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linuxPIPEpower,

In the tint2 docs do a ctrl-f for ‘icon’ — does any of that look like it could be of any use to you? I am not sure I understand the issue but maybe this:

launcher_icon_theme = name_of_theme : (Optional) Uses the specified icon theme to display shortcut icons. Note that tint2 will detect and use the icon theme of your desktop if you have an XSETTINGS manager running (which you probably do), unless launcher_icon_theme_override = 1.

launcher_icon_theme_override = boolean (0 or 1) : Whether launcher_icon_theme overrides the value obtained from the XSETTINGS manager. (since 0.12)

If not try searching for ‘icon’ in the rest of the repo, issues etc.

linuxPIPEpower,

what’s so special about workspaces in tiling wms compared to other options?

linuxPIPEpower,

the person who wrote this post is so full of hate and contempt. I find myself quite disinterested in reading.

linuxPIPEpower,

I had one of the early generation kindles for a while. There was a straighrtforward jailbreak to make it more sociable. The set it up with Calibre which was smooth once properly set up. There was (likely still is) a cool plugin that would get RSS feeds, generate an ebook and sync automatically over wifi per schedule. So then when I went out I would have everything to read fresh with zero effort. Which at the time was pretty impressive. Phone batteries sucked so they were not really viable for reading unless you could have them plugged in all the time. The kindle was magic in comparison.

Anyone who wants to dive into e readers should go to the E-Book Readers section of MobileRead Forums. There people are very serious about ebooks.

I was thinking of buying another ereader a couple years ago. I sort of assumed there would be some open-ish type options. But I didn’t find anything that suited me. I really liked eink and wish it was more widely used. I would love one of the phones with dual ekin/LCD displays.

All this to say I hope there is community uptake and participation in the project. I myself do not have a soldering iron and don’t really need an ereader. But I think it’s a cool contribution.

Why does open source take up so much memory space on Macos

I have macbook air with M1 chip, I wish I could change to linux but unfortunately I cant so I try to stick as much as possible to using open source on macos. But i cant understand why FOSS apps take up so much space in memory. I’m even getting messages that says that I dont have space left in memory and i must close apps, and...

linuxPIPEpower,

I am not one of these people who’s constantly surveilling RAM. But I look at it occasionally and I don’t really see anything unexpected in your screenshot. Maybe you could load up comparable non open source applications doing the same task and show the comparison? How does Safari or Edge do if you create a comparable session?

Right now on my linux computer, Firefox is using 1 GB of RAM. I have lots of tabs open so that’s typical. Sometimes it is higher. You are using logsec, zotero and libreoffice which suggests you are conducting research and writing. So I will guess you also have lots of tabs. And maybe browser extensions? The zotero web clipper that looks at every page you load to see if it is scrapeable? Maybe a markdown clipper doing same thing?.. And there is a good chance those other applications are working with a lot of data like your whole citation database, whatever you are writing etc. Do you have any of those zotero extensions that do all kinds of fancy stuff to the items you add? Not to mention Thunderbird and whatsapp. It is a lot of stuff for the computer to do.

In firefox (and presumably librewolf) you can go to about:processes to see exactly what is going on. This page with your thread is using 59 MB. Also you can go to about:unloads which has a rudimentary method to remove background tabs from memory. With only 8gb of RAM you should make a habit of this. You can also get extensions with more sophisticated unloading methods and that might be worthwhile for you.

All that said, I think an 8GB RAM machine is likely under-powered for your task. To be fair I am making assumptions based on the applications you have open. because when I have those sorts of applications open, I am typically being quite demanding of the computer. Opening documents, converting filetypes, scraping metadata, OCR, passing information between applications, interacting with databases, drafting documents, searching email archives… and lots of tabs.

I am really surprised that Apple would sell a laptop-type device with only 8gb in the modern era. I always think of them as expensive but good hardware (if you are using them the way Apple intends). If my assumptions about your work are correct, life will improve if you can scrape up some more RAM.

linuxPIPEpower,

pidgin, gadjim, chatty, dino, kaiden, psi, psi+… some other ones

it isn’t automatic from what I have found. vague “omemo”-related errors are popping up here and there.

what set up do you suggest where the experience is simple? it seems that there are a bunch of standards which servers and clients have varying support for. plus there is a plugin architecture for lot of them which extends or changes functionality, or it matters what version of libraries were used in compilation, and many other little details.

I believe that some people do have a seamless experience but ours hasn’t been. If there is some sort of documentation describing exactly how to get going I would appreciate it.

linuxPIPEpower,

That is a great chart. Do you think it’s up to date? One issue I had was trying to discern very old from current materials.

Thanks, we don’t need high level security, just a reasonable modern attempt at it. Due diligence. I had a hard time understanding what kind of encryption we “should” use.

I tried SchildiChat and I liked it except for all the problems that seems inherent to matrix.

linuxPIPEpower,

Does SimpleX have the ability to share the conversation history across devices?

linuxPIPEpower,

getsession.org their website is an incredible abuse of mouseover omg…

linuxPIPEpower,

so if you click documentation on the session website it brings you to this page docs.oxen.io/oxen-docs/…/session

I am seeing the words “blockchain”, “economics”, “token”, “instant transactions”… And one click to NFT crypto stuff.

I remember hearing that blockchain tech could be used for stuff other than scams but it is used for scams a lot and this app seems to be related to scam-type activity.

Can someone provide any insight?

linuxPIPEpower,

Well I will say that I totally didn’t predict crypto would pop up in this thread. Curious.

getsession.org > Technicals > Documentation > Overview

In exchange for maintaining reliable and trustworthy blockchain nodes, node operators periodically receive rewards in the form of $OXEN tokens.

It sounds like what it is saying is that people who host the remote servers are paid in this crypto currency for the service. Cryptocurrency is mainly useful for laundering money and scamming people. I am having a hard time understanding (a) how there is enough demand for this niche chat service that it should play a major role in their little economy, and (b) where the usefulness of this crypto (e.g. value in fiat so you can do anything with it) could possible some in. Other than scams, laundering etc.

After that comes

long blah blah blah about crypto>Oxen was originally forked from Monero, and it’s still based on the CryptoNote protocol. From these beginnings, Oxen has inherited world class privacy and security features — including ring signatures, stealth addresses, and ring confidential transactions. Just like $XMR, $OXEN is fungible, private, and untraceable. > > The Oxen blockchain got started in 2018, with its first ever block being confirmed on March 5 of that year. Ever since then, the blockchain has been successfully and securely operating. On October 15 2019, we made the transition to Pulse — making Oxen one of the first ever Proof of Stake CryptoNote projects. The entire history of the Oxen blockchain can be easily viewed via this block explorer. As for the future, you can stay up to date on the project by checking out our Oxen Labs Updates. > > The Oxen blockchain also boasts Blink — truly private, instant transactions. Blink allows you to make transactions with all the confidence Monero enthusiasts love, but with a 1 second transaction time. Blink gives $OXEN the potential to be used as a true means of value exchange — not just storage — in a way no other coin can match.

It’s so… weird… to have all this as the introductory docs. Not a troubleshooting guide or dependency info but all this crazy scam BS.

I see that you are saying this crypto stuff doesn’t intrude on the app. Like you are not getting popups trying to scam you; OK. And you think the app is really good. Can the server/app could be de coupled from all this other stuff? Could it be run independently of this fake economy? That’s what I don’t understand about this “not crypto” blockchain stuff. If it’s not crypto, why is the documentation all about crypto instead of normal user or dev manual?

I appreciate the time to answer the question. But I have to be honest this feels icky. Don’t you get the feeling something sleazy is going on? At any rate when these people get caught or cash out won’t everything vanish?

linuxPIPEpower,
linuxPIPEpower,

Sorry that was pretty unclear lol

I was linking to another comment I wrote in this thread about this very strange cryptocurrency-based chat thing. I sort of had the impression maybe you have some prior knowledge of this. I never heard of it and find it puzzling just what the heck they are up to. I am not gonna use it because it smells bad. But am now interested to know what sort of business is going on. The person who recommended it sounds very satisfied with the chat interface. Why/how is it attached to crypto? Just… so weird.

linuxPIPEpower,

Do you have the impression that I have not actually had the problems I am describing? Like I just read online that other people had problems? Not the case. As I said after you assumed I “only tried Pidgin 🤦‍♂️” I have tried lots clients.

but it is a bit unfair to blame that on xmpp, when Pidgin has not updated their xmpp implementation for more than 10 years 🙄

Who is blaming anything on pidgin? you are the one who brought up pidgin.

The join jabber link is very nice and I didn’t find it before. But I actually tried the 2 linux clients they recommend: dino and gajim. And between us, going from memory I think we have tried all but 1 of the recommended servers.

The impression I got from digging around in repos (which I don’t really want to be doing just to get a messaging app tbh) is that the problems we had are legit open issues in some cases. But it is hard to diagnose because the client developers don’t have knowledge/control of the end user’s local environment or the server set up. And likewise the server admins don’t know the internals of every single client. End users with problems are challenged to collect all the required information. Here is an example from gagim: Chat History Sync Issue ()

I do not think it is fair to characterize that user as a “badly informed online pundit”. They have a problem and it is basically too complicated to resolve with the available resources. There is probably some unknown contributing factor.

Snikket:

Help! I just want to chat!

Don’t worry! If there are no Snikket services that would give you an invite and if you are unable to run your own, Snikket may not currently be the right app for you.

linuxPIPEpower,

I have seen it but never tried it. I kind of got the impression it was like a novelty/experimental thing rather than a general purpose serious application. Is that incorrect?

Does your email account get filled up with bazillions of messages? I once installed an app that “backed up” all my SMS to email; it made 1 email for every SMS. It was terribly annoying because when searching mail for something all these irrelevant scraps of old conversations ago clutter up.

Or do you just have a separate mail account to use on chat?

linuxPIPEpower,

I’m not an expert on messengers

me neither! and I have not desire to become one. :D

It has been a big surprise to see how involved you have to get and how much complex understanding is required just to chat. And in my group of friends I am one of the more power user types. If I struggle to use something, then I can’t recommend it to others. So far everyone is really discouraged and I think it is reflecting quite badly on the concept of moving away from corporate/proprietary solutions. And FLOSS. It seems like just not viable for average users. :(

In this kind of situation we don’t have unlimited chances to try all different options one by one. because in requires a coordinated effort for multiple people to make accounts, set up devices, learn new software etc. People do not have time for that on demand. I think for most people, you have 1 shot at this kind of thing, if any. And if they are not FLOSS-type people they will be basing their opinions of all of FLOSS alternatives on the experience.

Patience is wearing thin. I think if the next thing we try doesn’t work, then it’ll be back to facebook/whatsapp/sms for the next 10 years. So I want to find a viable suggestion or be able to manage expectations and adapt to what is realistic.

linuxPIPEpower,

I did the emoji thing and even though I went through it correctly it did not proceed reliably. A problem with the client? Network issue? Who knows. Sometimes it works after a few attempts and other times not.

Encryption keys didn’t work because my password manager ended up with several keys all associated with the same account but I didn’t know what each one was for. (And did the keys each also have another password too? I might be thinking of something else.) They were for the account or the device or the conversation or the client or the session? And my friends were having similar issues; even when I get it set up someone else is having a problem.

I guess with all these things, it gets easier once you get going and stable. You can’t do the emoji thing without having a logged in client available. If everyone is bouncing around clients it’s a mess. There is nothing stable for any of us to join onto. I have used the occasional established matrix community and I don’t have these issues in that case. A lot of the complications come from the fact that we are trying to move together.

I’ve been with the FLOSS people and advocating for freedom and empowerment of the user for quite some time. It’s always a struggle. You always have to actively fight for your freedom. And if you want to stay in control of your data, you have to take matters into your own hands, to some degree. And that is some work. You have to learn concepts and gain a certain amount of literacy. The other option is to give up parts of your autonomy.

I mean the other other option would be to take care of each other and struggle collectively. I do not really think we get freedom one by one. I believe that to be in alignment with FLOSS.

Philosophically it’s kind of regressive to say that lost autonomy is deserved by people who fail to learn to the standards you think are reasonable in the areas you think they should know about. There is way too many things in the world we can’t all know about all of them.

linuxPIPEpower,

@rbn made a well structured comment using bullet points. It can be read pretty quickly but I guess the tldr is the last line:

There is a lot of uncertainty when using AGPL software in a business context which will - in many cases - lead to the decision not to use the software at all.

if you want to know why you have to spend 20 seconds reading the preceding text.

linuxPIPEpower,

I really agree with you on principal. I have been to the library with a 3d printer and I even took their little workshop about how to use it.

I have been hesitant to actually do so because I feel like I would go all the way there and try something, wait for ages for it to print, then realize I made one little mistake, and have to go back home, fix it, make another reservation, make another trip down… The amount of iteration I anticipate while learning to use a technology like this is substantial. Historically I have been a very “trial and error” type of person---- heavy on the error.

I have always been curious, of people who use the public-access 3d printers, how many of them started out learning in that environment? I feel that it would be quite prohibitive to learn the basics. Maybe if you had learned it previously the shared printer could be a good resource.

Anyone here done much on library or other community 3d printers as a novice, and what was your experience?

The most popular licenses for each language in 2023 (blog.opensource.org)

The 2023 report of the licenses in use by the biggest package managers highlights the need to educate developers on the importance of licensing information. While many developers know that Open Source software forms the backbone of modern development, the data shows that much of their software is shared (and most likely also...

linuxPIPEpower,

Here I was expecting to learn license preference of devs working in russian, tagalog, spanish…

linuxPIPEpower,

Thanks for taking the time! But it doesn’t properly reproduce the content.

As an example, here is the very bottom left corner from the wikipedia:

https://discuss.tchncs.de/pictrs/image/df983291-c731-450c-aa9d-0f18526de6bf.png

there is a merge row with content “5 TSMC N5”. Same height as merged row in next column, with content “Zen 4”.

But in the google sheet:

https://discuss.tchncs.de/pictrs/image/cc7de9d1-b44c-4460-b85c-7a5055c6a654.png

those row containing “5 TSMC N5” have all be un-merged into 14 separate rows. However for some reason “Zen 4” has been properly copied?

I would need 2+ very large displays to compare the two documents side by side but from what i can see on my 1 small display there are many such inconsistencies. My experience is that cleaning up the data is impossible.

linuxPIPEpower,

Freezing the top row (when wanted by the user) would be an actual legitimate use of that annoying thing where websites have their navigation bar persistently at the top of the window.

linuxPIPEpower,

It sucks because the info is all there! Someone has gone to the trouble to put it in and everything.

Like I said in the top post I honestly don’t understand how these large tables even get updated… How do the authors know what they are even editing?? There has to be a trick.

linuxPIPEpower,

Could be using CSS https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/position#fixed_positioning. But idk there could be other more sophisticated ways to accomplish the same thing.

In terms of why to not use it, I can think of reasons to avoid it by default. Like it could be very annoying on some devices in some situations. If the page authors made the table headings really long, it could obscure the content. I know I have been annoyed by this sort of thing when websites use position: fixed for their navigation or other elements. When I’ve snooped around the backend of wikipedia I see that they are contending with a wide variety of contributors and users and whatever they do needs to accommodate everyone.

What I find surprising is that there is (apparently) no 3rd party browser extension, userstyle or userscript that allows enabling this.

linuxPIPEpower,

must be

linuxPIPEpower,

I tried the ones I found but they choke on these complicated tables

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