Really cool stuff. This is the kind of administrative superstructure that is necessary for Lemmy to really function as intended. Even as the federated structure provides more possibilities and opportunities, it also introduces added complexity and adversity. Fediseer seems like it has the potential to manage that additional complexity by distributing the labor required across many instances.
I’m eternally grateful for the work that you are putting in to build these tools.
Hi, do you think lemmy would be as popular as Reddit ? I mean, many subreddits have much more posts compared to communities on lemmy… sometimes I scroll through Reddit sub top of month and see no end. At lemmy mostly I see 10 posts monthly… I do like concept of moving to lemmy, but it might make no sense if people’s are no...
Our numbers are relatively small, but there are a disproportionate number of internet fanatics. I thought I was terminally online but I have to say I’ve been thoroughly outclassed in that department by some of my fellow Lemmings.
It’s good but it’s also something we need to keep in mind as we grow and try to recruit users that are less digitally minded.
I’ve been following the stats closely. There were actually several times that the active users ticked down and then ticked up the next day, the most recent being September 19/20. But I suspect that may be a statistical artifact, whereas the increase on September 28 is legit. It looks like about 1000 new accounts were created/became active on that day.
User attrition has slowed significantly in September compared to August. We should stabilize somewhere in 30,000 range for MAUs before the end of the year, which is not too shabby. We are unlikely to see another big wave of growth until the code is significantly more mature, but the current userbase is fairly well established and self sufficient.
I can’t wait until we get that next wave so we can have more sports fans and humanities types, but you guys are alright for now 😅
It looks like the majority of communities struggle with not enough content/discussions
This is true, but also subjective. How do you define enough? Enough to doomscroll or enough to check for 10 minutes daily? All we really need to be self sufficient is enough content to keep people coming back regularly, we don’t need to replicate reddit.
many de-facto are blogs of mods/creators where others are passive subscribers.
This seems like an exaggeration. Most communities that have quality content also have quality discussion, in my experience.
For me the main criteria is: if I want to get an answer to a question, especially a non trivial one which is not releated to lemmy/fediverse - I should better go to reddit.
You’re not wrong, but I don’t see why Lemmy would want to replicate reddit in that respect. You don’t need to spend any time on reddit or even make an account to take advantage of that functionality. You just Google your question and add reddit to the end and voila.
Probably, can you give me example of such communities which are not about fedeverse, technology, foss or memes?
I also skipped the gaming and political communities because there is an absolute boatload of that content on Lemmy, as I’m sure you’re aware. These are some communities that I am subscribed to that jumped out as being fairly active.
Wow, we are really going all in on the tragic dog paintings this week 😅
In some ways, these works feel more gutwrenching than a painting of human suffering, probably because we’re well desensitized to the latter. And also because doggos are adorable.
or maybe some other terminology would be better? lots of people get confused when you ask them to choose an instance, sometimes I think even the word “proxy”, “host”, or “hub” is simpler...
I have a slight preference for server but I’ve been using both terms frequently and interchangeably. Whenever I start talking about this server and that instance, I often end up using the term several times in rapid succession. As all good writers know, widening ones vocabulary in such situations helps give the text a better flow. It’s good to have multiple terms for any given concept to avoid excessive repetition when trying to explain things.
I know this is a joke/meme, but I sincerely think of the Roman Empire a surprising amount of times. I find myself obsessing over how Roman citizens were living just as complex lives as we are today, or about Marcus Aurelius’ life and philosophy, or about how the Republic fell and became a totalitarian state.
I frequently think about the late phase of decadence and dysfunction, followed by collapse. I figure the American empire is treading a similar path, just on a faster timeline.
As a moderator, one of my duties is to remove comments that are unnecessarily hostile, personal, and/or non-productive. The vast majority of accusations of fascism that I have seen here are unwarranted and needlessly inflammatory.
I don’t like the hexbear community at all, but jumping straight to accusations of fascism is counterproductive in the extreme. Hexbear users are guilty of brigading, arguing in bad faith, trolling, racism, advocating for violence, and supporting authoritarian regimes, but its quite simply incorrect to describe them as a far right ultranationalist group.
I removed many comments throughout that fiasco, and the vast majority were from hexbears.
That’s not a counterpoint, it’s a non-sequitor that’s both factually inaccurate and inflammatory. They verifiably did call out “racism” (Winnie the pooh memes) and “bigotry” (crazy is an ableist slur) when they were federated.
A counter point would be to clarify that their criticism of bigotry is not genuine, but instead is merely a tactic to shame ideological opponents. They allow rampant bigotry within their own community, but adopt a zero tolerance policy when it comes to other communities.
Their definition of bigotry is entirely arbitrary and political and has no moral or philosophical underpinning, and is therefore meaningless.
The difference being that my response actually acknowledges the point and proceeds to explain why the comment is incorrect, while yours simply ignores the point and declares them to be fascists.
Your comment is exactly the same type of response that hexbears often give, which is why I removed it.
No hard feelings, I totally understand why you would respond like that when being trolled and brigaded by those clowns. But I was just trying to be objective and hold everyone to the same standard.
Fair enough, I understand where you are coming from, you don’t need to convince me that hexbear is toxic. I just wanted to explain my reasoning and demonstrate that my actions weren’t some ugly power trip.
tl;dr: let’s stop the generic and almost-irrelevant-doom-and-gloom karma-harvesting one-liners that can be copy-pasted between any two articles written in the last century...
Good suggestions. On the one hand you’re right, but on the other hand I don’t want to totally discourage people from posting a silly/low effort comment if that’s all they have to say.
Although it’s true that Lemmy comments are not always substantive, there is an associated problem whereby a lot of posts barely get any comments or discussion at all. So I think we also need to recognize that even a low effort joke can help stimulate further discussion and maybe result in a more substantive comment in the form of a reply.
Given that this entire post and thread of comments is a discussion about the lack of quality comments in the fediverse, and the hexbear server has made more total comments than all of the other servers combined, surely you can follow my reasoning in allowing them to federate with us.
I obviously misjudged the extent of their misanthropy, but I don’t see what other course we could have taken. You yourself made a comment about not being in favor of defederation at the time, only to change your mind a day later.
How would you have handled that situation? Preemptive defederation? My assumption was that such an action would be viewed as paternalistic by many of our users, and contrary to our stated policies regarding defederation.
Well, I wouldn’t have called the discussion your users were having around defederation a “struggle session,” to start.
That was my mistake, I was unaware of the origin of that term and assumed it was merely a euphemism for a thread with a lot of arguing.
I didn’t feel any pushback from y’all when users overwhelmingly wanted to defederate from exploding-heads.
You clearly weren’t paying attention. It took us weeks to defederate from exploding heads, because we insisted upon having a democratic debate and vote where all users would be able to express their opinions on the topic. If you have time, you can pore through these threads and see how much pushback I gave regarding that defederation saga.
There were at least two valuable users of this instance who left because they were outraged that it took so long to defederate EH, and they suspected myself and/or TheDude of being sympathetic to alt-right viewpoints and/or fascism.
Now, I have users such as yourself who accuse me of being a hexbear in disguise. The truth is, I am merely trying to make the right decisions for my server and Lemmy as a whole, and I believe that widespread defederation undermines the usefulness of this platform, so I resist it as a default. Although I seem to always end up looking like the asshole for not caving to the demands of the mob immediately, I believe that my philosophy regarding defederation is objectively the correct approach.
Lemmy.world and beehaw are servers that have consistently taken a safe, conservative approach of preemptive defederation. Sh.itjust.works and lemm.ee are servers that pursue more open-minded federation policies. It’s beneficial for Lemmy to have a diversity of options and spaces to cater to a diverse userbase with differing needs and expectations.
Perhaps this additional context gives you more reason to question my actions, but I believe that it vindicates me because it demonstrates that my decisions have remained consistent and are not politically motivated. I simply believe in seeing for myself what any given community is like, and I want to run a server for people of a similar mind. I’m not comfortable in an echo chamber where someone else decides what I get to see, and I want to treat my users like they are mature enough to make these decisions for themselves.
If you want to call me a naive idiot who doesn’t know anything about moderating online spaces, that’s a fair criticism, albeit a bit harsh. But please stop implying that I’m a tankie and/or fascist in hiding, because that’s simply not true.
But you seemed to be taking a personal interest in maintaining federation with hexbear. I didn’t see a post from admins regarding exploding-heads as a “valuable asset.” Maybe I’m wrong on that.
No, that’s correct. Exploding heads had about 20 active users at the time while hexbear has 1600, many of whom are extremely active. So I wanted to make an attempt to capture some of that activity and direct it in a more positive direction, for the benefit of Lemmy.
Just seemed like a far cry from our instance defederating from lemmygrad from its inception, due to y’know, the whole radical troll thing.
That was a personal decision by TheDude, I hadn’t even made an account at that point.
They could refederate at any time if they decide they’d like to “dunk” on us again. I’m not sure why we’re leaving them with the keys.
First of all, the fact that they defederated us is a tactical victory for our users. We countered their aggression and they were forced to retreat back to their hole.
Also, I trust the admins of hexbear to not do something like that, partially because it would serve no purpose.
If you think this has been frustrating for you, imagine being me. But I’m still optimistic about Lemmy because our users continue to produce high quality discourse like this thread.
Just making sure I’m in the right place. I cannot see any developed communities here so I’ve started wondering, what’s the real place everyone from Reddit has moved to? I’ve heard something about Discuit, but never tried it.
Yeah I’m definitely much more of a commenter than a poster. In the early weeks I was really trying to post but I kinda ran out of steam.
But of course if everybody did only that, then there wouldn’t be anything to react to, and that may be kinda the problem right now.
You’re right, we have plenty of users with insightful viewpoints, but there is a dearth of posts and content for them to talk about. Also, let’s not forget that the sorting algorithm isn’t great right now and a lot of people aren’t seeing enough of the content that does exist.
I was going through this wonderful thread lemmy.ml/post/4540882 and found many of you talking about discord as it’s a crime against knowledge for not allowing indexing on it. I think we are talking about indexing by search engines like DDG and Google here and I know that discord questions don’t show up in search results and...
Yes, matrix is a viable alternative to discord and it does have similar features like creating threads and having different rooms. I don’t know if Matrix chats are indexable.
First of all I think you meant the Tesla of the internet provider industry. And also, by your definition, even Tesla isn’t the Tesla of the EV industry 😅
Hey you make some really good points and I appreciate your contribution to the discussion, but maybe dial it back 20% on the sass. You don’t need to make it personal by saying
You don’t understand today’s economy
Anyways, assuming that your assertions are accurate, what’s the angle for Musk? You’re implying Starlink will corner the market in certain areas with unrealistic price points, and then raise prices eventually? Or is there a more insidious corporate strategy I’m not recognizing?
You said starlink was the Tesla of the EV industry. But they aren’t part of the EV industry, they are an internet provider.
And many people would argue that Tesla is not leaps and bounds above the competition, but rather falling behind the competition after starting with a huge head start.
This shouldn’t come as a huge surprise. Meta is moving forward with their plans for Theads and the Fediverse, and their adjusted terms reflect a new impending reality for Fediverse users.
I think there is a bit of hysteria about Threads/Meta and some people are trying to push back. There are plenty of people in this thread that don’t fully understand federation and are knee-jerk reacting because it’s Meta.
However, I totally agree with the sentiment being expressed, which is to keep Meta and large corporations as far away from Lemmy as possible. This is a community-run space that is a haven from the corporate internet, and indeed capitalist society in general. Protecting this space should be our highest priority.
I feel that some of our more technical users are losing the forest for the trees in this discussion. Believe it or not, some Lemmings don’t come from a 30 year tech background and don’t fully understand how the platform, or indeed the internet as a whole, actually functions.
This group of people, which includes me, are acting rationally by opposing any interaction with Meta on grounds of principle. We don’t know exactly what we are scared of, but we do know if there is any vulnerability or weakness that Meta is trying to exploit, they already know their plan and we won’t know until it’s too late. Meta is a terrifying behemoth just waiting for a chance to consume Lemmy. I would argue that a little bit of hysteria is justified in this case.
Edit: just to clarify, this is more of a response to the parent comment, I think we are in agreement. I didn’t want to start another reply thread so I figured I would build off your point.
This is a very informative comment. That last paragraph neatly sums up the anti-consumer nature of mobile apps. Thank you for your insight, and chef’s kiss for the username/pfp.
Lol wow. As much as I’d like to take credit for the knitting skills, @QTpi is not my account. I didn’t realize we had another QTpi on this server, cool.
Also nice to see you on Lemmy, thanks for the stickers!
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Unremoval of Piracy Communities
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Do you think lemmy would be as popular as reddit?
Hi, do you think lemmy would be as popular as Reddit ? I mean, many subreddits have much more posts compared to communities on lemmy… sometimes I scroll through Reddit sub top of month and see no end. At lemmy mostly I see 10 posts monthly… I do like concept of moving to lemmy, but it might make no sense if people’s are no...
[Lemmy active users] 28th of September was the only day with more monthly active Lemmy users than the previous one, probably thanks to the release of Boost for Lemmy (lemmy.fediverse.observer)
Link to the daily stats: lemmy.fediverse.observer/dailystats...
Anon gets challenged. (lemmy.ml)
Saved - Edwin Landseer (lemmy.world)
would it be simpler for people if we said "server" instead of "instance"?
or maybe some other terminology would be better? lots of people get confused when you ask them to choose an instance, sometimes I think even the word “proxy”, “host”, or “hub” is simpler...
Update on my 3D printed Lemmy logo keychain: Life has not been kind to him (i.imgur.com)
Amazon Has Turned Into an Monopolistic Shithole Littered With Pay-to-Play Ads, FTC Lawsuit Solemnly Argues (www.404media.co)
If number of undiagnosed neurodivergent people proves to be significant portion, neurotypical means just people who won the standards war of communication protocol
We never know the number of undiagnosed, many may be just capable of pretending but suffering.
Seriously, though. How often do you think of the Roman Empire?
I know this is a joke/meme, but I sincerely think of the Roman Empire a surprising amount of times. I find myself obsessing over how Roman citizens were living just as complex lives as we are today, or about Marcus Aurelius’ life and philosophy, or about how the Republic fell and became a totalitarian state.
What do you want to see more of on Lemmy?
Any specific types of content you want to see more of here
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Rupert Murdoch steps down as Fox and News Corp. chairman (www.cnn.com)
Collectively, Lemmy has a substantive comment issue
tl;dr: let’s stop the generic and almost-irrelevant-doom-and-gloom karma-harvesting one-liners that can be copy-pasted between any two articles written in the last century...
Where are all of the reddit refugees these days?
Just making sure I’m in the right place. I cannot see any developed communities here so I’ve started wondering, what’s the real place everyone from Reddit has moved to? I’ve heard something about Discuit, but never tried it.
Is there no way to index discord chats? Is Matrix a viable discord alternative?
I was going through this wonderful thread lemmy.ml/post/4540882 and found many of you talking about discord as it’s a crime against knowledge for not allowing indexing on it. I think we are talking about indexing by search engines like DDG and Google here and I know that discord questions don’t show up in search results and...
Isn't it weird that we have exactly five fingers and five toes on each hand and foot.
I mean why 5, why 5 on each limb, why not 4 or 6. Why do our feet also have 5. Whats with our body being so symmetrical....
SpaceX projected 20 million Starlink users by 2022—it ended up with 1 million (arstechnica.com)
Untitled by Zdzislaw Beksinski (lemmy.world)
What is the one most astonishingly dumb things that, as a child, you believed was absolute truth?
I dont remember the age, but it was before Kindergarten, thought men came into the house at night to load the next days shows into the TV.
I made a FOSS physical keyboard for my Fairphone 4 (feddit.de)
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Threads' New Terms and Conditions Affects the Fediverse (wedistribute.org)
This shouldn’t come as a huge surprise. Meta is moving forward with their plans for Theads and the Fediverse, and their adjusted terms reflect a new impending reality for Fediverse users.
Google removes fake Signal and Telegram apps hosted on Play (arstechnica.com)
Before linking an account, be sure the app you're using is legit.
WIP Wednesday
Whatcha working on?
Ridley Scott Has a ‘Fantastic’ Cut of ‘Napoleon’ That Runs Four-and-a-Half Hours and Features Way More Joséphine (variety.com)
How does anyone believe in monogamy nowadays?
Not talking about being with one partner at a time. Talking about the idea of finding “the one” and being with them your whole life....
CenturyLink left 86-year-old woman with no Internet service for a month (arstechnica.com)