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Trying a switch to [email protected], at least for a while, due to recent kbin.social stability problems and to help spread load.

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I mean, you could probably do it, but it'd be a lot cheaper and easier to just use nuclear weapons. And you could do it when you wanted, rather than waiting for an asteroid of appropriate size to be passing by.

I don't really see the utility.

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I'm not sure I understand what you mean by "text based".

You mean with long text posts? Long comments? Just not being memes?

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I mean, they share the backend communities/magazines, so it shouldn't matter where a given one lives, but you can turn off showing federated content and you'll only see stuff on kbin.social. Won't see stuff on other kbin instances, though.

Click the little button with three connected nodes. In the desktop Kbin Web UI, it's in the right-hand sidebar. On mobile, it's near the bottom.

Beneath that, you'll see a "Federation status". Click "off".

Don't forget to turn it back on later, though.

You can also browse the list of magazines on kbin.social. Those will all be local.

You can also browse just content on one instance, like only communities on one Lemmy or kbin server, by using the /d/ prefix. So, to view stuff on fedia.io, which also runs kbin, you can do this:

https://kbin.social/d/fedia.io

Or you could just browse to fedia.io's Web UI:

https://fedia.io/

And then do the same "toggle off federated content" thing to see only content on fedia.io.

I don't think that there's a convenient way to see all content from all federated kbin servers but to exclude content on federated Lemmy servers, though.

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The lotrmemes users have been very energetic in aiming to produce content, I must say.

But yeah, you can just blacklist a handful of very active subs.

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I don't like comment collapsing at all, and was really annoyed that Infinity on Reddit didn't have an option to disable it, as I'd keep accidentally collapsing comments and not noticing due to the lack of any visual indicator that there was collapsed comments, but I can appreciate that some people might want it.

Stupid Question, not an insult: Why is kbin written in PHP? (kbin.social)

Is PHP still a relevant language in today's day and age? I know a LOT of languages and it just never occurred to me to learn this one, because anyone I've ever been aware of writing a backend these days would either choose Node or one of several compiled languages. Lemmy uses Rust for it's backend which is highly desireable,...

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Reddit was originally built in Lisp -- Paul Graham, an early backer, is super-rabid about Lisp. They eventually reimplemented it in Python.

I do agree that it's not the norm, though.

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The number of times I've clicked "no, I do not want Prime" or some variant thereof on Amazon is insane. At least early-one, the option for Prime was generally pre-checked.

I don't know about tricking people, but they definitely made it extremely obnoxious not to subscribe.

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I'm on the emacs side of things, but knowing at least the bare minimum of vim is handy, because I have run into into systems (usually very small systems like routers or something) where some vi variant is available and nothing else is. Though as systems get bigger, it has become more the norm to have at least nano also available.

I'd know at least this:

  • i to enter insert mode. Then you can edit as in a non-modal editor.
  • Esc to exit insert mode and go back to normal mode.
  • h, j, k, l move left, down, up, and right. The fingers under your right hand on a QWERTY keyboard.
  • / to start a regex search
  • % and then SRC/REPLACEMENT to do a regex replacement.
  • :q to exit without saving changes.
  • :wq to save and exit.

That's enough to perform a couple of small edits or something if need be.

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checks

Infinity is also functioning, despite throwing up a message saying that it will stop functioning on July 1, and that the developer is going to need more time to transition it to a subscription model, so who knows. I don't have a subscription, and I haven't modified it with a custom API key or anything.

It might be that Reddit decided that they would not cut off apps that said that they would transition to subscriptions after all.

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The mod team will make that call, but there is gonna be a userbase for the sub beyond that.

Is there a major difference between Lemmy and Beehaw (or other federated instances)?

Hello everyone! Long time redditor, first time poster to Lemmy.world. As I’m learning more about the Fediverse, I’m seeing there are several instances that seem to serve the same purpose. For example, Lemmy and Beehaw seem to be similar, yet they are still separate....

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Beehaw.org places a high priority on censoring content that would offend folks like the LGBT crowd; they've been more-willing than most other lemmy instances to defederate from kbin or Lemmy instances that they consider sources of problem users. For some folks, that's great, and for others, that's not what they want.

It is currently a little hard to find the community rules for instances that give you at least a basic idea of what an instance is "about". And not all instances are aiming for something, but for those that are, it's nice to know about it. Sign up for pawb.social, and you're on a furry-oriented instance, for example. For Lemmy instances, trying to join normally shows a page that talks a bit about the instance rules. For kbin instances, you can see a short writeup from the instance admins at /terms, like:

https://kbin.social/terms

You can get there by clicking "Terms of Service" at the bottom of any page.

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Oh, yeah, I think that it was just a couple of Lemmy instances thus far. Overgeneralization.

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I've read that upvote on kbin is basically "save" and boost is the functionality that would be upvote on lemmy or reddit.

Well, that was how things worked 48 hours ago or something like that. Things are changing quickly. :-)

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Lemmy.world and lemmy.ml are currently pretty overloaded.

If you don't have a preference, I'd give consideration to another instance.

Someone just wrote and put a tool up to show how overloaded lemmy instances are:

https://aftershock.lemmy.management/public/dashboards/oT7pdcoeHWccpvZCNmTpJKoGZND8ZdRO3wDWpMug?org_slug=default

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I've seen some people use the term "Threadiverse" to refer to the combination of community-oriented ActivityPub software (currently lemmy and kbin).

Call out post for a particular karma farmer on kbin.social (kbin.social)

@pollodiabolo - this user is a karma whore of epic proportions and they have made a shit load (10-15+) accounts on kbin that boost and upvote each other while sometimes mass downvoting others that have posts trending towards the top - all to farm karma....

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Maybe have some mechanism to subscribe to "feeds" that rate users according to their own metric.

If I decide to trust @StopMassDownvotingYouIdiot's script or whatever that detects shennanigans like this, I can have its score or tag attached to a user. Could subscribe to multiple.

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It sounds to me like the bar to deploy had been discouraging some from deploying instances.. It will be interesting to see what happens with the instance count after this.

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I think a bigger factor may be media uploads. Today, my understanding -- from hearing about a single case of a user in the UAE who couldn't access media after the UAE blocked a Lemmy instance, not from running an instance myself -- is that the instance to which they are uploaded serves them. That is, unlike with messages, media isn't propagated to other instances. I have no idea if support for media uploads is a toggleable flag or what, but if one intends to permit open signups and have users that upload a bunch of large media, it could consume that storage space. I don't know if Elestio presently supports dynamically upgrading a plan to get more storage.

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Another interesting question that I don't know if Elestio has considered -- maybe they have, if they do managed hosting outside of this -- is the situation with content.

To give some examples of Fediverse instances -- Lemmy, not kbin, but I expect that the same will apply -- that I've seen:

  • lemmy.dbzer0.com is run by the old lead moderator of /r/piracy and at least talks about copyright-infringing content. I don't know if the instance itself actually has any.
  • lemmy.blahaj.zone serves, among other things, LGBT-related material which apparently some governments, like the UAE, object to.
  • lemmynsfw.com serves pornographic media. My understanding is that due to various laws surrounding pornography, often hosting providers will not handle commercial services that serve pornography.
  • burggit.moe serves lolicon and consentual-nonconsentual pornographic material. The former and possibly the latter may be legal issues in some countries; it sounds like Elestio operates in a number of data centers and has some constraints on where their backups go, and the country with the datacenter handling backups may have different legal constraints. Germany and the US may be okay with this, but I bet that they operate in some regions that are not.
  • I have not seen it yet, but I am sure that Nazi material and Soviet material -- well, lemmygrad.ml probably has the latter -- will show up. I'm in the US, where all this is First Amendment-protected stuff, but some countries in Europe have far-more-restrictive laws on content featuring one or the other and prohibit display of their symbols; I'm not sure how this applies to hosting services, but my guess is that the German government would take major issue with something like stormfront.org being hosted in Germany.
  • As various services like Twitter have discovered, there are a lot of countries around the world who have governments who are very enthusiastic about tamping down on protests against and forums against the government or demanding information on users who speak out about the government. I believe that the pressure point here is to payment providers. As most people operating instances probably aren't running a business and trying to target their payment providers is useless, trying to go after Elestio may be the next target.
  • Depending upon where an instance is hosted, right to be forgotten laws may apply. The US does not have such a doctrine, but the EU does.
  • The EU and the US may not take the same position on how art produced by generative AI and copyright should interact; this is in flux now. This may have major impact on where what content can be hosted.

I would be willing to wager that I have not seen the extent of content that is available on the Fediverse today in my few days on it. I would also wager that many users will start exploring what the limits are on what hosting providers will accept in various areas.

So there may be some interesting legal and ToS questions that will come up in the future.

Encryption With A Back Door Is NOT Encryption (ktetch.co.uk)

There’s been an increasing call in recent weeks and months for encryption to have government ‘backdoors’ put into them. This is a bad idea. No really, it’s an incredibly bad idea. Even if we took the assumption that it is a push that’s made with only the purest of intentions, and the government universal key is kept...

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The UK also has RIPA, under which it can compel a user to hand over passwords to encrypted material. For those of us in the US, that's prohibited by the Fifth Amendment.

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There's a penalty specified by RIPA. Depending upon the specifics of what they believe to be at stake, up to between 2-5 years in prison for failing to provide access.

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As far as the US goes, that's incorrect. The issue is a 1A issue, not a 5A issue.

No, it's a Fifth Amendment issue. The Wikipedia article I linked to discusses it. Being compelled to provide a password runs into some of the same problems that compelling self-incriminating testimony does.

search

You're confusing the Fourth Amendment -- which deals with searches -- and the Fifth Amendment. You're right that it's not an issue of protection against illegal searches, which is what one might assume to be the case, but not correct as to the actual rationale that it runs into.

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I get the kbin users having a microblog, but I'm still confused as to why magazines also have microblogs.

Like, I can't understand a use case where it wouldn't be preferable to just use articles.

I guess that posts to magazines are accessible to Mastodon users and articles to magazines are accessible to Lemmy users, and maybe the idea is to let people interact with Mastodon on topics? I dunno, just seems odd.

Do Twitter or Mastodon have some analogous feature where one can have a named microblog independent of one's personal microblog?

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users don't have a personal "microblog", every time you make a microblog post here on kbin you're forced to pick a magazine (you can pick /m/random if you don't want to pick).

Ahhh, okay, that's what I was missing. I saw that one could create a post while looking at one's profile, but has never actually done it.

Thank you for the excellent explanation!

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I started using Reddit when it was one page, and spez was submitting a substantial amount of the content. It was much smaller and less-developed than the Fediverse is now. Around that time, MySpace was the website seeing the most usage in the US.

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I like the look, but maybe the kbin color, the pink-purple gradient, should be on the bird rather than the background. I think that the pink-purple is probably part of the recognizable kbin "brand". I remember many people making images with Snoo on Reddit -- where his orange eyes were kind of a recognizable characteristic -- and so having the recognizable characteristics on the mascot itself might be helpful, as I would imagine that if people do that with the K-Bird, the pink-purple gradient might get dropped if it isn't part of the mascot itself.

Also, aside from user creations, many articles about Twitter especially and Reddit to a lesser degree use the logo in artwork above the article to symbolize the service, so having an image that is easy to make recognizable derived creations from might help artists at publications.

EDIT: I don't really use Twitter, so I'm not familiar with their branding, but for Twitter, it looks like they use both a blue-on-white and a white-on-blue form, the latter of which requires including some background, to deal with that. E.g.:

https://www.freepik.com/free-vector/clean-set-social-media-logos_2395697.htm#query=twitter%20logo&position=12&from_view=keyword&track=ais

https://www.freepik.com/free-vector/14-twitter-tweet-social-media-icon-pack_36361218.htm#query=twitter%20logo&position=14&from_view=keyword&track=ais

EDIT2: Oh, one other thought. Are the white shapes coming from the K-Bird intended to represent chirping? If so, maybe shift them a bit towards his beak? In anime, it's something of a convention to use sweat drops coming off someone's head to show that they're nervous, and unless the intent is to make the K-Bird look nervous, it might be misinterpreted as that.

Looking at a Google Images search of cartoon chirping birds, they mostly have the visual stuff indicating that they're chirping coming from further down:

https://www.google.com/search?q=cartoon+chirping+bird&tbm=isch

EDIT3: Also, while I realize that the colors are pre-existing elements and you weren't the one who chose them, I also ran it through a colorblindness simulator, and the gradient remains easily-visible for everyone except people with tritanopia, which is pretty rare, so I think that colorblind people should generally be able to get the full effect of the image as well, which is good.

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The people at !kbinStyles have been putting together a package of userscripts that address some of that in the Web UI on the client side.

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I'm not, but my understanding is that Firefox Fennec can use Tampermonkey and that's how people are using them on mobile.

EDIT: Just tested it and it works on Android for me. Looks like it's only set up to have permissions to run on kbin.social, though, so you can't run it on fediverse.boo or whatever other kbin instances.

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considers

I think that it'd have to be something with a lot of replayability, which doesn't lose value to me after one playthrough.

Also, it can't be a genre where the game was limited by technology. I mean, I remember Wolfenstein 3D being amazing when it came out relative to other games of the time -- walking around in a 3D world was so mind-blowing -- but the novelty of that technology has long-since worn off, and there are many more-impressive 3D games today.

I guess roguelikes are probably about the top of the heap there, and my favorite is probably Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead. I still regularly play that, which seems to me to be a good test of whether it's still at the top of my list.

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I like it, and would recommend the game, but I'd honestly rather have a new game in the same sort of genre.

I think that it'd be possible to take elements from a variety of games like Terraria, Starbound, Noita, maybe Oxygen Not Included and do something even cooler.

  • Noita models at the pixel level rather than the tile level and has a physics engine.
  • Starbound has neat atmospheric lighting effects. I'd love to see that, maybe add in fog, godrays, glare, etc.
  • Oxygen Not Included lets one build devices. Terraria and Starbound let you build bases, but they can't really do anything.
  • If the budget permits, high-res art would be neat. Pixel art lets the brain interpolate a lot, fill in the lack of detail, but if they have the budget to do the higher-res stuff, I'd like it.
  • Leveraging the 3d hardware might be nice. IIRC Terraria and definitely Oxygen Not Included use it for zooming, but I don't think much else. Various distortions and other effects would be neat.
  • Ditto for multiple threads. Yeah, it's a cost in dev and debugging time, takes some work, but you can get maybe an order of magnitude speedup. CPU single-threaded speeds haven't improved much in about two decades.
  • The control is...kind of clunky. I'd love to have something with the feel of, I dunno, Super Metroid or something, one of the successful platformers.
  • More music, maybe effects like lighting that pulses in time with music, better dynamic transitions.
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There's someone on the issue tracker writing a guide. Let me dig up a link.

EDIT: It went into the main repository two weeks ago. Here's the PR for that initial commit:

https://codeberg.org/Kbin/kbin-core/pulls/409

It looks like the author of the guide -- who is not Ernest -- is maintaining a branch where they're writing said guide and that the last commits on that branch are only 11 hours old as of this writing and haven't yet been merged into the main kbin repo. Here's their WIP guide, about as fresh as you're gonna get admin docs for kbin:

https://codeberg.org/lilfade/kbin-core/src/branch/admin-guide/docs

The main repository's admin docs are here:

https://codeberg.org/Kbin/kbin-core/src/branch/develop/docs

@Aesthesiaphilia

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I don't think that that really collides with @Otome's point, which is how much power Ernest has. She's saying that Ernest can't really do what spez is doing with Reddit. Spez controls Reddit in a way that Ernest cannot control kbin, or more-broadly, the Fediverse. Spez could simply deny access to Reddit to third party clients.

There are people who are going to be writing guides and packaging the software. There are a number of kbin instances that Ernest does not personally control, not to mention compatible software. The bar will continue to lower, but it is already low enough that if Ernest cannot "turn off" kbin if there are sufficient people who want to use it.

The overwhelming majority of people in the world cannot deploy or maintain an email server either, if you asked them to do so off-the-cuff. But there are many people running email servers around the world, and many people who can and would do so, were the need to arise. No one company "owns" email and can simply deny access to it because of that.

The point is that kbin and lemmy and such operate as email servers have, or Usenet servers, or IRC. The source code to servers is publicly-available and could be forked, if the need arises. Many different organizations run their own servers. And no one person can deny access to the system.

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Also, @Aesthesiaphilia, it looks like some provider just announced that they're providing managed kbin instances (like, they set it up, handle updates and such) starting at $10/month.

https://kbin.social/m/kbinMeta/t/131142/We-are-launching-KBIN-fully-managed-service

My guess is that there will be other providers.

That isn't necessary to achieve what Otome-chan is going for, but will probably bring down the bar for people who want to have full control over their site but don't want to deal with the technical side or want to only deal with a limited amount of it.

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The way a lot of dot-com startups work, they have high fixed costs -- stuff you pay no matter how many users you have, like programmers -- and low marginal costs, stuff you pay based on how many users you have.

That means that it's good to be big, because you can spread those fixed costs over many, many users. One programmer writing software used by five hundred million users can make a lot more money than software used by five users. The resulting effect is called economy of scale.

So the typical model is to take in a lot of investor money, operate at a loss, and lose money while offering a very compelling service to grow the userbase as quickly as possible.

Once you're big enough, you can spread your costs around many users, so it's easier to make money. You switch from growing your userbase to making money from it. Because you aren't trying as hard as possible to draw in new users, the service is probably gonna get worse from a user standpoint.

If money becomes tight, then it's harder to get investor dollars to operate at a loss with to grow userbase.

My understanding is that due to elevated interest rates in the post-COVID-19 situation, it's more-costly to get investment money. So that will tend to push companies from the "growth" phase to the "monetization" phase.

That affects a bunch of companies, including Reddit.

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Lemme add a bit more to my above comment.

Social media companies are especially doing this whiplash switch from aiming for growing the userbase to making money. And for them, there is another factor that makes it even more important to use money for growth when it is available -- network effect. Basically, for certain services, the role of the service is to facilitate communication between their users. While it's not quite true that all users are equally-likely to communicate with each other -- an elderly user who only speaks Italian and a schoolboy in Kansas who only speaks English might not have a lot of desire to communicate -- in general, users of the service get their value from the service by communicating with each other and each additional user is one more person with whom a user can communicate. This means that it's much more-desirable to use a service with a large userbase than one with a small one, because you can communicate with others. The value of the service as a whole, if everyone were equally likely to communicate with everyone else, rises roughly as the square of the number of users. That's because the value to each user is proportional to the number of users that they can talk to, and that is true for every user -- multiply one by the other, and the value of the service as a whole is proportional to the square of the userbase size.

Social media work by connecting members of their userbase. So for them, they have a huge incentive to use money for growth whenever they can get a hold of it as far as they can.

The services that are especially likely to respond to capital being cheaply available are companies that have a business model that does this, even moreso than a typical dot-com. And sure enough -- Twitter, Reddit, and YouTube derive their value from connecting members of their userbase, rely on network effect as well as economies of scale. And just as they dive really deeply into spending cheap money to grow when they could, when money ceases to be really cheaply available, so they will have further to swim out when it ceases to be.

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I am pretty sure that he's busy with about a million things. If you can do PHP and Symfony yourself, you can submit a PR, a fix, and then he'll review it and include it. If you can't, you can see if there's an issue filed on the issue tracker and if not, file one, and that'll put it in line for people working on PRs. It looks like it's up to about 400 open issues.

But everyone trying to drag his attention to their favorite feature in the hopes that he'll just go implement it really quick won't work. There's only one of him, and there are issues like the servers having trouble exchanging messages under sufficient load and patching SQL injection bugs (i.e. people turning up security holes) that are probably gonna be higher on the precedence list than QoL polish.

EDIT: Some other guy did submit an issue for notification of comments, and someone on that issue pointed out that they're already there. If you want to follow up on an existing issue, you could maybe point out that maybe the defaults for these should be changed: https://codeberg.org/Kbin/kbin-core/issues/293

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I would guess that one case is "I made a new thread and am OP and want to be notified of all messages to that thread" and the other is "I want to be notified of comments that are children to my own comments".

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posts

Nah, that's unrelated. This is just kbin and Reddit terminology clashing.

On kbin, you have posts, which are more-or-less the microblogging feature, a la Twitter.

Threads on kbin are analogous to posts on Reddit.

Threads can be either articles (a text post on Redditl or links (an URL post on Reddit).

Threads go in magazines, analogous to a subreddit on Reddit.

I've been essentially using kbin like Reddit, so ignoring the microblogs and posts.

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Ehhh. I don't think that they're trying to kill Mastodon. I think that they see this as an opportunity to take on Twitter, who is their competitor to be The One Social Media Company. Now, sure, in the long term there may be embrace-and-extend concerns, but...

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Kbin is PHP/Symfony, but people are writing tools in various languages, not to mention clients. I haven't looked at the client repositories, but I assume that some, if not all, of the codebases for them are Java.

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You can access content from an account anywhere, but not migrate the account.

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I mean, kbin is fine too, but there are a ton of Lemmy instances.

What I think the Fediverse Observer needs is a bot that measures response time and uses that to recommend an instance.

Is there any one else who feels like their life has been disrupted by this whole debacle with Reddit. (kbin.social)

I really do like KBin and Lemmy and the fediverse on the whole, but development is still young and the userbase still growing. KBin is still basically early access, and Lemmy is buggy. I spent alot of time in reddit and I'm feeling the pain of trying to ween myself from it. Just wanted to here community perspectives and see how...

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arcade sticks

Like, stuff like Happ Electronics stuff for arcade cabinets, or you mean more-broadly non-flightstick joysticks for modern computers? I mean, I've already seen people on here somewhere talking about their arcade cabinet builds, though they may not be so high-traffic yet as to need a dedicated community just for the sticks.

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Some people wrote a userscript to move the comment box to the top within hours of me showing up. If whatever browser you're using can handle that, may fix your problem. Look at !kbinStyles and they have a growing archive of userscripts there.

May also go into the standard Web UI or whatever if someone sends in a PR and Earnest likes it and then there are the various clients coming out.

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NCD

NCD was like the first magazine I saw with actual activity that was clearly explicitly from Reddit. I mean, it doesn't have the volume yet, but it's definitely a thing already.

!NonCredibleDefense

Or until kbin's auto-hotlinking is fixed in the next release, for kbin.social users:

https://kbin.social/m/NonCredibleDefense

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Ah, gotcha, yeah, like the Happ stuff. Yeah, lemme see if I can find what I saw.

searches

I think the first link, from earlier in the week, was what I remember.

https://kbin.social/m/[email protected]/t/102721/Anyone-else-crazy-enough-to-build-their-own-retro-gaming-machine

https://kbin.social/m/retrogaming/t/11783/What-s-your-most-ludicrous-retrogaming-object

So, yeah, a little bit of chatter, but not much, and not specialized to the sticks.

Can't find certain communities and users in search (kbin.social)

I'm trying to search for [email protected] and [email protected] so that I can follow them, but neither comes up when I use the searchbar. For the community, I know kbin.social is federated with pawb.social because other communities from there do come up in search. I've tried searching for both using name@domain, @name, and...

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[email protected] comes up for me in search on kbin.social now.

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