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lily33,

I disagree with the “limitations” they ascribe to the Turing test - if anything, they’re implementation issues. For example:

For instance, any of the games played during the test are imitation games designed to test whether or not a machine can imitate a human. The evaluators make decisions solely based on the language or tone of messages they receive.

There’s absolutely no reason why the evaluators shouldn’t take the content of the messages into account, and use it to judge the reasoning ability of whoever they’re chatting with.

lily33,

Well, if you want me on Mastodon, implement a personalized recommendation feed. Until then, corporate platforms are the only option.

lily33,

I know it’s a feature, and I know people on Mastodon care about it. And because of that it’s not for me. That’s fine. My point was, exactly because Mastodon is not for everyone, there’s no need to be derisive of the people who “flock to yet another corporate social media honeypot.”

lily33,

No, I want a communal, collaboratively managed platform to recommend things to me based on an open source algorithm whose behavior I can adjust the way I want. Alas, this just isn’t a thing.

Just amongst the available options, the closed algorithm optimized for engagement has so far been better at showing me interesting things than an unfiltered chronological feed.

lily33,

Let’s be fair, it’s actually about all those people whose password is “password”. But it is annoying to those who use 15-character random strings for passwords.

lily33,

All that talk about “safety guardrails” is essentially a call against open source - when models are open, people can always remove them. That’s the price of freedom. And we have seen time and time again how the benefits outweigh that price.

lily33,

Actually, there are many programs that are designed to be configured by editing the config files. It’s not a “very unusual” case.

lily33,

I wouldn’t say there’s a place to start. Once you start using programs that are configured through config files, learn about those config files in particular. Eventually, you might find that you prefer editing config files even for programs that have GUI settings - then you dive in more.

Regardless, once your config files become complex enough that you can’t quickly rewrite them if necessary, start looking for a dotfiles manager, tracking them in git, backing them up, etc…

lily33,

I don’t know why you would expect a pattern-recognition engine to generate pseudo-random seeds, but the reason OpenAI disliked the prompt is that it caused GPT to start repeating itself, and this might cause it to start printing training data verbatim.

lily33,

I generally back up the whole ~/.mozilla, and if I restore it after reinstall, everything is as it was. I’ve not tried isolating only the profile, seems pointlessly complicated.

lily33,

Actually, both Arch and NixOS are pretty reliable, and won’t just break out of nowhere, leaving your computer unusable.

lily33,

Well, for starters:

  1. Platforms. I don’t believe that the people who create, or invest in, large internet platforms such as Facebook, YouTube, Uber, Booking, Upwork, etc, have a natural or moral right of ownership to said platform. They should certainly receive returns on their investment - but they shouldn’t have full operational control. Instead, as the platofrm grows, operational control should slowly transition to its users. eventually, they should have the final say on, in the case of YouTube. what content in acceptable, what procedures should be used to remove unacceptable content, how to appeal, etc.
  2. Employment. One of the big issues I see is that employees are under someone’s direct control for 1/3 of each day, and have to do what their boss says. And while they technically consented to that relationship, I don’t see that consent as freely given, because for most people there isn’t a viable alternative. This could be done through more worker cooperative, or encouraging freelancing. Even for people who decide to remain in traditional employment, they should have more official control than they do now.
  3. AI. It seems many people here hate AI, but AI does have the potential for large productivity gains. And while, in the past, productivity gains have note resulted in less work, but rather higher GDP, we could always force the issue. After all, people did it ~100 years ago, and the economy didn’t collapse because of that.
lily33,

That’s not very deep. Closer to plain old logistic regression, really.

lily33,

I fear it will end egalitarianism.

Many imagine future AI as an autonomous agent. I don’t think anyone will release that. Instead, I expect to see a generative AI like GPT-4, however one that produces super-smart responses.

This will create a situation where the amount of computing resources someone has access to determines how much intelligence they can use. And the difference will be much bigger and more comprehensive than the difference between a genius and a normal human.

lily33,

I haven’t had that issue. I’ve heard that disabling adblockers resolves it. But people have said that spoofing their user agent to chrome also magically resolves it…

lily33,

Indeed, the best way to learn how to do something that doesn’t have a good writeup somewhere, is to search GitHub for nix code.

lily33,

Actually, it is already able to perform high quality translation. But it’s too expensive right now to use at scale.

lily33,

I didn’t come across any restrictions imposed on an end user to modify the app for their own needs or redistribution

It’s by default that you can’t redistribute modified versions. You need explicit permission to do so. Furthermore, that license is revocable. So let’s say you invest a lot of time into making modifications - at any point, they can revoke the license, and you suddenly find yourself forbidden from distributing your modified version, too/

If/when Grayjay is transitioned to FOSS, I imagine it’ll be difficult for the community to maintain it due to the complexity…

That’s not really relevant. There’s no requirement in open source on how the projects are to be maintained.

the last thing someone like that would want on a personal project is loads of strangers contributing, bad actors ripping it off trying to make a quick buck, or even worse redistributing it with malware.

It’s up to him whether he accepts strangers contributing. That has nothing to do with whether it’s open source. If he didn’t want contributions, he could disallow any pull requests on an open source software - or conversely, if there are people willing to contribute to a non-open-source project, there’s theoretically nothing stopping that. Redistributing it with malware is not really a problem open-source projects have, and malware writers wouldn’t care for the license anyway.

The only thing is would be the somewhat relevant would be making a quick buck part, but that’s only been a problem for people using MIT/BSD license.

Finally, I’ll never understand why people would want to name software after dental string…

lily33,

The reasoning given by GrayJay was that they don’t want a bunch of malware / ad filled clones running around, and I think that’s reasonable justification?

It’s not.

  1. That just hasn’t been a problem for open source projects. I’ve been using almost only open source since like 2007, and I’ve never seen or heard about an ad-filled clone of some of them. Even if they are a thing, they’ve never reached me as a user.
  2. If someone did want to distribute malware clones, they won’t be stopped by a license restriction.
lily33,

That’s not the accepted usage of the term, though. Rather, open source = free software.

And while I do like the term free software better, I don’t think trying to start war on which term to use would help anything.

lily33,

You can technically can your proprietary software “free” too. But that’s not what the term means. And nether does “open source”.

lily33,

Huh. I guess that’s what happens when Google actually prefer that you download the add-y version, because they also make money from the ads.

lily33,

I think there’s an issue with coupling on the fediverse. For instance, if I run a community, but I’m not happy with the current instance policies, I can’t easily move it to a new insurance (while keeping the memberships). It’s also tricky to migrate my account - and it will lose me posting and vote history, edit/delete rights, etc. Finally, if I want to participate in two servers that have defederated each other, I have to maintain two accounts, which is a terrible user experience.

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lily33,

There’s desperate need to a library that’s simpler to use than wlroots or smithay - but unless it supports more protocols (later shell, gamma control, session lock), I don’t think this is a real a alternative yet.

lily33, (edited )

I think NixOS is awesome, but it certainly doesn’t offer “access to (basically) all Linux-capable software, no matter from what repo.” - at least not natively. You can do that through containers, but you can do that with containers on any distro. Where it shines is declaring the complete system configuration (including installed programs and their configuration) in its config file (on file-based configuration, I wouldn’t really consider blendos a viable competitor).

lily33,

To clarify, I was referring specifically to its ability to specify the full system configuration in its config file - not overall. But I haven’t used blendos, and my impression is mostly from a quick look at their documentation. They have a snippet with sample configuration. There, they have a “Modules” section, but I couldn’t find what modules are available, what options they have, how to configure them if we want to do something more complex than the available options.

Then containers are clearer: they have a list of installed apps, and then commands to bring them to the desired state (somewhat similar to a dockerfile). But even then, i imagine that if you have a more complex configuration, that’s going to get clunkier.

lily33,

Well, for playing games I use the flatpak version of steam and it works OK.

For dev work, it’s great overall. Especially its ability to create separate reproducible environments with whatever dependencies you need for every project. However, there are some tools (rare, but they exist) that don’t work well with it, and if your dev work happens to need them, it can becomes a problem.

For day to day (i.e. web browsing), it works the same as anything, with one disadvantage: there is a disadvantage here: it downloads a lot more than other distros on update, and uses more disk space. The biggest difference between NixOS, and say Arch, is not how it behaves once it’s up and running, but in how you configure it. Specifically, you have to invest a lot of time to learn how, and set up your system initially. But then reinstalls, and (some of) the maintenance, become easier.

lily33,

Do you think the use of OCI containers/images is a mistake/bad choice from blendOS?

No. It’s probably the best way to run packages from Arch, Debian. Ubuntu, Fedora, and others, all on the same system.

How is NixOS different?

NixOS simply doesn’t tackle that problem, so it doesn’t come with containers out of the box. If you want to run packages from other distros on NixOS, you’d probably need to manually configure the containers.

I feel like you’re under the impression that the three distros, NixSO, blendos, and Vanilla OS, have similar goals. I don’t know about Vanilla OS, but the main similarity between the other two is that they’re both non-standard in some way.

But they’re actually solving completely different problems: BlendOS wants to be a blend of different OSes, NixOS wants to have a reproducible, declarative configuration (declarative here means, you don’t list a bunch of steps to reach your system state, but instead declare what that state is).

lily33,

Learning git is very easy. For example, to do it on Debain, one simply needs to run, sudo apt install lazygit

lily33, (edited )

For some software, where EEE tactics aren’t a concern, but corporate adoption matters, these licenses make perfect sense. However. that’s not the case here: an OS is a prime target for EEE.

lily33,

Reading this text, it looks kinda like the difference between red () apples, red () apples, and red () apples…

lily33,

You could put users in the same group, and give some folders group permissions.

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  • lily33,

    No, OP is asking about debain.org, not a random site.

    This is the official Debian bash package. It might be slightly less safe (I think apt verifies signatures that I’m not sure are checked when your manually download the deb), but not like a random exe

    lily33,

    If his alternative was boat, from what I’ve read, they aren’t really better…

    lily33, (edited )

    But we’re talking about passengers, not cargo, so the relevant numbers are CO2 per passenger-km.

    Which changes the efficiency - because while you can cram people tightly for a 12h flight, you can’t do that for a few weeks journey.

    travelandclimate.org/transport-calculations

    www.theguardian.com/travel/2006/…/cruises.green

    lily33,

    But that’s not a real alternative - you can’t redirect all isn’t traffic to hitch a ride in cargo ships.

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    lily33,

    But wouldn’t that just tell you, “Firefox was connecting to the internet”?

    Does Bing Chat give reliable answers to math and physics questions? If not is it possible to make it more reliable?

    I realize and understand the criticisms of ChatGPT and I have personally seem how bad it can be. Once I asked to count the number of days till a random date giving the present date and it failed miserably, again and again. Trust me! I get the criticism. But, what about Bing Chat Bot?...

    lily33,

    I have experience with GPT-4, and in particular I’ve used to for math questions in my work occasionally. I’m not sure how Bing chat compares.

    For GTP-4, I’ve noticed the following:

    1. How reliable the answer is depends on how easy or obscure the question is. It hasn’t lied to me on easy or introductory material, but once your questions start becoming more obscure, and it’s less likely to have the answer in the training set, it starts making things up.
    • I think of it as search to an extent - it needs to have the answer in the training data to find it. Unlike google, it can usually find an answer even if you don’t use the proper terms. But if it doesn’t find an answer, it might make something up.
    • “Easy or introductory” is relative - I have been able to get good answers for some masters-level math, and some wrong ones for lower-level things. Ultimately it depends on how much resources on the topic have been in the training set.
    1. It’s actually much more reliable in detecting errors than it’s in generating text. So you can open a new chat and ask, “Is the following true: …” and it will catch most of its own errors. Once it starts catching error, you should know you’ve left the reliable “easy questions” territory, and even if it can still be useful, exercise much more care.
    2. The way you phrase a prompt matters a lot. For example, if you ask it to explain its reasoning step by step, it becomes much more accurate.
    3. It is generally good in rephrasing questions to use better terminology.

    .

    Bing chat might be different in some regards. I know that it automatically searches the web for sources, and when generating an answer, and bases its answer on the contents of the sources it found - but I don’t have experience with it.

    That said, asking for additional sources (besides the search results it found) shouldn’t improve the accuracy. It might just give you something you can use to fact-check it.

    lily33,

    Also, bundling extensions with the browser is not the way to cater to power users - they will install the extensions they want anyway.

    If gecko became embeddable (or better yet, servo was finished), so users could make alternative firefox-based browsers, that would be really good for power users. Right now things like qutebrowser are all based on blink, because that’s the only option.

    lily33,

    There is a difference between forefox-based browser and chromium-based one. Namely, if you base it on chromium, you take the blink engine and you can build watever UI around it you want. If you base it on firefox, you actually have to take the full firefox code and make changes to it.

    All those firefox-based browsers are very similar to firefox with some small changes made. If you actually want to make large changes, keeping up with updates will quickly become a mess.

    By contrast, qutebrowser has very little in common with Chromium except for the rendering engine - the user experience is totally different.

    lily33,

    What you’re talking about is called “feature creep” and is a surefire road to poor quality.

    I, for example, don’t use any of the extensions you mentioned. And I checked two at random and both had less than 10k users, so they’re by no means “must have”. If they had to include all functionality that every “power user who does not appreciate having to frequently add new extensions” ever wanted, they might as well just rename it FireDinosaur or something. It will be both extremely heavy, and quickly extinct.

    fell, (edited ) to linux
    @fell@ma.fellr.net avatar

    I am once again considering to write my own window manager

    ...unless the setup I am thinking of is already possible, let me construct this in your head:

    On the top of the screen, there is narrow status bar, which is split into two parts. On the right side of the bar, you have your clock, your battery, your signal strength and so on.

    On the left side, there is a clickable tab for every window you have opened. It's like browser tabs: Every window always uses the entire space below the status bar.

    On the far left, there could be an icon which opens a searchable list of applications, kind of like but vertical. Everything supports mouse input as you would expect.

    Does that exist? Should I make it? It would be awesome for smaller screens, like phones.

    Edit: I should add that I'm planning to run it on a Nokia N900 with a single 600 MHz CPU core, 256 MB RAM and a resolution of 800×480 pixels. Existing full desktop environments like Xfce4, LXDE, and so on are way to heavy to run.

    @linux @linux @linux @linux

    lily33,

    Almost any window manager should be able to do that. One way would be: timing WM + a script that opens each window in new workspace + bar configuration (if the built-in bar can’t do what you want, there are plenty configurable thind-party bars that most WMs support).

    lily33,

    That said, it should actually be possible to make a bullshit detector that detects bullshit writing.

    lily33,

    Well, hypothetically, if someone defined the “consciousness” of every particle mathematically, and then figured out the laws that would allow us to compute (or at least approximate) the “consciousness” of a composite system (such as a brain), then we’d would have a genuine scientific theory.

    lily33, (edited )

    Since I don’t think this analogy works, you shouldn’t stop there, but actually explain how the world would look like if everyone had access to AI technology (advanced enough to be comparable to a nuke), vs how it would look like if only a small elite had access to it.

    lily33,

    I would say the risk of having AI be limited to the ruling elite is worse, though - because there wouldn’t be everyone else’s AI to counter them.

    And if AI is limited to a few, those few WILL become the new ruling elite.

    lily33,

    I think calling it “dangerous” in quotes is a bit disingenuous - because there is real potential for danger in the future - but what this article seems to want is totally not the way to manage that.

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