flashgnash

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Is it just me, or has the BS with OpenAI shown that nobody in the AI space actually cares about "safeguarding AGI?"

Money wins, every time. They’re not concerned with accidentally destroying humanity with an out-of-control and dangerous AI who has decided “humans are the problem.” (I mean, that’s a little sci-fi anyway, an AGI couldn’t “infect” the entire internet as it currently exists.)...

flashgnash,

For your first point sure it couldn’t run itsself on consumer hardware, but it could design new zero day malware faster than any human and come up with new scams to get it onto people’s machines

It could also design a more efficient version of itsself to spread that will run on lower powered hardware

flashgnash,

You absolutely can magic up something that runs far more efficiently, just look at gpt 3 vs 3.5, or the many open source models that have found better training with a smaller number of parameters makes much more performant models

flashgnash,

I’m not talking about language models of today though, this is a hypothetical for if we do ever come up with a true agi

flashgnash,

I understand that LLMs are not agi, but as agis don’t currently exist I think it’s fair to assume the same concept that applies to literally all software of over time people discover more efficient ways to do things will also apply to it

Also we don’t know how slow or fast it will end up being, some deep learning models are incredibly fast, some are slow

flashgnash,

print(1) print(2) print(3) print(4) print(5)

for I=1,5: print(I)

There you go I made code smaller

I also never said anything about making code smaller I said making it more efficient. It’s not about compressing it it’s about finding better, less CPU expensive ways to do things, which we absolutely do

Another AI based example, video chats currently work streaming video, but there’s a technology in development that takes one screenshot, sends that, then sends expression data to be reconstructed on the other side

Far more efficient network wise

Hardware speed has increased, sure but that applies to both consumer hardware and servers, all a theoretical AGI would have to do is improve on its own training/code enough that it will run at all on consumer level hardware (which language models currently will do

(For reference, llama 40B runs just fine on my ThinkPad from 2016, pre-trained models are not that difficult to run, training is the expensive part)

flashgnash,

It is absolutely speculative never claimed it’s not. Something like GPT was purely speculative science fiction until a few years ago though

Not saying it’s going to happen, but if it does and it is true agi it could absolutely take over the world, that’s my only point

flashgnash,

Ok, but who says we’re anywhere near that limit with AI? It’s still very new technology

Used to be you’d need a massive disk for megabytes of slow storage, now we’ve got 4tb nvmes smaller than a credit card

As I said, this theoretical AGI does not have to make itself tiny, all it would have to do is be able to run at a reasonable speed on the average gaming PC for example which is feasible considering the heaviest pre-trained AI models will run on hardware from 2016 albeit somewhat slowly

I don’t think the argument there’s a physical limit works here, as it’s entirely unknown how efficient existing models can be made currently, let alone a purely hypothetical AGI which can and will be used to improve on itself

flashgnash,

If your main concern is UI distro doesn’t really matter, the thing you need to think about is desktop environment, most big distros let you choose from a few

TL;Dr I would suggest looking for a distro with kde plasma as it’s quite customisable and looks quite clean out of the box. Personally I prefer gnome out of the two but you definitely hit a wall eventually customising it

Gnome is what Ubuntu and fedora use by default I believe and looks somewhat like Mac (but is fairly distinct from everything else, you kinda have to see for yourself)

KDE Plasma is what the steam deck uses in desktop mode and looks kinda like modern windows.

Cinnamon is what Linux mint uses which also looks like windows 10 and is designed to appeal to windows users

Pop!os recently released their own DE called cosmic, but they were originally using their own customised version of gnome

flashgnash,

+1 have been trying to make a Linux tablet work. Gnome is alright but it’s got a crap CPU and 2gb of ram and nothing lightweight has good touch support annoyingly

flashgnash,

I was trying things along the lines of hyprland, sway and i3. I have this idea in my head that a touch screen tiling WM would work really well (from what I’ve seen that’s what people love so much about the iPad nowadays anyway)

Hyprland has something called hyprgrass I think which enables touchscreen gestures, still in the process of figuring out how to install that in NixOS though. (it’s got a nix.flake but it’s not in nixpkgs and I’m still unsure of how to install flakes to a traditional configuration.nix setup)

flashgnash,

I got a pretty good setup going with forge, problem is gnome is too heavy, this thing has 2gb of memory and like 2ghz CPU

flashgnash,

Pretty sure it does that regardless of what language you’re using if you have the extension installed

flashgnash,

Could’ve sworn half life already ran on a deck

Black Mesa does at least

flashgnash,

I start overheating past 30 I would hate it there

flashgnash,

I think you eventually get used to it whatever you wear

I tend to be the shorts and t shirt in the middle of winter guy, but when I put a hoodie on it’s the most comfortable, perfect temperature you could imagine

flashgnash,

Gnome I think is the best hope for mainstream adoption if that ever actually happens

Shows off a lot of the advantages of Linux desktop without needing to spend hours configuring it for it to look nice and work great

flashgnash,

I think that’s what makes it great for newcomers though. If you show them something pretending to be windows they’ll think why not just use windows, if you show them something better they might be more impressed

Coming from Windows gnome was pretty intuitive for me, it’s got much of the same workflow still even if buttons are in different places

flashgnash,

The launcher is quite nice to use, fast and search oriented (I never used any of the start menu on windows besides the search bar anyway so the fact it’s the main focus is nice)

Virtual desktops (only on Wayland) are very well implemented and feel very smooth, three finger swipe works a charm, with the forge extension it tiles servicably as well

Also just one of the nicest looking DEs imo. I have since switched to hyprland because I wanted first class tiling support but I have my system UI looking very similar to gnome’s, using mostly gnome’s applications

Having used gnome on Ubuntu a couple years ago I have to say it has come miles recently (also Ubuntu’s gnome in my opinion is not as good as vanilla gnome) - it feels very clean and intuitive out of the box

flashgnash,

Pretty sure he was just making fun of the guy complaining about the top bar

flashgnash,

I don’t think gnome is particularly customizable visually, you can change theme and use extensions if you really want to buy their main focus is making one really good UI and I’ve gotta respect that

At least in my opinion gnome looks far better than KDE out of the box, KDE just looks like windows to me

Gnome has fairly good window snapping as well I think and stuff like pop shell and forge for tiling

flashgnash,

What’s wrong with it? I’m currently using nautilus as my file browser on hyprland and it’s more than servicably

I don’t really use a file browser that much anyway so I might not be the best person to comment though. Tend to find it quicker and easier to move files around from a terminal then any file browser for everything except choosing a file for something

flashgnash,

If that’s the only reason for switching couldn’t you just install kde’s file browser on gnome though? Or any file browser for that matter I don’t think it forces you into Nautilus

flashgnash,

I think you might just need to set your xdg default no?

flashgnash,

Or green bubbles, or red bubbles, pink bubbles, multicoloured bubbles

flashgnash,

I think pretty much anyone buying one those laptops who wants Linux already knows how to install it and let’s be honest if it ships with any given distro I think most would install their preference over it anyway

flashgnash,

It’ll be pretty easy to find it given that the field is barren

flashgnash,

Hyprland is fantastic unless you have Nvidia

I have Nvidia in both my machines

flashgnash,

I’ve done that already though haven’t disabled xwayland didn’t realise that would work without being compatibility

flashgnash,

Whichever one is current in nixpkgs stable

On my laptop when it goes to sleep and wakes up everything looks corrupted and it crashes back to the gdm login screen after a second or two

flashgnash,

I’m running it on my laptop I believe but pc is custom so I doubt there’d be anything there for it there

flashgnash,

Or you could just use private mode, profiles, sandboxed browser etc

flashgnash,

It’s great for writing simple scripts, if you know what you want you can get it to give you a pretty good base, save starting from scratch

I also kinda want to make “sentient” chess where you have to talk the pieces into moving where you want them and they resist sacrificing themselves

flashgnash,

It is, that’s what made me think of it

flashgnash,

From reading this that’s not the whole story. Someone working at canonical successfully made a version of snap that could use alternative stores, but the default version does not allow it

And honestly at the point of installing that modified version you may as well just install a different package manager anyway

flashgnash,

Might I suggest NixOS best package manager out there imo

flashgnash,

So either go to lemmy flooded with tankies or go to blue sky flooded with furries

Switched to Linux, don't know what to do

Hello everyone, I just installed Linux (I’m new to it), in particular Linux Mint, with dual booted Windows for games. Tinkered with it a bit, loved the way it looked, loved how fast it is, but I really don’t want to stop on one option and stick with it for a while. I want to try new stuff, new distros (that’s how you call...

flashgnash,

Just gonna drop this here incase you need it as it confused me to begin with

Kernel = core of Linux, pretty much every distro uses the same kernel and it’s got a lot of stuff built in (drivers, some command line utilities, etc)

Distro - built ontop of the kernel, the main parts that differentiate them are:

The package manager (how you install software, probably the most important part when picking a distro)

The desktop environment (the system UI, essentially just another program on Linux so it can be swapped out for another one if you fancy a change)

(There are also things called window managers which are basically just stripped down versions of desktop environments that tend to be far more DIY but also more customisable)

And the preinstalled packages, which for the most part are the same on most popular distros, plus with things like snap, flatpak and appimage dependencies are much less of an issue anyway

If you have any experience with programming and want to try something new and interesting I would recommend giving NixOS a go, your entire system is defined by one configuration file (you can split it into multiple files, but you decide how to do that)

Makes understanding and building a system so much simpler and saner, all the advantages of arch with none of the elitism

flashgnash,

They make some nice hardware, if money were no object I’d probably get a MacBook and put Linux on it

flashgnash,

NixOS. You can change DE by editing a couple lines in your config, running sudo nixos-rebuild boot and rebooting

flashgnash,

Yes it is an absolute luxury to use

Have to use Ubuntu for work servers and apt is such a faff to work with compared to nix

flashgnash,

If you absolutely must use windows for whatever reason you can actually get it pretty good with WSL, Windows Terminal, FancyWM, autohotkey and scoop

That said windows updates still suck, stuff still takes several working days to open and you’re still being spied on

flashgnash,

Problem is companies don’t care about making their games efficient, they care about keeping production costs down

As long as it’s efficient enough to run on medium settings on the average consumer’s machine they won’t put any more resources towards improving it

Optimising them requires expensive developer time that probably won’t affect their sales proportionally (realistically do most people really not buy games just because they can’t run them on max settings?) And they’ve already got the eye candy for their trailers that consumers can technically achieve so they don’t bother

flashgnash,

Don’t valve release 3D models of all their parts to make it easier to swap them out/make your own?

flashgnash,

I don’t think deckard is confirmed to be anything yet is it? All just theorising afaik

flashgnash,

All I’m saying is when it comes to valve I think the best thing is just to sit right and see, they might not even release it

flashgnash,

On everything but the steam deck people are running their own choice of distro. You can’t even install steamos on a non steam deck right now

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