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APassenger,

So did I, all while thinking this doesn’t seem possible.

APassenger,

Ad hoc and poison the well while being very wide of the mark, too.

Nicely done.

My politics align more with Sanders than anyone well known politician. Surplus is surplus and the left needs to retain the right to call a spade a spade.

Not all infrastructure spend is good. I’m both envious of what they have and stymied by articles documenting unused cities.

For ease of research, I recommend “China ghost cities.” Maybe those cities will make sense and not every idea has to work, but that is surplus, ergo excess.

APassenger,

Good reply, thank you.

And I’ll defer to your categorization and consider the reading recommendation.

I weighed calling them socialist, but it seemed… unhelpful when what i was trying to highlight that the unemployed youth are relying on family, and not the state.

The responses yesterday seemed to think China is just giving away money. They aren’t.

Also: all developed nations are socialist. What people argue over is where lines are drawn.

APassenger,

If you don’t like them being called capitalist, then your quarrel is with a whole heap of people (and academics).

The question, like I alluded to earlier, isn’t whether they are capitalist, but a question of how much. And many, after careful study, have determined them to be capitalist.

Those determinations are based on measurable things and philosophy (somewhat).

Also: you are clearly not my original intended audience. In the referenced thread I was getting low-effort, glib comments that snowballed upvotes.

Not unlike the person who deemed me to be a republican. It’s easy to look at my post history.

I’m not a republican. But glib is easy. And glib, low-effort posters were the primary intended audience. Know-it-alls.

APassenger,

I get that they’re attempting to master plan and be ahead of things. I also know infrastructure is an investment - and sometimes it’s partially a jobs program.

Not every investment works out.

I’m not down on them.

I’m down on low-effort, glib and smug responses and I’m hitting more of it on Lemmy than I hit elsewhere. I’m not sure if this is the result of reddit leading to a population swing or if lemmy already had a lot of “smart” people who could be better than they are.

If I plan to smear someone. I click their post history. I’ve stopped myself from many errors and found a way to build a common ground. I’ve also found fools and decided they weren’t worth it.

But if I plan to be dismissive, I do the research.

APassenger,

Did you read the article before posting?

There are descriptions of embittered and/or depressed youth. They are not describing young people so well cared for (by the state) that they are opting out.

And older family will eventually perish or cease to have the means. Something must take the place to ensure production at certain levels.

Also: fewer hours per job, with an unchanging workload would lead to more jobs. Not fewer. Unless automation, computing or improved engineering lower the overall effort.

Edit to add one more point: China is Capitalist. The land use thing is communist, but fundamentally they went capitalist decades ago. The notion that they’re doling out buckets of money to people mystifies me (building unnecessary infrastructure is a job).

If someone has a source or refutation, I’ll click and read, but until then I’ll run with what I find.

APassenger, (edited )

ITT: a lot of “either/or”

I’m not sure that evolution cares one wit about any of our theories. If it means I’m the dad and I’m the dad more often… then it will be favored.

If I enjoy it more, she enjoys it more or it means that my sperm have increased likelihood of winning… that’s all that matters.

And when I say “or” above, it can include any of those things. It need not be exclusive.

APassenger,

It wouldn’t though. I’m not saying UAPs are extraterrestrial. I’m saying as long as each person who leaks is met with plenty of, “no, you’re crazy.” It would help contain it.

Both with pressure and delegitimization. Now… proof is the thing that’s required. Not simply testimony.

APassenger,

If everyone who claims that is a loon (and they may be), then the leakers are auto-discredited.

Again and with clear emphasis because it looks like it was missed: I’m not saying UAPs are extraterrestrial. I’m making a meta-point.

If leakers are almost automatically easily classed as loons, then any inquiry isn’t an inquiry. They may be off their rockers.

And even “super-advanced tech” need not have extraterrestrial origin. But UAPs happen. We all seem to have forgotten O’Hare. Whatever happened was in passenger jet airspace.

Regardless of what planetary origin, UAPs deserve inquiry.

This is a thought provoking book. The author was even interviewed by Colbert and presented very cogently. Which is why I bought and read it.

Before anyone knee-jerks, it attempts to only use the most credible UAP encounters and looks at them with skepticism and a scientific mind.

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APassenger,

It was their fiduciary responsibility, wasn’t it?

The shareholders weren’t going to get a better offer.

APassenger,

They have no heart or soul, only brief flickers of “try” followed by “squirrel!”

APassenger,

Jesus you’re prolific and ubiquitous.

You win the glib trophy on this branch. Not them.

You really need to check yourself. You are galvanizing people into positions you want them to move off of. Are you doing this on purpose?

APassenger,

China can have a near vertical climb in production (your chart) but no one else can?

The vertical change takes planning and time, but no one has a lock on it. Especially if it becomes a strategic resource (and it has).

APassenger,

5 year olds don’t suicide often. Using an age range that dips that low skews the numbers..

If you want to compare apples to apples, do so. I’m not going to say which side will “win.” Truth should do that.

APassenger,

Trump can fuck off to jail. I’d like to see him tried for treason.

DeSantis has shown he’s a non-starter.

At this point they’re hoping for a dark horse pro-retreat candidate.

APassenger,

All systems require a check on greed and something that pulls things back to balanced. What we have (in the US) right now isn’t it.

SCOTUS has not helped in the least.

We need incentives for participation because “the feels” isn’t enough to motivate most to work all that much. But we need taxes and laws to keep things from skewing like they have.

APassenger,

The guy who won “over a billion” (that’s not what he got to keep) has headlines with his full name, what real estate he’s bought, lawsuits brought against him and he’s had to get body guards.

Because california forces a person to claim it and anonymity isn’t allowed.

Wife's boss is on a power trip. Is this legal?

My wife works in a restaurant, and the power-tripping manager has instituted a new policy where all shift changes must be approved by management. I think that is reasonable enough, but they’re also asking the originally-scheduled employee why they are switching shifts, then approving or denying based on the answer....

APassenger,

I think getting actionable advice was the point of the thread.

Editorials are often seen as disrespectful and dont get the engagement you’d hope (this isn’t a news community).

APassenger,

With the country built into the community name. Less confusion and wasted energy that way.

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APassenger,

Grieve. Be kind to yourself, be kind to them. Allow yourself to feel without resisting the feelings. But don’t chase them either.

There isn’t a right way to feel for most of this.

Part of grieving is reflection (usually). Remembering good times, bad times and wish-they-were-different times. Find a way to be with those moments and accept them as they are: moments. They aren’t lost, just future ones will be different.

And that’s okay. Or it will be. And you’ll be okay, too.

I ruminate too. I tell myself it helps me learn, helps me grow, helps me remember not to “x”. It rarely helps. It’s just a conditioned response that makes me feel more control while i actually lose some.

What truly helps is healing. Learning that sometimes compatability isn’t a you tho Ing or a them thing. But it’s still a thing and somebody called the spade a spade.

If you weren’t up to your standards, then rise. Otherwise, coat yourself in patience. Listen to YouTube videos like Tara Brach. Be honest with yourself as you heal. We all have barbs, we all have scars.

APassenger,

I like all this and I’ll add that for those who choose to participate, there is more than enough. For those who opt out, there is no lack.

But numbing oneself isn’t a passtime.

And all are treated with respect and freedom for all is a primary principle.

In essence: this and the other post that includes no scarcity and the end of capitalism.

APassenger,

When I read the posy what I heard was: how do we ensure high quality content? If we have that, SE won’t need the O.

And I’m down for high quality.

APassenger,

OP is an angry tankie who, to their credit, surfaces topics. Any of us can, few of us do.

Until and unless a more diverse set of people surface news/topics, we’ll have the status quo.

APassenger,

OP is an angry tankie who, to their credit, surfaces topics. Any of us can, few of us do.

Until and unless a more diverse set of people surface news/topics, we’ll have the status quo.

APassenger,

It’s only hypocritical if you approve of it in Canada.

If we all stay silent on topics because our individual countries have deeply problematic pasts, then we all stay silent.

We can be vocal about it at home and abroad.

APassenger,

Nope. Stop there.

You keep telling other people to do the research and make an argument to you. But you will not do it yourself.

It’s a troll move and you have to stop. All you are doing is alienating people. I’ve begun to wonder if that’s what you’re here to do.

APassenger,

In the African high speed rail thread, you required citations of others who had opinions you didn’t like.

You’re doing it here, too. But you won’t put in the effort you expect of others.

And you decry hypocrisy.

You are becoming a known agitator and troll. That’s never good for a cause you care about. Good work.

APassenger,

You’re changing the topic. You demanded citations for an assertion. Felt it was fair to do so. You clearly continue to do so.

When others ask you, you tell them to Google it. Even just a little more effort would be helpful - a good site for reference, author, something…

In the other thread I see your links. Thank you. Substance is good. I’ll take a look and see what’s up.

That so many people “follow you around” is you misreading that you’re pissing off (potential) allies. They’re in those communities for a reason.

Be better. No one is “stalking me.” And it’s not because I hold a lot of popular opinions (some are, some aren’t). Why are you being “stalked” for real? It’s not the opinion - it is the presentation.

If you were confident and mature, you wouldn’t be glib and dismissive, you’d present clearly, with some empathy and rapport building, and you’d find some space for discussion.

Others are also bringing up your complete lack of maturity in the Taiwan thread. Glib is how you galvanize people into an opposing position. Stop being glib.

APassenger,

This post, by your definition, has no content.

Do you see the hypocrisy?

APassenger,

These links (clicked and read) are not all that salacious.

Where there are like-minded people, we like to help. If we can get more like-minded people, that’s better.

If it was for free market capitalism, I’d have an issue with our contribution. A lot of this is about the spread of democracy. I don’t take issue with that.

Self-determination (including the rejection of democracy) seems fundamental to me. Overall, however, I think socialist democracies make the most sense. Beneficent dictatorships seem like a they’re one step away from not being beneficial. Slippery slope thing.

APassenger,

I have no disagreement with calling our system an oligarchy. It’s part of why I’m pro-socialism.

Money isn’t the only thing driving the oligarchy, but it’s way up there on my list.

Profound, immeasurable wealth is a blight and a hallmark of poor mental health.

APassenger,

LOL. I’m not trolling, I’m just distracting one.

APassenger,

Checking yours is how people quickly identify the tankie who hates people for their country of origin.

APassenger,

You’re daft. I wasn’t forced to admit that the US has an oligarchy and you didn’t add one bit of persuasion to my conclusion. I’ve been there for years.

You create an image of the people you talk with and then argue with that image.

There are two things wrong with that. You don’t see the person. And you’re arguing instead of anything useful. Both track back to an unnecessary and unhealthy predilection to combativeness.

You look for fault in others. You look for reasons to feel or be righteous. You look for all this stuff. And sometimes, you find it where it isn’t.

Your style is broken. Your approach is broken. You vision of who you speak with is broken. You’ve forgotten that with very rare exception, all posters are people.

You act like you’re the sole arbiter of a person’s worth and that that always tracks to being on the “right side” of issues you exclusively care about. It’s immature and, honestly, intellectually lazy.

And if the topic of persuasion or decency doesn’t seem substantive to you, then you really need to reflect on why that’s your response.

Let’s add: you responded quickly to the tankie part. What say you about hating people for their country of origin? Because you’ve shown active disdain as soon as you think you know they’re from places.

APassenger, (edited )

See… that’s the thing. I never said…

You’re off your rocker. I’m tired of being completely misrepresent while you say I said things I didn’t.

And that, is how I know you hate. You do it persistently.

Your replies in the branch are as off topic as my own. And you know it. No high ground left.

I’ll add: I’m not that worked up about whether I’m respected. It’s that you throw your disrepect around potential and quasi-allies for not being pure enough. I’ve stated this clearly multiple times.

To add further: posting a slew of links criticizing the US for trying yo help spread Democracy when your aspersions go far further… isn’t the kind of critical thinking you present it to be.

It’s like me saying soviet Russia wanted more communism in the world. It’s obvious.

APassenger,

🤡

Come on now. You attack without much provocation at all. But there’s no hate or purity tests?

That’s a damn lie.

What you’ve missed (clearly) in a lot of this is I could be an ally on some topics but you can’t stop lashing out in some “righteous” crusade.

If persuasion were a battlefield, you’d be killing your own.

APassenger,

Ah. The source of your anger.

The local Overton window shifted. You’d found a bubble you liked and now it’s different and more perspectives are flooding in. Not all perspectives are informed, but you are being credibly challenged now.

The big fish in a small pond finds itself in a different body of water.

I’m not insulting people until very recently and it’s only you. You cast a wide net with your anger and it’s helping no one. And it hurts your cause.

I never said you sealion me. Not once. You keep seeing things as said that aren’t. And then you complain about reading comprehension of your sparring partners.

It’s shameful. And I’m not using that lightly. You act shamefully. It’s fucking embarrassing the way you’re trying to advance ideas by insulting people.

Other people are here. Adapt.

If we need to have a thread about maladaptive rhetoric so you cam deem my discussion on topic I’ll point out that posting a single clown emoji or vomit one is not topical, either. It only further lowers discourse and makes you into an easily discarded clown.

And I doubt you want that.

APassenger,

I’m not jumping in to start fights. I jump in to ask why you’re doing it.

There’s a difference. Clown faces (a pattern, not an instance), vomit emoji… all that is is you doing something for your feels and to feel better than. They do exactly zero for anything a normal, mature peraon would hope to generate.

You say you want meaningful exchange and you doggedly defend yourself as you bring the discourse down to single emoji and knee-jerk judgments.

You’re creating an unhelpful dynamic. Being likeable helps. Being right is “logically” enough. For persuasion, it is a distant second on a good day.

Being more likeable and less glib can help. Or, You’re not here to help. You’re here to feel better than. Your choice and you get to choose, but be consistent. If it’s the later, don’t criticize it in others, please.

Let’s go one further and I’ll ask other than when I told you themat you required evidence and you were being a hypocrite, when did I demand evidence over and over? Or do you not know what sealioning is?

I’m not demanding evidence. I’m asking why you’re so darn incivil to so many people. You look like an unsympathetic Don Quixote and it helps none of your points.

And if you’re not here to persuade, why post so many of a specific kind of article.

Again. I don’t follow you around. I’m in certain communities for a reason. And then you shit all over them.

It’s daft, touched-in-the-head kind of behavior.

APassenger,

You need to Google “sea lion troll.”

You’re not using the term correctly. Or keep doing it wrong, up to you.

I understand that you’ve answered that you get to decide if a person is worthy of respect or dignity or decency. I find it highly ironic since you seem to exist on a part of the spectrum that would want those things for (almost?) everyone. That may not be true, but you seem inclined to push socialist ideas. I’m very open to that, personally. Many Americans are; the culture wars are used to distract and divide and it works.

If I’ve persisted in my question on why you become knee-jerk incivil, it’s because the answers so far have landed as “because.” Your most recent response hits more authentically and I appreciate it. I’ve sparred with trolls. I’ve sparred with those who genuinely disagree for good (and bad) reasons. Authentic, mature conversation appeals to me.

Dropping to name calling (emojis) based on the first reply on a thread lowers discourse. I’ll stop here. I just wish that shit didn’t happen so much.

I’m not your opponent but you sure set out that way when you correctly determined I’m in and from the US. The combativeness was not deserved, it was off-putting and I am much less likely to want to engage. Shrug.

APassenger,

I could be wrong. This might be it.

APassenger,

Good point. Why even engage you?

You have made clear your disdain for all Americans.

I’m not even looking for you but you’re everywhere just provoking people while acting like you’re persuasive. And your persuasive ability is to anger potential allies.

APassenger,

Stop edge loading. You are hurting any cause you purport to endorse.

Do the research on why people dislike you. And if you’re doing this on purpose, I hope mods all over pay attention.

APassenger,

I’m not following you around.

You’re a ubiquitous troll in many of the communities I like. I now question if lemmy is actually for discourse because you’re always sitting on it.

APassenger,

I’m not following you. You are a ubiquitous, low effort troll. You are not representing causes in any persuasive way.

Your whole argument is the West and especially the US is bad. I’m sympathetic to many points, but you broad brush people, turn dismissive, condescending and just… mean.

Don’t call my stuff vapid when you’re posting vomit emoji and othe glib stuff at potential allies.

That’s the thing. All you see are enemies. All you make are enemies. You’re safe hiding on a server that disallows downvotes but you’re pissing people off - because you keep lashing out and trolling.

Groups I’d enjoy, you’re killing the vibe and the discussion. We have similar interests but you’ve never considered it. I was a bad person for being born in the US from the first time we talked.

I’m not the topic, here.

APassenger,

I don’t look for you, but you’re never far away.

This is another example of you being glib and acting like you know a person and their failings with profoundly little evidence.

If you want to be taken seriously at all, work on being able to draw clear conclusions from a body of evidence and then be able to use rhetoric well.

APassenger,

I don’t see them being glib on every 10th thread I click through.

That distinction is entirely yours.

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