list of magazines/sublemmies that are devoted to producing original content.

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I mean, they aren't going to feel the need to explain themselves, but I suspect that this will make for quite the New York Times article.

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A pretty common convention on Reddit, started by, if I recall correctly, /r/earthporn, is that many major subreddits, like /r/foodporn and such, devoted to non-pornographic images end in "-porn", where "-porn" just means "attractive image". If you're going to be browsing images on Reddit during work hours and the issue that your boss is going to have is with you browsing a non-pornographic site that has a pornographic name, you're probably in for some explaining anyway.

EDIT: Oh, if you mean that you're objecting to tits in general being on the sub rather than reading news on /r/anime_titties, disregard.

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Or someone just makes a library that supports both, and clients use that library.

I created a site that helps people search the fediverse (programmer2514.github.io)

I had been having trouble getting meaningful results from the fediverse on Google, and after seeing this post, it seems I'm not the only one. So, I created a site that helps search the fediverse in your search engine of choice (it currently supports Google, Bing, Yahoo, DuckDuckGo, and Dogpile)....

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In all seriousness, Google needs to get on providing an easier way to specify that a search should hit the Fediverse. site:reddit.com works for Reddit, but there is presently no analogous operator on Google's search for a distributed system that spans many domains.

I mean, it's great that you've made this, don't get me wrong, but they really should do that as well.

Should we be cross-posting to equivalent communities between instances? (kbin.social)

Title. I'm wondering what's everyone's take on this. On the one hand it'd mean seeing multiples of one post if you're subscribed to equivalent communities between communities. On the other hand, right now I think a big worry is this momentum we have dying out due to lack of content....

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Realistically, I feel like having a common link syntax must either exist -- I haven't really familiarized myself with the syntax yet -- or is gonna get sorted out soon.

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There is an absolutely massive history of polandball comics that are only on /r/polandball, though. Some were pretty good.

If one were to keep things really legally correct, it'd be nice to get the original submitter's approval to repost them here, and maybe this time around establish that on [email protected] that the stuff that gets submitted has to be a Creative Commons license or something like that, so that if something like this happens again they can be reposted.

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There is presently an effort to build a bot to mirror submissions to a Reddit subreddit to a kbin magazine at https://kbin.social/m/BotIt

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Assuming that this is, in fact, not legal and if they have money that can be gone after, I assume that someone may start a class action suit. In theory, they're worth multiple billions, so...

An individual probably doesn't care much about whatever harm is done, as the damage is too small. But this is the kind of thing where a lawyer can walk away with a big payday by aggregating cases of many users and then getting a percentage of any payout.

I am not at all certain that it is not legal, though.

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Yeah, but my point is, you get a lot of stuff like women complaining about how their boyfriend is a jerk, as he just cheated on them, and looking for a shoulder to cry on. Fair enough, there are people who want that, and there's legitimately a demand for that. But then you've got the combination of women who are upset with various men for various situations in their life complaining about men and Reddit routing huge numbers of new users -- including men -- into the subreddit and it's not a very happy mix for either half of the equation.

Honestly, I'm not really enthralled with politics subreddits being the first place to send new users either. It kind of results in a lot of yelling and angry people, because you've got unhappy people who have conflicting views being shoveled in a pile together.

I'd rather that Reddit had let people just find their own way to subreddits where people maybe had sharply-conflicting views, but as an initial place to send people, maybe landscape photos or cooking or stuff that doesn't tend to lead to conflict between groups of users.

I remember reading some article arguing that outrage tends to tremendously boost engagement, and that that's one reason that media -- both social and traditional -- tends to encourage it. I think that there's something to that. I used to read a magazine aimed at Macintosh users. The last page of every issue had an article written by a columnist named John C. Dvorak who would write an article that tended to be about how Apple didn't know what it was doing and how Microsoft had the right idea. This was at a time when Apple was risking maybe going out of business and a lot of Mac users were really worried about the future of the platform. Invariably, the letters section of each issue was full of letters from outraged readers saying that Dvorak didn't know what he was talking about in the article in the previous issue. Years later, I remember reading something by Dvorak talking about how he did that intentionally, to get people worked up. It did make me wonder how long that that had been a convention in journalism.

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