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ericbomb,

Where in the WORLD did you hear that bit of propaganda?

agriculturefairnessalliance.org/…/2020-farm-subsi…

scet.berkeley.edu/…/CopyofFINALSavingThePlanetSus…

www.aier.org/…/the-true-cost-of-a-hamburger/

ewg.org/…/usda-livestock-subsidies-near-50-billio…

I can’t even find any source saying more money is spent on any crop than on beef. It seems like it’s totally made up. The numbers vary because it’s hard to pin down, but I can’t find a source saying anything besides “most subsidiaries go towards beef and dairy”

ericbomb,

Oh yeah I 100% spend less on food as a vegetarian, because black beans/lentils are such wonderful cheap sources of protein.

But sometimes I want like the premade like meat crumbles or burgers, and those cost more usually.

ericbomb,

I mean a pound of beef costs $4.

A pound of raw lentils like a $1.

Lentils are more calorie dense.

Lentils are more protein dense.

Black beans are in similar camp.

Rice and wheat products are cheaper per calorie, but lack the protein.

So yeah, it’s just cheaper to be a vegetarian, even with massive beef subsidiaries. But veggie patties are still more expensive because of processing and they are smaller batches.

ericbomb,

I think you should read more carefully what that chart is showing.

Corn for example is purple and gray mostly.

Purple = live stock feed gray = biodiesel

Soy is mostly purple, so most of it goes towards feeding live stock.

So most of the subsidiary is just being spent to make it cheaper to raise live stock.

ericbomb,

You are correct, because barely any actually goes to corn we eat. Those subsidies exist just to make it cheaper to raise live stock. So while direct subsidies are higher for corn, it’s so high purely to help raise live stock. Just because we “can” eat corn doesn’t really impact the fact that we aren’t, it’s mostly live stock eating the corn the subsidies are paying for (And biofuel)

ericbomb,

Oh well yes.

If it wasn’t obvious I’m a raging vegetarian. Just annoying.

ericbomb,

I don’t think you understand what class warfare is.

The fact that it’s co-opted by rich people as trying to convince you that environmental disasters they cause is your problem doesn’t change any points made by actual vegans, or the fact that it’s far far cheaper. Even with all the subsidies given out, a pound of black beans/lentils has more calories/protein than a pound of beef, and will cost 1/5 the price. Sure if I want to splurge and buy a premade veggie burger it’s more expensive, but generally it’s just way more affordable.

ericbomb,

No laws against it, but I’m just curious if I’m angering the faster and more athletic folks!

ericbomb,

True! But I would assume you are passing me on the passing side, so I just do it so that way you can pass me by being in the bike lane, while I go more towards the sidewalk.

But yeah going against traffic in bike lane is cringe.

ericbomb,

Oh more like I slow down to walk on sidewalk if bike lane traffic is too much.

ericbomb,

Ew that just would feel so wrong. Maybe it’s mostly people that never drove? I actually got rid of my car in favor of e scooter cause where I go is super close and it’s nice not owning a liability.

ericbomb,

True!

The bike lanes are… not impressive around here and often missing from where I most need them.

But the ones I do have were probably fought for by the bike riders.

ericbomb,

There is a specific place I use sidewalk, but I always go slower and go onto street or walk by pedestrians.

The road is just super busy and nowhere to possibly be on road.

ericbomb,

15 is the max for this little one!

ericbomb,

Haha well I feel less goofy than having a dumb car.

I do not like cars. Glad I got rid of my car and feel much happier with my scooter.

ericbomb,

I sold my car and have been rocking an escooter recently!

Hopefully I don’t drive the faster bikes too crazy when I use the bike lane. But the sidewalks are too bumpy and often times have super over grown trees so feel like I’m gonna die with tree branch into eye.

ericbomb,

Do… do you really think US born vegetarians who became one later in life didn’t eat any bacon before becoming vegetarians? I was fed meat every day.

ericbomb,

ok, I won’t think of you at all after clicking reply. Think of me.

ericbomb,

Funnily enough I may own that one…

ericbomb,

So you’re supposed to do 50-30-20 Meaning 50% on needs 30% on wants 20% investing

You might be thinking “Ericbomb, how does one keep their needs below 50%, when the median rent in the US is $2,000, and median household income after taxes/withholdings is near 40k?”

Wonderful question!

ericbomb,

That game was not fair, so that’s valid.

ericbomb,

Oh I didn’t play that until i was an adult, but that sounds like a nightmare as a kid without guides…

ericbomb,

You mean 10 year old you wasn’t able to tell when the solution to a puzzle was to do the puzzle wrong, get some information/piece of gear, then go back in time and do it properly with the new resources?

Or be able to tell when the reason you couldn’t make progress was because you were supposed to show up on day 1 at noon, not day 2? Or because to be able to do a quest on day 3, you needed to do something on day 1?

Like it’s a wonderful wonderful time travel game. Without a guide I don’t understand how far anyone could have gotten.

ericbomb,

Oh yeah some of those AOE2 campaigns were WAY too hard as a kid.

I play aoe2 now days and got considerably good, but there were a few where you basically just wanted to win via save scumming. Aoe2 DE is amazing and if you haven’t checked it out it’s worth looking at!

ericbomb,

I’ve beaten all of them on hard.

Lemme tell you, there is no borderline. They are bullshit and you must embrace the bull shit to win.

I remember one specific campaign I was stuck until I had the thought to tc drop the ai then won.

Then there was one where you had to like escort 5 different transport ships from the edge of the map to your base, and before each wave came you had to speed run to make a path. I saved after each successful wave so wouldn’t have to start over after each fail.

Another one was like “no castles or walls allowed! This is about army” but they didn’t block building bombard towers, so…

ericbomb,

I mean I guess same with rim world and mound and blade warband 😅

But cmon now. All those games have a way to win, but winning isn’t the point!

Mine craft is pretty similar where if someone says they have played 1k hours and never killed the ender dragon it’s not like a skill issue. Just an inclination issue.

ericbomb,

Oh man I bet! Especially for the ones that had to be done on day 3 with no speed up mechanic.

ericbomb,

If I had thought of your method, I would have done that.

The save scumming method was painful. That mission broke me… and is also what I suggest to people do as a joke to mess with people.

ericbomb,

Eragon never got a movie.

Atla never got a movie

These things are true.

ericbomb,

I mean are you judging it as the target market?

It was a young adult book. I refer to it as baby’s first high fantasy.

Do 8-12 year old boys that will love super long high fantasy later in life probably still love it? I would bet money.

But of course as adults we look down on the young adult book. Basically all young adult books seem not well made as adults.

I know a handful of exceptions, but they stand out in my head as remarkable because they were exceptions.

ericbomb,

Oh dang I legit posted her og one like 2 days ago on a whim.

Pretty good follow up! She isn’t buckling down as much as Caleb wants, but her spending is below her income which is a great start.

ericbomb,

Someone is renting out a duplex by me for $2700 a month.

I hope it crashes and burns so they have to sell at a heavy loss for the crime of trying to rent out just a normal home for so much.

Like this was supposed to be the affordable part of town with small homes, town homes, and condos. Now investors are like… what if revenue stream?

ericbomb,

Just the fact that no one can afford housing any more, and lots of folks bought property to rent out at this super high rate, so to not lose money they have to rent out homes for like 2k+ for small rentals.

So the most likely way, if it all, is all the rental properties are forced to go on market at the same time, and then they don’t get sold so get foreclosed on.

ericbomb,

Ain’t that the truth.

I live in Orem, a city you probably have never heard of. Population of under 100k, not a rich city by any means. Median individual income of 26k, median household income of 65k.

There are no single family homes for sale under 400k, and all apartment/condos for sale are 300k.

Just picking a random apartment for sale for a little under 300k and doing an estimate of 10% down with current rates is a mortgage of 2.2 k a month on 30 year fixed. So of course whoever buys and rents these out are going to do so at AT LEAST that number.

With JUST taxes taken out of 65k bringing it down to 45k, the mortgage/rent alone would be well over half the median house hold income for these things. But of course there would be HOA, withdrawals for 401k, withdrawals for medical care, etc. Meaning it would probably be closer to 70% of median household net just to pay mortgage on the cheapest apartment for sale.

And of course we can repeat this exercise for just about any city and get the same result. It’s scary.

ericbomb,

Howdy neighbor! Fingers crossed it comes down, I know parts of SLC are becoming a nightmare to rent. So hopefully you have a safe and cheaper place to live.

ericbomb,

I mean we had those same situations, and we still had the collapse of the housing market in 2008 in the US, because everyone defaulted on loans at once on overinflated houses, then houses shot back to proper value. Losing an estimated 25% value.

So it just feels like that might happen, because housing prices are soaring and interest rate is so high. So I mean, if it happened once in similar situation, it doesn’t seem unreasonable to say it might happen again.

ericbomb,

It would ruin our equity. So no selling or refinancing for awhile.

It would mostly hurt people selling, renting, renovating, and building homes.

ericbomb,

If I hadn’t bought my house at what turned out to be a steal at 240k with low interest 4 years ago I would be looking at like 50k middle of nowhere properties. If it has even a broken down house there with plumbing/electricity then it would mean that a trailer would hook up nice.

I hope you are able to save up for a nice tiny home away from cost of living nonsense with good internet!

ericbomb,

I was looking at that and it’s so annoying how many cities ban living on property you own like that.

Cause honestly everyone living in trailers on bits of property until land lords get foreclosed on feel like our best bet. But so many places are like nooo you gotta live in a 500k house. We would rather the lot be empty than you have a little camper trailer you live in on it.

ericbomb,

You are probably in a different tax bracket than us.

The median house hold income is 60kish in the US. Meaning half of all households make less than that.

2k for rent or 3k mortgages just isn’t doable. But that is the only thing availabe for most of us. The math can’t work with taxes, insurance, and utilities. Children right now is a poverty sentence for 50% of Americans.

And “make more money” can’t work for everyone. The median is 60k per household, meaning 10s of millions of people would need to find much higher paying jobs to be able to deal with this. But that’s not possible, there are not 10s of millions of 80k+ jobs just sitting around.

ericbomb,

When people can’t even afford 2K rent, there are no games to play. Median house hold income is 60k After taxes that’s closer to 40k. When rent alone is 24K, there are no games to play, no moves to be made. The math doesn’t work. 2K isn’t me over exaggerating, it’s median.

www.rent.com/research/average-rent-price-report/#….

Then you’re supposed to put 6% into your 401k, then how ever how much for medical insurance , then cost for car insurance ,gas… where is money for food? Where is the 20% for investing for retirement? The basic of budget is 50,30,20. You’re not supposed to spend more than 50% of your income on “needs”, yet the median rent is more than 50% of the median after tax household income.

All those tricks are just putting the debt ahead into the future. That only works if you think you’ll be making more in the future, but wages have been super stagnant.

You can’t play games when rent requires more than half your income.

I own my home, life is fine, I’m fine. But try to do the math, try to make it work. For 60k gross pay and 24k yearly rent, explain how to make it work, how to save up the 10% down for a house and save for retirement.

ericbomb,

Cost of living, rent, and taxes are all lower in Australia than US on average. Also median income is higher in Australia.

And where did you live? Did you have room mate or live with family?

ericbomb,

And what was your rent?

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