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ThereRisesARedStar, (edited ) to memes in Lemmy since the reddit collapse

Yes because only nazis oppose a system that does not achieve much other than mass murder leading to authoritarianism.

The British and American empires also led the anti-communist crusade. You’ll note the massive stacks of bodies and constant installation of puppet governments each one is responsible for.

If you think the Soviets weren’t less mass murder-y by a magnitude less than capitalist or monarchist governments you need to learn more about the constant stream of violence that capitalism produces. Even the massively exaggerated death counts of all socialist countries put together by anticommunists pale in comparison to just the British empire.

Also revolutions are the most authoritarian thing in existence. It is literally one class exercising control through physical violence and coercion against the class that has been socially murdering them and oppressing them until they collectively couldn’t take it anymore and were organized enough to fight back.

ThereRisesARedStar, to memes in Lemmy since the reddit collapse

I don’t know, which side are Wagner and Rogozin on?

Okay but can you actually name institutional promotion of nazism? For example publishing celebrations of Bandera, putting the OUN trident on old soviet monuments, funding neonazi run youth camps, etc?

I’m guessing you can’t because while there are certainly Nazi Russians they’ve also tried to suppress any sort of Nazi organizing within Russia. The state is hostile to organized Nazism unlike Ukraine.

To be clear, theyre still a right wing neoliberal hellscape, but it is a low bar to clear and one clears it.

ThereRisesARedStar, to memes in Lemmy since the reddit collapse

a) The legitimate Ukraine government was overthrown in a NATO croup, b) Ukraine government is a neo-nazi government, c) DPR and LPR are legitimate countries and d) NATO started the war in Ukraine. Every single one of those is a Russian state propagated talking point, all of them made around nuggets of facts

So, theyre all Russian talking points but theyre also all supported by evidence?

This is a thing that annoys me about liberal conceptions of bias. Everything is biased, the question is how factual things are.

(like the leaked chat where some US officials were discussing who should or shouldn’t be in the new government)

Yes, this is what we call discussing who should be in the puppet government. You’ll note that they kept the moderate “we should be nuetral between the US and Russia” organizers out and brought the nazis in.

ThereRisesARedStar, to memes in Lemmy since the reddit collapse

That is the thing though, until you abolish class contradictions states are the most effective way of protecting the revolution and suppressing the bourgeoisie. So authority does equal self defense in a real, meaningful way.

ThereRisesARedStar, (edited ) to memes in Lemmy since the reddit collapse

Nah you have someone with a political science degree and a minor in econ. I have talked to many people who seem to have no formal education in the listed fields and refer back to things like breadtube as a valid source.

So the two most “priesthood class of capital” useless degrees lol.

Read Capital, the economics you’ve learned still haven’t grappled with it successfully.

Edit: you claim to have read Marx. Please, tell me how automation connects to the tendency of the rate of profit to drop according to Marx. It’s one of the core parts of his analysis so it should be easy to remember.

ThereRisesARedStar, to 196 in I love Twitter rule

Who owns the “free” press again?

ThereRisesARedStar, to worldnews in McConnell on Ukraine proxy war: "We haven’t lost a single American in this war. Most of the money that we spend, is spent on replenishing weapons, so it’s actually employing people here."[paraphrased]

No, it isnt. We at hexbear say “the illegal and undemocratic dissolution of the Soviet Union was the largest humanitarian disaster of the latter half of the twentieth century” and bemoan the loss for human rights(more notably for women, lgbt people, and ethnic minorities) caused by the destruction of the Eastern block.

What we say is that you have to look at the outcomes of weapon distribution by NATO to Ukraine.

Ukraine just wasted a lot of material on one last big push and they didn’t do squat. The Ukrainian state has exhausted its ability to conduct offensive operations, and attrition in both absolute quantity and in percentage has been on the Russian’s side since the second stage of the war, so what’s going to happen now is that Russia will slowly encroach on the rest of Ukraine until they meet their military and political objectives.

So, do we give them more weapons, make their losing war even bloodier for them and the Russians, or do we accept that they’ve lost, and stop giving the government more time to keep killing conscripts?

ThereRisesARedStar, to worldnews in US and Japan could develop hypersonic missile interceptors together

Not reliably. If it was reliable at any point the US would have used nukes on someone else by now.

ThereRisesARedStar, to worldnews in McConnell on Ukraine proxy war: "We haven’t lost a single American in this war. Most of the money that we spend, is spent on replenishing weapons, so it’s actually employing people here."[paraphrased]

Don’t forget putting the OUN… er… ukrainian trident on that old monument.

ThereRisesARedStar, to worldnews in US and Japan could develop hypersonic missile interceptors together

It isnt reliable. That’s the point. Also, note that it isn’t for ICBMs, but short and mid range BMs.

ThereRisesARedStar, to 196 in I love Twitter rule

I know what the Nazis did thanks.

You sure don’t fucking act like it if your comparing what they did to suppressing fascism.

Yes.

During the protests and not absolutely surrounded by gun wielding guards.

ThereRisesARedStar, to 196 in I love Twitter rule

While this is a true statement it does not follow that preventive actions against people who hold fascist views, but do not act on them, is anyway different what the Nazis did to people.

You know the nazis just killed people on the scale of millions for being Jewish or gay or disabled right? It is not equivalent to suppress nazi rallies and arrest nazi leadership, because they can always stop being nazis, or learn to shut the fuck up about it.

The USSR Politburo only cared about itself. Same with the CCP and the Kim family. These are extractive institutions that are only self serving. They are not beholden to anyone so they have no incentive to care what the people want.

These are just claims. If the USSR politburo cared only for itself, why give regional and ethnic autonomy? Why increase standards of living and give women more rights?

If the CPC cared only about itself why didn’t it just do what the KMT was doing prior to their victory?

Kim was a revolutionary fighting the Japanese. He could have joined the nationalists where self enrichment was more likely if he won. Also, the DPRK implemented even more directly democratic programs than other socialist States. Unions and the state jointly oversaw all medium and large production lines, with supervision from the women’s league among others.

He didn’t get the right to lead from inherently being a great man.

Great man theory isn’t this. Great man theory is analyzing history from the top down, where the personalities of leadership is overly emphasized over structures of power.

The fact Cuba didn’t become like North Korea is great. If Cubans aren’t giving meaningful mechanisms for dissent going forward, they will have little recourse to prevent their government from becoming like the Kim regime.

Yes, I’m glad the US didn’t brutally occupy half of Cuba and then kill twenty percent of Cuba when the other half fought to liberate their country.

You know Cubans are free to criticize their government right? The current president literally walked the streets and talked to protestors recently. Could you imagine a US president going to Minneapolis and talking to BLM protestors in the street?

ThereRisesARedStar, to 196 in I love Twitter rule

Two wrongs don’t make a right. If we go that route we are going to become the thing we are trying to prevent.

No, we will become people who suppress nazis, which is not the same as being a nazi. For an allegory, killing a serial killer in self defense (but before he actually kills you, gasp) does not make you a serial killer.

Rather than a difference in government structure, I would point to a difference in leadership. I personally believe Castro really did believe in socialism and had the best interests of the Cuban people at heart. As great as that is, a system of government that depends on the benevolence of its leaders is not one I want to live under.

So why don’t you believe any of the other leaders believed in socialism?

Also this is great man theory taken to an extreme.

Also I dont know how you can look at any of their government structures and claim that the people were reliant on the benevolence of the leadership.

ThereRisesARedStar, to worldnews in McConnell on Ukraine proxy war: "We haven’t lost a single American in this war. Most of the money that we spend, is spent on replenishing weapons, so it’s actually employing people here."[paraphrased]

Reading those east German men be like “yeah I prefer it now that women have to stay with me for economic reasons, before you had to be like, interesting and care about them or something” really drives it home in a different way too.

ThereRisesARedStar, to 196 in I love Twitter rule

We aren’t in a civil war in America right now. There is no basis to take action against modern fascists outside of the numerous acts of domestic terrorism they commit. Rounding up fascists solely based on their political views make us like the Nazis and is unbecoming of any free society.

People who are trying to start a pogrom on trans people, Jewish people, etc should be prosecuted actually, regardless of whether they’re actually successful. You can’t wait for the nazis to win before you crush them, by that point it will be too late.

Not the USSR, China, or North Korea which is what I was referring to by authoritarian communists.

What about these countries governments are different structurally from Cuba’s government?

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