HowMany,

“Treated” radioactive water… soooo many movies.

Or is this where we give a boost to the next dominant species - octopus / dolphin sapients.

OnopordumAcanthium, (edited )
@OnopordumAcanthium@lemmy.ml avatar

Japan is such a contradicting country. On one hand, i’ve always had the feeling that their culture and beliefs are bound to nature, many honor nature. On the other hand: this happens. Weird.

fajitahornet,

yeah everybody just ignore the actual important bit of information:

That water will contain about 190 becquerels of tritium per litre, below the World Health Organisation drinking water limit of 10,000 becquerels per litre, according to Tepco. A becquerel is a unit of radioactivity.

china and south korea beeing shocked is a political and cultural thing…because its always cool bashing thr neighbor to feel better about your self.

I’m no expert nor do i aprove atomic waste dumping in the ocean. just trying to bring up a.talking point here.

peace and love

kandoh,

While the reported tritium levels may be below the World Health Organisation’s drinking water limit, it’s important to note that tritium’s potential risks depend on various factors such as the quantity released, dilution rates in the ocean, and potential bioaccumulation in the aquatic ecosystem.

possessedfaxmachine,

Over the last three decades and especially the last decade (the Fukushima accident) TEPCO has a history of missteps, reprehensible neglect, denial, and most of all creative work with their own documents or even more creative backdating of already existing documents to make everything look okay on paper so they can continue to get funding from the government here (sorry, actually just a bunch of LDP gerontocrats and 日本会議 members) to cover their fuckups. They have shown nothing but a series of lies and utter incompetence over the past decade. Anything they say should be taken with a very large grain of salt. They seem to want to forget that even for days and perhaps weeks afterwards they claimed that nothing actually happened and that it was a fraction compared to XYZ. And actually there was no problem, they claimed there was no problem even when people started moving. And then they pretended that they never said there was no problem and were transparent. But people here are not used to question or check whatever they are being told

yogthos,
@yogthos@lemmy.ml avatar
fluxion,

On one hand, I’m sure they’ve thought this through and calculated the radiation levels to be manageable.

On the other hand, pretty much every decision regarding Fukushima has ended up resulting in a disastrous worst-case scenario.

arymandias,

Jummy 😋☢️

DestroyerOfWorlds,

Do you want Godzilla? Because that is how you get Godzilla.

sanguinepar,
@sanguinepar@lemmy.world avatar

Yes. Yes I do.

iridaniotter,
@iridaniotter@lemmygrad.ml avatar

If 400 PBq of nuclear testing and 37,000 PBq of naturally occuring uranium in the ocean didn’t create Godzilla, then this obviously won’t.

sleet01,
@sleet01@lemmy.ca avatar

Scoff

This is not how you get Godzilla. This is how you get Hedorah… arguably much worse.

superseven,

Just put it in fancy bottles and people all over the world will buy it

johannes,

True story 😂 people buy weird stuff from gewenneth paltrow, surely she could marketing this to a succes!

ivanafterall,
@ivanafterall@kbin.social avatar

GLOWATER by GOOP. Or maybe H2GLO.

CookieJarObserver,
@CookieJarObserver@sh.itjust.works avatar

Its probably relatively safe to drink lol

RickyRigatoni,
@RickyRigatoni@lemmy.ml avatar

Get a nuka-cola deal with Bethesda.

c0mbatbag3l,
@c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world avatar
iridaniotter,
@iridaniotter@lemmygrad.ml avatar

Combo it with uranium glass bottles

ivanafterall,
@ivanafterall@kbin.social avatar

Just like that, it went from "Haha, what kind of idiot would buy that" to "OMG, I want a collectible 6-pack."

hoshikarakitaridia,

Can someone with knowledge chime in to tell how bad that is? I don’t trust this article or China for that matter.

nachobel,

The IAEA approved the release, so it’s unlikely to be catastrophic. I can’t imagine radioactive tritium is great for fish, but what do I know.

FaceDeer,
@FaceDeer@kbin.social avatar

It'll dilute so quickly and thoroughly into the ocean that it might as well not be there. This is a classic case of the public panicking over the word "nuclear."

sunbeam60, (edited )

Nor is pissing in an Olympic pool, but at some point you’re at homeopathic levels and while it “sounds wrong” is actually totally fine.

NewNewAccount,

You don’t trust Reuters? Reuters is about as trustworthy and unbiased as you can get. They’re like the gold standard for non-editorialized journalism.

Hogger85b,

I've always heard it as Reuters is what the markets use to make their "bets" so has to be true enough to inform them.

showmustyugo,

China: bro… radioactive waste should not be dumped into the ocean, the fuck? Are you serious?

Me: 😡 stfu tankies

IEAE: it’s just radioactive tritium, how bad can it be? Surely the impact will be negligible

Me: ayyyy fuck them fishes 🤪🖕

TheBlue22,

Tankie spotted, opinion discarded

iridaniotter,
@iridaniotter@lemmygrad.ml avatar

China’s Hongyanhe power plant releases 4x as much radiation lol. It’s fake, unscientific concern being published for geopolitical reasons. I say this as someone who otherwise agrees with most of what the Chinese government has to say.

jcit878,

what sane reason would someone have to agree with literally anything that genocidal corrupt government would say

iridaniotter,
@iridaniotter@lemmygrad.ml avatar

They usually accomplish the goals they set out to do and have greatly improved the well-being of their people. Egregious corruption has been dealt with - that’s old news. And there’s no genocide in China. To say that is actually soft genocide denial as it trivializes the word.

jcit878,

Egregious corruption has been dealt with - that’s old news.

lol

And there’s no genocide in China

LOL

mate theres no way to think either of those things without being cooked

iridaniotter,
@iridaniotter@lemmygrad.ml avatar

You’ve based your perception of China on fundamentally incorrect axioms, so there’s no discussion to be had here. We can talk about radiation if you want.

jcit878,

keep that head in the sand buddy, I’m sure it’ll work out for you

nbafantest,

Very very small amounts of radiation is not bad. Your body is exposed to this every day.

Japans plan is to dilute the “water” so much that it should be at safe levels while it decays. They’re also not going to release all of it at once, which might not be clear to some readers.

I believe their plan is widely recognized to be safe, but obviously there is a lot of fear around nuclear and radiation.

I believe the worry is that this amount has never Been released before, and that while we might consider it safe, there is a chance it accumulates somewhere to harmful levels.

And obvious consumers of fish are already reacting. Would you buy “safe” fish from Chernobyl if you could just as easily buy the same fish from South Korea?

xep, (edited )

Here's the IAEA report: https://www.iaea.org/sites/default/files/iaea_comprehensive_alps_report.pdf

The discharge limit for tritium is pre-defined in the Government Policy for discharges of ALPS treated water as 22 TBq per year, which is equivalent to the pre-accident discharge limits at FDNPS.

I'm also curious about how much discharge nuclear generators normally produce. If they discharge a certain amount as part of normal operation then it seems to me to also become a function of how many nuclear generators are being operated globally.

iridaniotter,
@iridaniotter@lemmygrad.ml avatar

The Hongyanhe reactor annually releases 4x as many becquerels of tritium. The Fukushima metldown released 5,000x as much. So this is obviously a non-issue being drummed up due to politics. 🙄

yogthos,
@yogthos@lemmy.ml avatar

seems like might be worse than the report lets on theguardian.com/…/fukushima-fish-with-180-times-l…

sunbeam60,

Hasn’t got anything to do with this release. Clearly radiative material was received during the accident. That will have made it into the food chain and some fish living near plant will have absorbed some.

This release is about the gradual release of treated water which is measured to be below the existing limit.

yogthos,
@yogthos@lemmy.ml avatar

I guess we’ll see what things look like once it happens.

FigMcLargeHuge,

I don’t trust this article or China for that matter.

Then I guess it’s a good thing that this is Japan we are talking about.

pastaq,

I’m fairly confident they were referring to the criticism from China FTA, but you’d need to read past the headline for that context so…

hoshikarakitaridia,

Yes that was it. Chinas comments have been over the top for a bunch of issues in the past, there’s no reason to just presume their stance has merit.

Especially since they are starting fires again rn regarding Taiwan and Japan in different context.

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