I think we all can agree that the main thing holding back the growth of kbin and lemmy throughout all of the reddit drama is a lack of accessibility. Kbin and lemmy both capture the spirit of reddit in their style and userbase, but really lack the ease of use that led to millions of people adopting reddit. Looking at the trends,...
I've only been here for a few days and I have already seen an improvement as more users have come in, so I believe it.
And in my view as well, it's neither desirable nor reasonable to expect fedi to totally replace reddit either overnight, or yeah, even ever. The result of centralized social media is Reddit, Twitter, Facebook, and mental illness, divisiveness, and disinformation. The structure has to change, and so do our expectations.
good. hopefully the media can stop pushing this nonsense 24/7. i wonder if the families will pay for the millions of dollars wasted in searching for these selfish idiots? who knowingly signed up for this death trap?
at least emergency services in my area charge idiots for rescues. fuck around in the White mountains and you can end up paying six figures or more for a rescue. which is as it should be. they don't however, charge for legitimate rescues.
This is going to be kbin focused because that's the infra I'm most familiar with, but if any part of this is relevant to Lemmy and other upcoming aggregators it's worth a think too:...
political (extend, embrace, extinguish playbook means standards-setting work will be under threat of an eventual oligopoly);
Bringing over potential 1.2bn users is going to change the landscape. We'll get access to brands, advertising and influencers. New people tend to gravitate towards larger instances and Meta will make sure they market Threads heavily. This will be a huge concern for those that want to see fedi "succeed" (in terms of popularity). Meta doesn't really have to do anything malicious. Just by existing, they'll attract most new people who would have gone to mastodon.social or pixelfeed otherwise.
For me, personally - it's not an concern. I'm fine with instances with far less people. I'm not here to see fediverse "succeed". In my opinion more people isn't the same as successful service. In fact the best communities are just around 150 engaged people discussing the stuff they love. Dunbar's Number is important here. I like high signal with minimal noise. For me, fedi is just that right now. So I'm firmly in the "defederate the shit out of Meta"-camp (also because it's a shit company, with shit people).
privacy (data scraping and surveillance capitalism is a known thing, legal or otherwise);
Meta/whoever can do this already today, and they don't really need much for it. They certainly don't need to develop a whole new service for it. The fedi is full of public APIs. Mining and surveillance is easy to do and hard to detect in federated environment. If someone wants to be malicious, there's really very little we can do to stop them. So apply that to your personal threat model when you post.
But in general I'd like better moderation tools - being able to control where my stuff ends up, how long it lives and what I see in my feeds is a priority for me. Fedi services have been historically very bad with this - we should be better. Mastodon has nice features like auto-delete content based on time, filter incoming messages based on hashtags, words etc - we should have them here on kbin as well.
infrastructure (the full blast of new Threads accounts and the way AP and esp Masto does JSON will mean the perpetual fetching will overwhelm smaller instances)
This is my biggest concern. The ActitivyPub implementations in fediverse are a hot mess of inefficiencies and bloat. Especially at Mastodon. One "viral" toot will generate silly amount of traffic in federation status updates. It's a shitty situation with a potential to "DDoS" small instances or overwhelm them with hosting bills. Especially if the population explodes to +1bn new users suddenly.
A ton of moderators have been making changes to their subreddits' rules (e.g., only allowing certain posts, going NSFW, loosening rules a ton) to protest without getting kicked out. Do you think this strategy of turning a subreddit into shitposts is effective or not?...
I was thinking about the long term perception of these protests, assuming Reddit does not change course… and after the users who are ticked off get bored / leave for other platforms, the protesting will be seen as trolling by more and more of the remaining users. Eventually there wont be majority support within subscribers for these sorts of actions. Perhaps Reddits supposed mod referendum would come into play here.
On the other hand, subreddits were always before beholden to the whims of the mod hierarchy, and there’s no particular need to do anything to the existing subs to resolve these protests. After all, there’s certainly nothing stopping people from creating admin-friendly alternative subreddits. I doubt any subs with clean sweeps of the moderator team will be coming back quite the same as before anyways.
It honestly doesn’t help to tear things down for the users who do want to use Reddit. The people making things worse are only making enemies.
I think it's more an internal civil war between redditors now, since I don't think lot of people who moved to the fediverse options with the intention of making it their new primary social media site feel compelled to participate in shitposting. The ones posting there still are ones who feel strongly attached to reddit and can't let go, since even shitposting is providing content for reddit to further activity on the site. So it's more one community fighting amongst each other.
While I understand that many moderators want to continue the protest, I just don't think this strategy works. It gets news attention, yes, but as I've mentioned, I imagine it generates plenty of ad revenue for Reddit through the increased activity from everyone wanting to check it out. I don't think Reddit minds all that much—it's not like they mind the press from removing moderators.
Instead, I'd rather see moderators use their position to urge people off Reddit and advertise alternatives like kbin, lemmy, & squabbles. Better yet, they could start making plans to make communities there (like how r/blind has established its own lemmy instance).
The individual users should just be leaving, like (presumably most of) the people in this magazine have done. Moderators don't need to shut down subreddits for people to stop support inconsiderate companies.
Spez clearly stated that he was going to follow Elon's playbook, I suppose that includes losing his damn mind and calling anyone that disagrees with him a pedo.
Musk has ties to Epstein and was subpoenaed by the US Virgin Islands in relation to his ties to Epstein. His father married his daughter. Musk called that diver in Thailand a pedo.
Huffman allowed a subreddit which allowed users to post pictures of underage girls to thrive on reddit for years before shutting it down. Reddit hired Aimee Challenor as an admin, despite her defending paedophiles.
The whole site's been rotten to the core for years now. It's a miracle it's lasted this long. I wonder if it'll last much longer, now they're getting rid of volunteers they could blame whenever the media discovered another subreddit full of illegal content which reddit pretended not to know about while profiting from.
The world's shit. The worst of them will likely all become millionaires.
I've been thinking a lot about why I decided to come here and I know it started off as a "they can't make me use their shitty app!" while simultaneously using test apps that crash and navigating less content than Reddit. What is the primary motivation for all of this anymore? Is anger enough of a motivation to keep people away...
I'm thinking about kbin/lemmy here, but my understanding is that every instance has to maintain a copy not just of the magazines/communities it hosts but also every other one its users subscribe to? So in a worst case scenario, the storage requirements would grow in sort of an N-squared fashion, would they not? If all of reddit wound up here, that's a lot of storage.
I guess the idea is that a smaller instance would only have to manage some subset of magazines of interest to its membership. But all it would take would be some bots sneaking in there and subscribing to everything, sort of like the kid who hits every button on the elevator.
I'm not sure what the solution is? I think it's good to have more than one copy of any given magazine/community kicking around in case its host instance goes dark/defederates/whatever. But maybe there is some sort of middle ground? Like perhaps a somewhat torrent-like scheme for backup where instances can contribute as much storage/bandwidth as is realistic for them? I'm not sure how that would work, but you would somehow want to ensure that there are a few redundant copies of every community distributed across all instances. And of course an instance could still go on caching the more active communities for practical reasons.
While changing all of my comments to "fuck u/spez" in PowerDeleteSuite, I kept getting this message from the AutoMod. (media.kbin.social)
"If you build it, they will come" (kbin.social)
I think we all can agree that the main thing holding back the growth of kbin and lemmy throughout all of the reddit drama is a lack of accessibility. Kbin and lemmy both capture the spirit of reddit in their style and userbase, but really lack the ease of use that led to millions of people adopting reddit. Looking at the trends,...
"Debris field" found near Titanic in search for missing sub, U.S. Coast Guard says (www.cbsnews.com)
The sub went missing while carrying five people to the wreckage of the Titanic.
Tracking Lemmy/Kbin Mobile Clients (docs.google.com)
Google Sheet traking Lemmy & Kbin mobile clients. Anyone w/ the link can edit.
The only thing left for me to do on reddit is comment "r/spezresign" on other critical subs, whenever they have a trending post. if you still have an account you might join as well 💪😤 (media.kbin.social)
Vampire Survivors is finally getting couch co-op multiplayer for up to 4 players (www.pcgamer.com)
How do kbin instances (and all aggregator protocols) work to maintain privacy and safety? What can we put up on the roadmap (when there is one)? (Instance members at least; ppl posting on fedi in general) (kbin.social)
This is going to be kbin focused because that's the infra I'm most familiar with, but if any part of this is relevant to Lemmy and other upcoming aggregators it's worth a think too:...
What do you think of subreddits protesting with rule changes (e.g., only allowing John Oliver)? (kbin.social)
A ton of moderators have been making changes to their subreddits' rules (e.g., only allowing certain posts, going NSFW, loosening rules a ton) to protest without getting kicked out. Do you think this strategy of turning a subreddit into shitposts is effective or not?...
Look at this bootlicking BS (media.kbin.social)
European Groups Pile On Pressure For Greater Regulation Of Generative AI (www.forbes.com)
Consumer groups in more than a dozen European countries are calling for urgent government investigations into the risks of generative AI.
Ford CEO says Tesla's Cybertruck is only for 'Silicon Valley people' and he's not threatened by it: 'I make trucks for real people who do real work' (www.businessinsider.com)
Ford's CEO said Tesla's Cybertruck is for "Silicon Valley people" not "real people who do real work."...
MTG Loses It, Calls Lauren Boebert a ‘Little Bitch’ On House Floor: Report (www.rollingstone.com)
Sources tell The Daily Beast that the Georgia congresswoman was furious over Boebert filing a competing impeachment resolution against President Biden
Reddit admins have gone off the deep-end. Banned for "sexual or suggestive content involving minors" (!!!), coincidentally 1 hour after making a critical comment on r/ModCoord (media.kbin.social)
If Reddit phased out 3rd party apps gradually and tactfully, do you think this would have gone the way it has? The Reddit app is terrible, but is it any worse than navigating and learning the fediverse so far? Be honest. (kbin.social)
I've been thinking a lot about why I decided to come here and I know it started off as a "they can't make me use their shitty app!" while simultaneously using test apps that crash and navigating less content than Reddit. What is the primary motivation for all of this anymore? Is anger enough of a motivation to keep people away...