UnanimousStargazer

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UnanimousStargazer,

No, this is the most serious lacking feature IMO.

But you could of course simply register your username at multiple instances and subscribe to the same communities. As there’s no ‘followers’ like on Mastodon, the effect is the same.

UnanimousStargazer,

So, now instances are hosting posts and comments that a user deleted on another instance. But that user has no way to ‘re-delete’ the OP and comment.

Now what?

I guess the instances might cross check the existence of OPs and comments on other instances, but the longer this problem exists, the larger the problem.

UnanimousStargazer,

Timmermans is a very important candidate in The Netherlands that is having snap elections in November after prime minister Rutte finally decided to not run for his party once more after thirteen years of neoliberal governments.

It’s an ideal moment for Timmermans to switch, because waiting until EU elections would mean he could not participate in the upcoming elections in The Netherlands.

That would likely mean the neoliberal VVD or farmer’s party BBB would become largest and might even form an (extreme) right wing coalition just like happened in in several member states.

It’s probably better for the EU that Timmermans switches now.

UnanimousStargazer,

I think the chances are significant that Timmermans becomes prime minister (The Netherlands is a Kingdom and has no president like France).

A Dutch prime minister usually is an elected member of parliament that is a member of the political party that received the most votes. The reason is that the largest party has the first chance to form a coalition and the largest party gets to appoint the prime minister if a coalition is formed. In theory an outside person might also be appointed prime minister, but that has never happened in history.

Yes, division of the political landscape is a problem in The Netherlands as well, but the new right wing farmer’s party has more left wing social standpoints than the more conservative right wing party of current prime minister Rutte. The farmer’s party is mostly upset about environmental changes that are required due to nitrogen deposition caused for about 50% by livestock. Timmermans already had a meeting with the farmer’s party leader in his role as EC commissioner and that didn’t result in some enormous backlash of problems. So that might be a sign the farmer’s party is open for negotiation about nitrogen, as long as farmers aren’t squeezed into a tight and speedily process to reduce nitrogen emissions. Timmermans is very knowledgeable about the topic and can probably work out some scheme where both benefit somehow.

The other reason why this is the time for Timmermans to leave the EC and try to become prime minister is that the green party and Timmermans’ social democrat party have decided to run with one joint election list with candidates and (as we know as of today) Timmermans as leader.

Many people think Rutte’s party will finally not be largest after all these years, but indeed, that still doesn’t mean it’s easy to form a coalition.

UnanimousStargazer,

If you start your own server, you moderate yourself.

Whether others want to federate with your server is up to them.

UnanimousStargazer,

You don’t need to allow other people on your server.

What are up votes (uplemmies?) actually for?

Obviously, most social networks have some sort of engagement button for liking/up voting/promoting a piece of content. As well as helping users feel like they’re participating, rather than just passively consuming, most networks also use the likes/ups to filter or promote content to other users....

UnanimousStargazer,

This is a good question, because it never gets a proper answer.

I think most people consider it a way to approve or disapprove an OP or comment, but it’s completely unclear why.

Let’s say you post an OP about basketballs in the community!basketballsarecool@someinstance. If your OP describes all the cool things about basketballs, you’ll receive upvotes. If your OP describes basketballs are useless, you’ll receive downvotes. And it probably will be the reverse in the community!basketballsareuseless@someinstance.

Lemmy could at least stand out if the development community would remove downvotes. It’s an unnecessary polarizing passive aggressive way to disagree with somebody, that leads to all kinds if unnecessary negative emotions.

But it would be even better if the whole upvote / downvote system can be disabled. You don’t know who is upvoting / downvoting and what does it say?

UnanimousStargazer,

Really? Didn’t know that was possible but it’s great to hear that.

UnanimousStargazer,

Dutchie here.

It’s pretty clear Rutte deliberately caused the collapse by suddenly demanding a new type of asylum policy where a limited number of children could join their parent who found refuge in The Netherlands.

Rutte knew perfectly well at least one of the coalition parties would never accept that and the other two were very skeptical about it. Ultimately, Rutte forced them to agree or disagree by stating the ministerial council would vote about it (and that is very uncommon for a coalition that works on the basis of trust). Beside that, there are way more important issues at hand now, like the nitrogen and housing crisis. And of course climate change. But no, Rutte (provably by incentive of his electorate) suddenly made this a major issue. Mind you: the number of people asking for asylum in The Netherlands this year is around 20.000 up until now and that’s a normal number. No crowds of people seeking asylum to be seen.

So what is this all about? Rutte’s party (the VVD) probably concluded this is the right time to have new elections in order to try and have the VVD become the largest party. Because the largest party usually gets to say who becomes prime minister. And hey, what a surprise, that’s likely Rutte (again).

It’s a setup and everybody and his mother knows it. Rutte is trying to create a new coalition where he can become prime minister again. And he set this up in such a way that migration suddenly is a major issue, where in fact it’s other topics that are much more important.

But it’s not at all sure the VVD will win IMO. The new farmer’s party BBB won the provincial elections by a landslide and I wouldn’t be surprised they will become the largest party. Not that that’s a good outcome IMO, because the BBB often tries to downplay the nitrogen crisis. But my estimate is that most people will decide that the BBB is better than yet another round of Rutte.

UnanimousStargazer,

The EU member states agreed to conserve natural habitats in the nineties. This resulted in what is called the habitat directive.

Every member state should aim for a certain target, but it’s up to the member states to decide upon that target. For example, countries with a large logging industry will provably aim for a certain amount of conservation of forests. But that will inevitably conflict with the logging industry in one way or another.

The Netherlands has an extremely large livestock industry that exports 80% (eighty) to abroad. But cows and pigs also produce large amounts of manure, which cannot be exported. And manure is a source of nitrogen, which damages nature if deposited in high amounts. It’s like over-fertilizing your lawn, by doing it every day. After a while, only the grass and certain nitrogen seeking plants will,flourish, but all other ground live and plants will perish.

The past governments have mostly ignored that up until now because of the export, but environmentalists started litigated in court claiming the government isn’t following the EU directive. In 2019, the highest administrative court suddenly decided enough is enough and ruled no permits could be issued that add more nitrogen to nature.

So as off 2019, the government is busy reducing nitrogen where they can. For example, it’s not allowed to drive any faster than 100 km/h on most highways where it used to be 130 km/h. But also building permits are restricted, because building leads to building traffic and more nitrogen deposition. The same goes for air traffic, which also grew way out of hand as the government tried to establish that Schiphol airport would become the main airport hub in the EU.

So now the biggest challenge of Rutte’s government is reducing nitrogen deposition, which by far the farmers with livestock are mostly responsible for. But just as the logging industry dislikes certain forest conservation policies, farmers started protesting that they ‘suddenly’ couldn’t proceed keeping livestock.

And to be fair, they were allowed that for years simply because governments didn’t want to take the decision when the problem was small. But that’s obviously the sane for governments with regard to climate change. It’s much easier to downplay the problem or agree you will take action ‘in the future’. But this was exactly what was agreed in the EU in the nineties. But not followed up on.

Enter the farmer’s party BBB, who now won in large majorities across the provinces by opposing Rutte’s government and in part downplaying nitrogen deposition.

But yet, Rutte suddenly came up with migration as the biggest ‘problem’. Except that it isn’t but the BBB is difficult to argue with if you want to win elections. Abd that’s probably why Rutte and his campaign team worked out they are suddenly pushing migration as the major electoral problem, so they can try and circumvent the BBB.

UnanimousStargazer,

You’re welcome.

Dutch parliament planned to go on leave the coming weeks as off today, but they returned to debate today about the collapse of the government.

The opposition has asked for Rutte to resign immediately considering his role in the collapse of the government, which was the direct result of Rutte asking a christian coalition party to refuse children of asylum seekers to be joined with their parent. It was clear upfront the christian coalition party would never accept that, after which the government collapsed.

If Rutte doesn’t resign, a motion of distrust will probably be filed during the debate. If it’s backed by a majority, it’s exit Rutte. The question thus becomes if the christian coalition party that was confronted by Rutte will support the motion of distrust.

UnanimousStargazer, (edited )

Rutte announced he will leave politics when a new cabinet is installed following elections (probably as of beginning 2024).

I think Rutte counted his blessings, understood he will receive a motion of distrust if he didn’t announce he will leave and thus announced to leave.

reuters.com/…/dutch-pm-rutte-faces-no-confidence-…

UnanimousStargazer,

Rutte wil not be electable coming elections and announced to leave politics when a new cabinet has been formed.

reuters.com/…/dutch-pm-rutte-faces-no-confidence-…

UnanimousStargazer,

A close cousin of Lemmy is Mastodon. If you consider Lemmy a federated version of Reddit, then Mastodon is a federated version of Twitter.

The largest Mastodon server is probably Truth Social, on which former president Trump posts his messages after being banned from Twitter.

Truth Social uses the same protocol as Mastodon of Lemmy: ActivityPub. The difference: the Truth Social administrators blocked the Truth Social server from sending out messages to or receiving messages from other servers. So it’s a private Mastodon.

Bottom line: if you run your own Lemmy server you can block whatever server you want or none at all. And others can block your server if they want. If you create ab account at somebody else’s Lemmy server, the administrator can decide to block other Lemmy servers.

If you use a Mastodon account, it’s very easy to migrate to another server including your followers. Lemmy accounts do not appear to offer that functionality (yet?), but I expect a migration tool will be created in the future. So if an administrator decides to block another Lemmy server, but you don’t like that, you might easily move to another server. As of yet, you can’t however and need to create an account on another Lemmy server.

UnanimousStargazer,

Copy/paste from a comment I happened to have submitted a few minutes ago.

From a functionality perspective there is no difference. I’m registered to a Dutch server with this account and can comment on all OPs that are visible to me.

The administrator of a server (domain or instance) can block other servers (domains or instances) however. So if Meta not only starts it’s own Twitter-like platform, but also it’s own Reddit-like platform, it could be that administrators block access to the Meta server.

The best example for Mastodon (which uses the same federation protocol as Lemmy) is the Truth Social platform on which former president Trump publishes his posts. The administrators of Truth Social blocked access to all other servers on the fediverse, so Truth Social doesn’t federate at all. And I presume administrators of many other servers block access to Truth Social.

So from that aspect, you might think through on what server you register. Might the administrator block access to certain servers? Do you want that or not? etc.

But you can also take location into consideration with regard to legal questions. I personally do not want to register on a server in certain countries if for example the GDPR is not enforceable.

UnanimousStargazer,

Which, by the way, is also a great way to verify certain people. If a Lemmy account is registered on a server with a domain that is owned by a large broadcast company for example, it’s easy to check whether the user of that account is who that person claims to be.

The municipality of Amsterdam set up their own Mastodon server registered to amsterdam.nl, so it’s clear their Mastodon posts are genuinely from the municipality without any external verification schedule. If the mayor would want to post herself, she could simply get an account on that server and everybody knows it’s genuinely her.

UnanimousStargazer,

But it’s still pretty amazing to me: it’s like using Twitter or Instagram to read and reply to Reddit!

It’s probably amazing because everybody is used to social media platforms blocking access to and from other platforms. The point of these commercial platforms is to reel in as many users as possible and keep them in the ecosystem. No export possibilities, no federation or standard protocol.

It’s like a large company inventing e-mail and not allowing people to e-mail to an e-mail address registered to another domain. Nobody would think that’s logical, but most have grown accustomed to commercial social media locking every account in.

UnanimousStargazer,

I doubt a slow responsiveness has to do with wefwef.

Your account appears to be registered to lemmy.world. Might that be the reason why the past week was slow?

UnanimousStargazer,

I mean that Lemmy feels like Reddit on a slow content week

Check. That’s true.

UnanimousStargazer,

From a functionality perspective there is no difference. I’m registered to a Dutch server with this account and can comment on all OPs that are visible to me.

The administrator of a server (domain or instance) can block other servers (domains or instances) however. So if Meta not only starts it’s own Twitter-like platform, but also it’s own Reddit-like platform, it could be that administrators block access to the Meta server.

The best example for Mastodon (which uses the same federation protocol as Lemmy) is the Truth Social platform on which former president Trump publishes his posts. The administrators of Truth Social blocked access to all other servers on the fediverse, so Truth Social doesn’t federate at all. And I presume administrators of many other servers block access to Truth Social.

So from that aspect, you might think through on what server you register. Might the administrator block access to certain servers? Do you want that or not? etc.

But you can also take location into consideration with regard to legal questions. I personally do not want to register on a server in certain countries if for example the GDPR is not enforceable.

UnanimousStargazer,

Which, by the way, is also a great way to verify certain people. If a Lemmy account is registered on a server with a domain that is owned by a large broadcast company for example, it’s easy to check whether the user of that account is who that person claims to be.

The municipality of Amsterdam set up their own Mastodon server registered to amsterdam.nl, so it’s clear their Mastodon posts are genuinely from the municipality without any external verification schedule. If the mayor would want to post herself, she could simply get an account on that server and everybody knows it’s genuinely her.

UnanimousStargazer,

Voyager is extremely impressive for what it is - webapp

It’s not only a webapp anymore, but also available as native app now

UnanimousStargazer,

Voyager is now available as a native app in the app/play store

UnanimousStargazer,

I might be mistaken, but didn’t Twitter run out of server space because they decided to not continue their contract with Google?

Do you feel that there's a lack of discussion on Lemmy on stuff besides the current Reddit and Twitter controversies?

I’ve been on Beehaw and Lemmy.world for the past two weeks now and while people seem to be posting content that isn’t about Reddit or Twitter or how great federated platforms are, such content does not receive as many comments/discussion as topics about the Reddit API controversy, or the current Twitter controversy, etc....

UnanimousStargazer,
  • Install the wefwef app (optional)
  • Click the Posts icon at the bottom
  • Choose ‘All’

That way, you’ll see all posts on the fediverse and not just the posts in your subscribed communities or the local communities (registered at your instance).

kurgal, to RedditMigration

Is there a way to upload multiple images on kbin? Similar to how you would do it for Reddit?

#RedditMigration

UnanimousStargazer,

Keep in mind you are probably using server space by uploading multiple images at once, that others pay for. Is there a reason why you want to upload many images at once?

UnanimousStargazer,

I completely agree with that. But as of now, keep in mind there are no professional Lemmy or Mastodon instances that generate money by advertisement AFAIK. Which means it’s all donations and volunteering.

So if Lemmurs/Lemmonians (what do you call a Lemmy user?) start uploading large amounts of data, that will cost bandwith and server space.

But you’re also right that Lemmy needs content to become attractive. My comment was mostly a warning or heads up.

UnanimousStargazer,

Same problem with feddit.nl

But the password does work if I use the wefwef.app.

UnanimousStargazer,

It’s pretty good, but lacking at least one very fundamental possibility:

You cannot comment on another comment with wefwef You cannot downvote a comment

UnanimousStargazer,

You need to swipe to comment on a comment apparently.

But how do you delete a comment?

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