DJKJuicy

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DJKJuicy,

Not really though…if young voters turned out en masse, they could replace all politicians with people they actually wanted. But they won’t, because “I’m not into politics” or “My vote doesn’t count”.

So it’s pretty much apathy…they have the power.

DJKJuicy,

There are politicians, right now, today, that support raising the minimum wage and then tying it to the CPI, expanding Medicare for all, and making college taxpayer funded.

But they don’t get enough votes, because…

DJKJuicy,

I searched for a community named “FacebookSaysItsFine” and haven’t yet seen anything.

Be the change you want to see in the world!

DJKJuicy,

The 90s industrial/nu metal band?

DJKJuicy,

Neat. Just was not at all expecting to see Pitchshifter in this discussion. (sorry I called them nu metal, felt strange to me too)

Yeah, I guess they did warn us. I didn’t really grasp the lyrics when I was younger. Even RATM was lost on me until I hit my 30s…

I'm worried that in the future we will be forced to use smartphones just like in China

In China, you can’t exist without a smartphone, because for all existential things you have to do (paying bills, buying tickets etc.) , you are forced to use the almighty wechat app. Smartphones are a tool to manipulate and to spy on the population. It is a tool utilized by the ruling class, to control the masses. I hate the...

DJKJuicy,

My kid’s school just implemented an app-based pickup process this year.

You have to download an app and register your phone and email and child, then when you get in the line to pickup your child you have to press a button in the app.

I literally cannot retrieve my child from school without a smartphone.

DJKJuicy,

Well my house is an Animahouse and can do that whenever it wants.

DJKJuicy,

Well, if the technology actually existed, it would solve that whole “soul” question.

We would know pretty quickly if we transported humans and they came out the other side as soulless aberrations because their original just got killed.

So yeah, I would 100% use it after it first proved once and for all that the sum of our consciousness really is all the synapses and signals and grey matter in our heads. Because if so then what does it matter if your original matter has been erased and then recreated. Your clone is just as much you as you are you at that point.

DJKJuicy, (edited )

Fair question.

I’m assuming that if your soul really is “you” then a soulless clone of you that is identical to you down to every atom, but had no soul, would be bad.

I don’t know if that means your soulless clone would just be an instinct driven animal, or maybe just an evil version of you that immediately grows a goatee. I don’t know what function your soul actually performs. But at some point, maybe not immediately, a bunch of soulless clones walking around would be noticed.

Maybe? (Or maybe not?)

DJKJuicy,

Agreed. Fuck hormones. I’m over here trying to be logical, and my hormones are telling me other things.

Thank you, fellow human.

DJKJuicy,

Oof…everybody being able to go to whatever the latest viral pool above a waterfall or cronut shop is all at once…

DJKJuicy,

“Soul conceit” is the right term here. The belief humans can’t seem to shake that I am more than just the sum of my parts.

I don’t know if I have a soul or if my consciousness is really just electric meat. But it seems that if I am more than the sum of my parts, the soulless me that comes out the other side will just be “my parts” and will be obviously different than the original me.

If we really are just our atoms, and the technology can be trusted to reliably replicate me atom for atom on the other side then there’s nothing to be afraid of. The original you hasn’t died, it’s just ceased to exist. No big deal. The clone of you is also you, so you still exist.

DJKJuicy,

If you have no soul and you just exist as matter, then in a horrible transporter accident where your clone and your original still exist, now there are two of you. You are both you. There is no difference if you are both perfect copies of each other. 1=1.

Sounds like a win/win to me, finally a best friend who really gets me.

DJKJuicy,

Isn’t it still kind of the same thing though?

Star Trek calls that “matter stream” energy your “pattern”. Pattern sounds a lot like Information. Data. Which is very easy to transmit and duplicate. Data can also be lost or corrupted.

So it’s as if they convert all your atoms to a file, then FTP your file to somewhere else where the technology turns your pattern back into matter.

“You” can’t exist as just data, so at that point you’re already dead. I think…

There are episodes where your pattern is stuck in the pattern buffer. You’re only information being stored at that point.

DJKJuicy,

I would actually really like a 4"x4"x1.5" square of perfectly marbled steak cloned from Kobe beef genes in some tray in a lab. No gristle, no bones, perfect consistency in every bite.

Seared in a blazing hot cast iron pan with salt, pepper, butter and lemon.

$8.99 lb. at Publix. I’ll take the transporter to get there.

DJKJuicy,

Agreed. That’s my point. I don’t really know if we have a soul. If transporter technology existed and worked as theorized, then it would answer a bunch of questions that have been plaguing humanity.

If everything that I am can be duplicated by making a perfect copy of me atom for atom, then there is nothing to fear from transporter technology.

DJKJuicy,

Hopefully my clone likes me as much as I like me.

DJKJuicy,

Oh, so that’s what The Great Filter looks like! Neat!

DJKJuicy,

Yeah…getting older is why this bullshit happens.

I used to have deep, deep sleep and could sleep until 10am if my schedule permitted.

After I hit my 40s I always wake up at 5-6am. Always. Still tired, just can’t fall back to sleep. Hate it.

I think those “up early” Dads and Grandpas are full of crap. They want to sleep in too, but their stupid old bodies won’t let them, so they act like the’re so awesome for being up early. At, least, that’s what I do…

DJKJuicy,

I really wish I could change people’s minds with logic…that hasn’t been my experience.

DJKJuicy,

Mother of God. That looks sooo good.

DJKJuicy,

You mean your luxury bones?

DJKJuicy,

I’m really torn by this. Should all this data be preserved for the betterment of society, or is that what Reddit should get for killing their goose that laid golden eggs…

DJKJuicy,

I think the air fryer appliance was designed to sell more small appliances.

Don’t get me wrong, I adore my air fryer and own a big stupid oversized Ninja air fryer with a grill grate in it that my family uses daily.

But IMO the air fryer is very modern and was designed from the start to be a consumable product and I’m sure my Ninja will die within the next few years.

I’ve also thought about bying a new oven with air fryer functionality built it, but my spouse pointed out that I’ll have to buy a whole new oven when that breaks…

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