Wildly mistranslated… it’s actually “Palestine, never was, never will be.”
Even Jordan and Egypt refuse these people… and they were Jordanian and Egyptian before Egypt and Jordan tried to murder an encampment of war refugees and Holocaust survivors because they were angry at the United Nations… Multiple times…
Man, looks like they got the guy they were targeting and none of the civilians… This is way cleaner than when HAMAS dropped a bomb on a Palestinian hospital… they ended up killing hundreds of Palestinians…
Hey bud, neither do you… But go ahead and let your bias drive that confirmation. What I see is an insanely precise strike and a bunch of terrorist apologists who will never be happy no matter how insanely precise the IDF conducts it’s operations.
Also that’s the silliest shit I’ve ever heard. A tamir interceptor is designed for the interception of rockets, artillery, and mortars. Just consider what the design of a rocket with such a task specific purpose would need to be designed to do. Think about how it would move, how it would sound, what the warhead is designed to do.
Really think this through please. Because most people here in Lemmy thought the rocket that hit the hospital (which ended up actually being the parking lot) and killed those 900 people (which actually ended up being ~300) was a US JDAM.
You actually believe that a low yield… Maybe 20lb NEW warhead designed for shrapnel dispersal fired at the sky and then malfunctioning and falling back to the ground… Would have the same devastation, velocity, and angle of attack as a missile people reasonably, but still mistakeningly thought was a 500lb NEW Air to Surface JDAM.
You could literally just use your own eyes and go look for videos of what it looks like for the tamir to explode in the air and compare that to the massive incendiary fireball that came from the HAMAS rocket and you would immediately know how insane that theory is.
And then I hope you walk away from that with just a little bit of skepticism and shame because you are guzzling the Kool aid bud.
What the hell do you think war is guy? You new to this? Never seen someone’s leg blown off before? Ever applied a tourniquet?
Guy this is the exact definition of precise. Literally hits one guy in a crowd. Assuming this asshole is in fact HAMAS, then they literally did it with 0 civilian casualties… So you really better ask yourself who you are cheering for here. HAMAS is literally by their own reports still holding completely innocent civilians hostage right now, and I assure you they aren’t just playing Parcheesi with them.
HAMAS started this war by launching tens of thousands of missiles into crowded urban cities intentionally trying to kill civilians.
You can be pro-Palestinian without being pro-HAMAS… Please never forget this. In fact if you are pro Palestinian, you really have to be Anti-HAMAS. HAMAS has literally murdered Palestinians en masse.
Please for the love of all decency, find your way to the middle ground.
I understand where you are coming from, really… And I also appreciate the care that went into crafting your reply with the clear considerations to keep a neutral and rational tone, so I wish to extend the courtesy back.
The major contention I have with your position is that it is only easily justified if it were true that Israel is in fact indiscriminately bombing Palestinians. However the basis in reality to support the indiscriminate claim just doesn’t exist at the current point. In fact the specific video posted here is explicitly contradictory to that argument. Israel has developed military technology beyond nearly every other country in the world in order to precisely and discriminatorily be able to target enemy combatants in civilian dense urban areas. The roof knock bombs that IDF use prior to levelling a structure so that citizens can have time to flee the scene is a prime example as well.
No dude… Nothing like that… Israel has made plenty of mistakes, especially in the past, and this is an extremely complex issue.
To answer your first question in terms of casualty counts. The very first thing is that casualty counts are very commonly over/under inflated, especially during times of conflict. There are many reasons you may want to over inflate or deflate your numbers. But honestly it is really difficult to take casualty rates at face value. Let’s say we take it for what it is and its skewed. Now we run straight into a philosophical conundrum that is probably much to big to effectively argue through on the internet.
Your philosophical position on about a dozen or so moralistic arguments are going to shape your ultimate decision on where you stand in terms of casualty imbalances.
So I will skip all that and give you some of the things that I believe would bring me to your side.
If HAMAS releases all of the remaining hostages and surrenders their leadership to stand trial in a neutral international court, and Israel continues to pursue it’s offensive operations.
If Israel remains present in gaza following the restoration of peace.
This is correct… If there are any Palestinians left after this they will all collectively be safer once HAMAS is eradicated.
And despite all of this, the Palestinians are still safer in Israel than they would be in Jordan or Egypt who would have every man, woman, and child seeking refuge shot at the borders.
True it’s not in production but no one is destroying the chemical weapons stored there, frankly it’s because they are so incredibly dangerous and in poor condition that they cannot be safely handled. The weapons are still there though, all of the various nerve and blister agents and all of their precursory materials.
It’s bizarre you are so smart but don’t really know what you are talking about. I know it’s incredibly difficult to find truth in our media right now (and frankly it doesn’t even matter what political persuasion you subscribe to… They are all full of shit). But still you are buying the narrative hard.
But you should at least take account of first hand knowledge. I was boots on ground in Iraq through the most violent and dangerous times. No we shouldn’t have been there, but it’s not like the lies about WMDs were farfetched… Saddam had stockpiles of chemical weapons and had already produced proven warheads to deliver chemical weapons on various platforms including their infamous SCUD platform.
What exactly is your point then? You think that HAMAS should be allowed to get away with their crimes because by fighting them it would create a second wave?
I’m sorry but not good enough. HAMAS teaches Palestinian children that their greatest achievements in life is to sacrifice themselves in the great jihad. They wrap children in suicide vests and march them around on TV.
Destroying HAMAS is protecting Palestinians. Collateral loss of life is a tragic cost of war… But the mission here is clear… destroy HAMAS, do not let them flee to their rat holes. HAMAS will always attempt to maximize civilian casualties. When will they release the hostages they are holding? These aren’t prisoners of war… They are civilians, non combatants… Why don’t we just start with HAMAS releases the innocent people they have taken hostage?
It’s like you guys are just learning that war is terrible…
People die in wars. Combatants, non-combatants, men, women, children, bystanders, supporters, journalists, doctors, criminals, religious people, atheists.
We don’t want war… It’s bad.
So if you don’t want war, you should conduct massive brutal attacks on civilian populations… Because that’s how you get war.
HAMAS did this… They hold their own women and children at gun point inside of buildings they know Israel is about to strike to maximize the propaganda value out of the strike. The Arab nations refuse to allow Palestinian refugees to enter their countries in order to get them out of the conflict areas. Iran has purposefully financed HAMAS in order to allow it to disrupt the Palestinian Government and prevent any real opportunities for real sustainable peace. HAMAS build hospitals and schools with Iranian money… not to provide for the Palestinian people but to ensure they can wrap themselves in human body armor as they build caches and facilitation networks which is 100% in violation of international law and is not just criminal but utterly despicable.
Meanwhile these groups and countries have never been shy at announcing that their only stated goal is the genocidal ethnic cleansing of Israelis and the destruction of the state of Israel.
Who would have thought that all those years ago when Jordan and Egypt decided to take military action against a displaced refugee encampment all of those years ago that we would be at this point.
Or when they did it the second time…
Or the third time…
It’s unreal that Egypt and Jordan just abandoned their own people in Israel and refuse to allow them to return to the nations they were originally citizens.
It’s like you guys are just learning that war is terrible…
People die in wars. Combatants, non-combatants, men, women, children, bystanders, supporters, journalists, doctors, criminals, religious people, atheists.
We don’t want war… It’s bad.
So if you don’t want war, you should conduct massive brutal attacks on civilian populations… Because that’s how you get war.
HAMAS did this… They hold their own women and children at gun point inside of buildings they know Israel is about to strike to maximize the propaganda value out of the strike. The Arab nations refuse to allow Palestinian refugees to enter their countries in order to get them out of the conflict areas. Iran has purposefully financed HAMAS in order to allow it to disrupt the Palestinian Government and prevent any real opportunities for real sustainable peace. HAMAS build hospitals and schools with Iranian money… not to provide for the Palestinian people but to ensure they can wrap themselves in human body armor as they build caches and facilitation networks which is 100% in violation of international law and is not just criminal but utterly despicable.
Meanwhile these groups and countries have never been shy at announcing that their only stated goal is the genocidal ethnic cleansing of Israelis and the destruction of the state of Israel.
Who would have thought that all those years ago when Jordan and Egypt decided to take military action against a displaced refugee encampment all of those years ago that we would be at this point.
Or when they did it the second time…
Or the third time…
It’s unreal that Egypt and Jordan just abandoned their own people in Israel and refuse to allow them to return to the nations they were originally citizens.
How are you going to just bring facts to this shit fest of propaganda driven bias confirmation? Sure HAMAS’s stated goal is the destruction and genocide of Israel and just committed incredible atrocities… That ain’t going to stop these terrorism apologists from drinking the Kool aid before they even get all of into the cup.
You do realize that an enormous swath of Israelis are of middle eastern descendency… Not to mention from pretty much every other nation in the world.
So since you Americans love to assign colors to people instead of seeing them as people… What color do you think Israelis are?
I will actually take a moment to explain this to you since I feel bad that most of you have had no exposure to the realities of conflict and American media is hardly reputable.
The truth of war is that there are always collateral deaths. This is probably the most important reason why war should be avoided. Until someone creates a magic bullet that can sort combatants from non combatants this will always remain a truth.
If you care for the people you love, you don’t go rape, murder, and behead your neighbor and their children.
The collateral loss of Palestinians is an absolute tragedy. HAMAS combatants fleeing and hiding in civilian populations is the travesty though.
But there are no mental gymnastics here, many islamic groups and Arab nations are on record stating that their absolute goal is the total annihilation of Israel and the genocide of Israelis. Israel has no such message or stance.
If Israel wanted to ensure the genocide of the Palestinians they would have to do nothing more than to expel the Palestinians from their country and to push them to Jordan and Egypt who would shoot every Palestinian at their borders.
Israel is a nuclear power, if it’s aim was genocide then this would have been the shortest war in history.
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In general this would depend on the state… In Minnesota the canvass following the general ballot is used to determine who the states electors are going to be. These individuals represent their districts and are then legally obligated to only vote for candidates that meet eligibility and are on the ballot. So there would need to be a certain threshold of write ins met before he could actually make it to the electors ballots and he would have to submit a proper write in registration form ahead of time… Because those electors are casting votes in representation for their districts they would not be authorized to write in a candidate of their own choosing as they would basically be going completely against their electoral districts clearly defined intentions.
So it’s possible he could even win a fair share of the popular vote but be unable to be even selected as a candidate by the electors as they are legally unable to vote for him unless he is a properly displayed candidate on their ballots.
Super unlikely, but it would depend on how the state’s Supreme Court would decide to uphold its write in registration process following the decision… And also it would probably be petitioned to higher courts who would likely overturn it since it’s extremely dangerous precedent.
There are insanely unhealthy versions of pretty much any diet. I know plenty of vegans who gain weight because they end up chasing the same bad eating habits in plant form. Eating excessive amounts of fruit can still qualify you as a vegan but it won’t change the fact that you are on the fast track to diabetes. The dirtiest forms of dirty keto can lead to insane consumption of artificial sweetness or natural sugar substitutes which are riddled with their own health risks.
That said… Veganism and really vegetarianism to some degree is still a diet that people still seek for non-dietary motivations, and pretty much any restrictive diet is going to require a degree of finesse and knowledge to make sure that diet will be nutritionally sound. It’s not out of bounds to be concerned about someone you care about in those terms.
Many countries other than the US are comprised of a federation of states. And also those that aren’t are generally considered nation states or sovereign states, which are still definitively states. The United States of America do not have an exclusive right on statehood.
Plus even though it may be implied that the original replier intended the context to mean the United States of America… it is a valid response with further implication that one should check their local jurisdiction’s laws if they were so inclined to do so.
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