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Treevan,
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That’s true but the person that wrote this article definitely knows about that.

What is happening in Australia is that Councils are becoming very risk-averse and planting small trees only, usually within the range of 5-8m high (16-26ft). While he writes about a lot of things, I guess he is trying to make it easy on the general public and Councils to decide that maybe some big trees aren’t all bad and scary. Spotteds are quite iconic so if people are made familiar and comfortable maybe they may get used more in urban settings.

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Probably none? The problem is that the way we design urban spaces doesn’t lend themselves to large trees and Eucalyptus are stupidly large sometimes. If they had planted TPZ/vegetation strips /exclusion zones underneath then they would be doable.

Your climate is different to mine and probably has Winter rains, E.camaludensis doesn’t occur for us. Out of all the urban Eucs, the Spotted are probably the safest where we are. Their branches are mostly inconsequential, straight bole etc. Bifurcation failures can be a problem but that’s a maintenance issue usually. It seems like Corymbia maculata (we have C.citriodora) will likely grow for you as it is in cultivation in locales similar to what you describe outside of its range. It does die suddenly for us but we have a “live fast, die young” climate.

Our big avenues that I’ve seen are C.citriodora/maculata, Araucaria cunninghamii (Hoop Pine), Flinderia australis, Agathis robusta. These fit the large, straight style with F.australis being a little wider. Beaches have A.heterophylla/A.columnaris (Norfolk Island and Cook Pine). You probably want to speak with a South Australian or Victorian. Greg Moore is in Victoria.

I just went and cut some trees in a local plot and they have E.cloeziana. I took a weird panorama and you can see how ‘safeish’ the form is and it self-prunes (none have ever died or failed in the lot):

https://aussie.zone/pictrs/image/53ec1285-e4ff-498c-91e6-7404f73aa777.jpeg

They mention cultivars with stronger branches–can I read more about that somewhere?

It’s the first I’ve heard of it and I was going to go looking. I was involved with some dwarf Eucalyptus plantings back in the say and not sure where that ended up. Probably a PBR (Plant Breeder’s Rights) somewhere in a fancy nursery. There is an individual with the largest collection of Eucalyptus in Australia, I’ll see if he has any articles up. Problem is, most of it is locked behind FB these days especially when you have a VPN like I do.

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Let’s find out more about the situation.

You’ve got access to land for regeneration? And with that, you’re going to plant tree species onto that land. You are going to pick mostly endemic species, and the planting will be diverse.

Of the endemic species, will you be provenancing them from distant locales of their range, ones that may match your assumed new climate (or at least be moving that way)?

With the Redwoods, will you be planting enough of them so that they become a Redwood forest ‘ecotype’ or will they be oddities in your forest, just poking their head out here and there?

If they’re present in your area without the issues of bugs/disease, won’t be invasive (to the detriment of all species not the fact that they propagate themselves) or harm aspects of the environment, and you like them - I would do it. I personally have vulnerable species from a long way away as garden oddities and have no issues.

But, if you are going to plant a Redwood forest (with understory) then you probably to have to do some due diligence of untoward impacts. If you are regenerating a bare paddock that isn’t attached to any native areas, I personally believe what you do, with a few caveats, is fine. But without knowing the purpose i.e. how many, final restoration goal etc, it’s hard to say.

I would say though that not doing it and watching climate change destroy large swathes of species (which is already happening, an article from 9 or so days back was a good read), you would be kicking yourself that you didn’t do enough. I’d like to believe that building a mostly endemic forest is the goal but within that forest is a foundation of other species that may be able continue the base ecological functions that are required (erosion, canopy, structure etc) if climate change has aggressive impacts on your area. Yours as an insurance policy for an interesting species is something different again.

Treevan,
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Cheers for the answers. I think it’s a goer.

But, I’d implore you to assess the climatic zone movement that may occur (which was alluded to) and make sure your endemic/native plants have some insurance against that.

I wouldn’t take the advice of a nursery, I’d be trying to find studies from ecologists and climate experts and see what they are suggesting as possibilities.

Good luck with the invasives! I do that for work and it’s one of the hardest jobs I’ve ever had, naughty plants are fucking relentless.

Treevan,
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You’ll need a local expert in techniques for those particular weeds. For example, we have developed techniques for certain weeds but if I look those weeds up, not one technique will be listed; they’re usually generic and written by people that have never done the work. And these people are sure they know everything.

But the idea you have is right, if the weed allows you to do that. Sometimes, depending on the weed, you literally can’t plant anything back in because the weed is hard to remove and doing that makes it even harder. I would consider, without knowing anything about your ecology; grasses and sedges (possibly ferns) are usually a good option as they have fine, fibrous roots, are cheap to propagate, easy to mass plant, and grow relatively quickly. Maybe you have some pioneering trees (native or exotic) that you can remove later, quick growers that are easy to kill or succeed out once you’ve got the weed out of there.

Conservationists race to save critically endangered insect found in the River Dee in Wales (www.buglife.org.uk)

Staff at the conservation zoo, renowned for its work to bring species back from the brink, were called in by fellow charity Buglife Cymru to start an emergency breeding effort for the Scarce Yellow Sally Stonefly - part of a rescue mission to save the species from extinction following its rediscovery in the River Dee, North...

Treevan,
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Austria? Well, then. G’day mate! Let’s put another shrimp on the barbie!

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Can anyone say what the pre-clearing natural state of the area was?

Treevan,
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The study is open access.

Abstract:

Nano-/microplastics accumulate in aquatic bodies and raise increasing threats to ecosystems and human health. The limitation of existing water cleanup strategies, especially in the context of nano-/microplastics, primarily arises from their complexity (morphological, compositional, and dimensional). Here, highly efficient and bio-based flowthrough capturing materials (bioCap) are reported to remove a broad spectrum of nano-/microplastics from water: polyethylene terephthalate (anionic, irregular shape), polyethylene (net neutral, irregular shape), polystyrene (anionic and cationic, spherical shape), and other anionic and spherical shaped particles (polymethyl methacrylate, polypropylene, and polyvinyl chloride). Highly efficient bioCap systems that adsorb the ubiquitous particles released from beverage bags are demonstrated. As evidence of removal from drinking water, the in vivo biodistribution of nano-/microplastics is profiled, confirming a significant reduction of particle accumulation in main organs. The unique advantage of phenolic-mediated multi-molecular interactions is employed in sustainable, cost-effective, and facile strategies based on wood sawdust support for the removal of challenging nano-/microplastics pollutions.

Treevan,
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Oh you, tee hee hee.

Hardly, though. I have an ability to inefficiently find and check websites that are related to Australian environment news and then repost articles to the void.

It’s not much but it’s pointless work.

Treevan,
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And the lack of decay is another point.

Considering the tree, judging by the photo, had escaped logging several times (surrounded by smaller regrowth), it is certainly an odd one.

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theconversation.com/profiles/gregory-moore-1779

theconversation.com/profiles/…/articles

Dr Gregory Moore is/was probably the leading arboricultural person in Australia in an educational role. He has videos online as well.

One can probably find more stuff on Treenet:

treenet.org/resource_author/dr-greg-moore/

treenet.org/…/dr-greg-moore-oam/

Treevan,
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Fascinating picture.

Every tree is precisely where trees don’t normally grow well without some effort.

Perhaps when the landscape designer did the top down view, having trees in the grassed area looked weird.

Treevan,
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Tropical forests are a little hard to bring back to an original state due to the sheer number of species. No nursery can match it. Plus, the degradation means there are a lot of missing connections, most unknown, so restored forests around here always look a certain type of clinical. Improved, but there is always something missing.

We have over 5000 species in our little corner of Australia.

wetlandinfo.des.qld.gov.au/wetlands/…/wildlife/?A…

I believe we have the opportunity to add some diversity but it all depends on what this climate does to us. Lost insects, lost birds, lost mammals, lost vectors for seeds etc. I’ve got a feeling that a lot of forests will simplify over time.

Land clearing remnant vegetation is something that needs to be quite punishable at this point. It’s lost for basically forever.

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Such a strange caption for Lantana from the perspective of a country where it’s horribly invasive.

Lantana does not spark joy.

Does anyone here harvest rainwater?

Up until very recently, I’ve never lived anywhere where I had the space to set up an outdoor garden. I’ve been fortunate to finally own a property where I can, and I’m really enjoying it. So far I’ve set up an 8 x 25 garden plot, planted 4 fruit trees, and have a thriving wildflower garden in front of the house. I have a...

Treevan,
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In Australia, most rural houses have at least 20K litres which is 5K gallons. I know people with over 100K litres.

In suburbia, I had 10K or 2500gal. Ran a small nursery and would go close to empty through drought.

Trust me, more the merrier.

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20K is enough when the weather is good. We have multi-year droughts so it won’t be enough for the house when it’s bad. Cities were down to 140L per day so you can’t rely on municipal always.

With my 10K, all gardening and outside water was tank. A nursery with our heat uses a lot, daily watering.

100K is full off grid with enough to be sure you can get through a drought and maintain outside watering. Ive seen plenty of house with these: …com.au/…/ct25-110000-litre-rain-water-tank-avail…

I would err on the side of caution. We don’t use IBCs because they aren’t UV stabilised. Metal or UV plastic tanks are freely available.

A family of 4 with my larger nursery uses 31K every 3 months, it will get higher when El Nino arrives. I can’t convince kids to have short showers and we have an ultra low flow head.

Treevan,
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No, that’s good. A wooden structure might also be worthwhile, something with a roof and another gutter? Like a lean to. IBCs aren’t made to be permanent, the wall thickness is a fraction of a plastic water tank and can be punctured easily (the cage is why it can be thin). Can you get 200L blue barrels? Daisy chaining them, even a 2x stack is possible, and they are similar to plastic water tanks. Same HDPE, thick walled, UV stabilised, sun not an issue.

Tanks are an investment here. They’re not cheap(ish) but it’s part of the house, a necessary expense even bordering on survival in a way.

I like the transition away from prioritizing comments over questions.

On Reddit, my karma was always weighted more on the question side than on the comment side. I felt bad for not being a valuable contributor to people’s lives rather than being selfish and always asking things for myself. Lemmy has gotten rid of that point system so now I feel like I can feel free to ask as many questions as I...

Treevan,
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Voyager app displays total scores for Lemmy as well.

A new way to search for communities (www.search-lemmy.com)

I keep see people complaining about not being able to find active communities that match their interests. So I’ve added a new feature to www.search-lemmy.com that allows you to search posts for a particular topic and then it tells you which communities have the most posts matching your search query....

Treevan,
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Works well when you notice the “Find Communities” button. I did a search at first and thought it was exactly the same.

I run one small community and I have blasted it with content. Searching some relevant keywords puts it on top, or near top, of every search. Now it’s a race for the more relevant communities to overtake it.

Treevan,
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Sorry, I just deleted that part because I did some further testing and couldn’t be sure if I was imagining it.

You’ve cleared it up. Looks like adding submission statements ranks it higher then. Typing in “biodiversity” ranks it higher than the literal community about “biodiversity” on Mander.

You’ve created an excellent tool, well done.

Treevan,
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search-lemmy.com just added a Find Community feature that works well. Not precisely what you’ve asked but it does match results to a keyword so you can correlate matches with “growing” perhaps.

lemmy.world/post/1605286 for more info

Treevan, (edited )
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Cheers for this. I tried a few of them while I’m waiting around and had one excellent result. I’m a near expert in one topic and I often test AIs against my knowledge for fun.

Perplexity.AI did the best I’ve seen; it sourced its arguments which, finally, weren’t wrong so if I needed to, I could actually learn more about what it was talking about. It’s not 100% but the other AI are so bad at this topic I test it on I always give up immediately.

I wouldn’t have seen it if it wasn’t for this post so thank you very much.

Treevan,
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I had an interesting result.

I proposed a simple question like I did all the other AI with “airoboros-65B-gpt4-1.4-GPTQ for 13 kudos in 369.6 seconds”. It was a bit of a wait, I understand why.

It gave me a word for word comment on what I assume is a blog post from a Melissa. The topic was related, just barely.

Which LLM do you recommend for questions about a subject? I looked in the FAQ to see if there was a guide to the choices.

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I don’t know if anyone will read this but I did further testing on perplexity when I got home. It’s probably not the right spot for it.

I tried a more trickier question and then I chose the available prompts to move forward (it suggests questions related to the original question if you are unsure how to prompt it next). The prompts were intelligent and were probably the next question I would assume I would ask if I were learning about this topic. On the next answer, it literally quoted something I wrote, almost word for word, on the exact subject which, according to me (of course) would be the correct answer.

I’ve never had an AI even reference a single thing I’ve written. I had prompted it into a general area where the things I had wrote existed so it should be expected but it made the connection almost instantly and answered the question 100% accurately.

As much as I hate it, well done Skynet.

Edit: After further testing, I can catch it out regularly enough but still, if I had to tell someone about the topic generally via email, I’d probably recommend it rather than me waste time typing it all out. I’ve just put myself out of a job.

Treevan,
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Thank you. Will do.

I kept playing and tried the scenarios and was getting closer.

Treevan,
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Mine is in plants which a lot of models seem to struggle with. It’s not the science side, it’s the application side so with that, there is another layer of intelligence that the AI has to break through to appeal to me (answer my particular questions).

I tested it again with something even more particular and unique to an Australian plant and it was way off. I think I may have been one of the only people to ever post a particular technique to reddit and the AI mustn’t be searching in there as it didn’t even know about it even when asked directly. To its credit, it did give a good suggestion on who to contact to find out more.

Treevan,
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I think the JPG compression economy is having some issues also. This poor meme looks like it’s a generation old by the wrinkles all over it.

Treevan,
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Do I look like I know what a jpg is?

YSK: If you find an interesting topic/rabbit hole, you can get some real engagement here if you share it. It doesn't get drowned out like elsewhere. (lemmy.world)

I know a lot of lurkers like me out there are browsing, but there’s quite a bit of engagement capitol on the federated instances. If you find an interesting topic and the right community, you get a lot of feedback. There’s not much hate being thrown out there either.

Treevan,
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I’ve posted 240 times to barely any discussion.

This post is a lie.

Treevan,
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Like tears in rain. Time to die.

Treevan,
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Dont I know it. I was being facetious with the comment because I know what these places are like having moved from specific niche forums, watching reddit expand (avoiding Facebook), and then here. I’m also an early adopter to Tildes but decided to not even attempt in there because of the “tech bro (tech person)” problems you’ve illustrated.

Mander and Slrpnk are good instances and busy enough.

I do find it funny seeing these memes about creating content from someone with 6 posts, there’s been a few of them now.

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If I was any where else, it would be there. Maybe one day, won’t rule it out.

Using local on aussie.zone gets me Australian news so I dont need to subscribe to Aus communities which is a bonus. My subscribed just stays my interests so Local and Home are critical to my browsing.

Treevan,
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I’m not bothered by it. Just joking around. I come here for things different from memes.

Stop lying!

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It’s not about being right cause I don’t know what right is. The downvotes tell me if you’re wrong, that’s different. I can then feel safe.

These posts are sarcasm, by the way. Dont start downvoting, people!

Treevan,
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I might try turning off “Scores” in the settings so I can rawdog my feelings onto others posts and comments.

It’s a brave new world.

Edit: Did it. I literally do not know what to think.

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