Gradually_Adjusting,
@Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world avatar

So he lost advertisers not because of antisemitism, but because someone complained.

Makes perfect sense.

spaghettiwestern,

I’m sure the prospect of having your company’s name displayed alongside actual Nazi content has nothing to do with it.

Ocelot,

Thats really the fundamental problem with free speech. Letting anyone say whatever their opinion means that “Everyone” includes morons and racists (who are obviously also morons)

Not letting them have a platform means censorship. Letting them have a platform means hate speech. Tough nut to crack.

chaogomu,
jayrhacker,

Relevant, and succinct.

HughJanus,

The problem is that people don’t realize there are different types of free speech.

1 is the constitutionally guaranteed right to free speech by law.

2 is the concept of free speech.

Most people automatically assume you’re referring 1 when more often than not, unless someone is being prosecuted, they are referring to 2.

chaogomu,

#2 doesn't exist, because #2 is forcing others to host your speech and listen to your speech, and that's just not how things work.

You are free to say what you want, but everyone else is just as free to tell you to shut up and go away.

HughJanus,

because #2 is forcing others to host your speech and listen to your speech, and that’s just not how things work.

Uhhhh no? A concept doesn’t force people to do anything. Not sure what you’re on about.

You are free to say what you want, but everyone else is just as free to tell you to shut up and go away.

No one said they’re not.

there1snospoon,

Nazis and dumb people vs. No Nazis and dumb people.

Hmmm.

spaghettiwestern,

Everyone can say what they want, but contrary to what the MAGA idiots think, they have no right to free speech on someone else’s platform. They are free to make their own platforms and we can see from the great success of Truth Social and Parler how that works out.

What “free speech absolutist” Musk is trying to do is limit the speech of the ADL outside his platform, and to prevent them from shining a spotlight on him and the Nazi cockroaches he’s invited back to Twitter. He’s not going to convince advertisers that having their company’s name appear next to Nazi content is a good thing, and IMO his attempted bullying of the ADL is going to end up driving advertisers away instead of bringing them back. Good.

gravitas_deficiency,

No, no - he means he blames the ADL for making most people not like Nazis.

Ocelot,

True. Lots of people are jumping on the new “Elon is a nazi” bandwagon though.

What a world we live in where disagreeing with what an organization led or founded by someone jewish allegedly did or didn’t do gets you labeled as an anti-semite. I fail to see how anything here has anything to do with anyone being jewish.

I still would like so badly to find out Elon is an anti-semite. It would be the icing on the cake for all the other batshit stiff he’s done. Does anyone know of evidence of this?

downpunxx,
@downpunxx@kbin.social avatar

^ Nazi Cunt

Madison_rogue,
@Madison_rogue@kbin.social avatar

Mitläufer

This is where we are with Elon Musk and X/Twitter. He's a passive sympathizer because he allows the content. What makes matters worse is he's trying to blame it on the ADL instead of taking responsibility for it.

Blake,

In December 2022, Twitter reinstated the account of notorious neo-Nazi Andrew Anglin (and then suspended him again this month), who has a warrant out for his arrest for ignoring a $14 million judgment against him for directing an antisemitic harassment campaign against a target.

Twitter also reinstated the accounts of people who have incited violence or frequently posted hateful content:

The Nation of Islam White nationalist Patrick Casey Misogynist Andrew Tate

Antisemitic tweets directed at Jewish investor and philanthropist George Soros warranted its own category. He was mentioned more than any other person in our data, over 19,000 times, with tweets claiming he was a member of a hidden globalist, Jewish or “Nazi” world order.

in May, Musk likened billionaire George Soros — a perennial boogeyman for the antisemitic right — to a supervillain, claiming that he “hates humanity.”

Antisemitism on Twitter has more than doubled since Elon Musk took over the platform

While jury selection in the trial of the Pittsburgh Tree of Life synagogue shooter continued on Wednesday, Musk used his platform to boost virulent antisemitic conspiracy theories—including some that the Pittsburgh suspect himself spread

Musk also responded to tweets spreading other Soros conspiracy theories, including false claims that Soros, a Holocaust survivor, helped roundup Jews for the Nazis, and claims that Soros is somehow linked to the Rothschilds, an entirely separate antisemitic conspiracy theory about Jewish bankers which the Soros’ conspiracies have largely replaced.

just days after Musk announced he was buying Twitter for $44 billion, he tweeted about the antisemitic conspiracy that Jews control the U.S. media, including a reference to Soros.

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athos77,

Remember, he grew up a rich white boy in full apartheid South Africa, and never matured beyond that. He has no ability for self-reflection or introspection. Which means he's never wrong, so someone else must be to blame. So far, that's included religious, racial, and sexual minorities. He's only going to grow more deranged as time goes on.

Alto,
@Alto@kbin.social avatar

Rich white boy whose parents wealth directly came from apartheid oppression*

bizzle,
@bizzle@midwest.social avatar

What did his parents do? Because wow that explains a lot.

Cabrio,

Emerald mine.

SatanicNotMessianic,

Weren’t they also weapons smugglers? He talked about him and his dad flying with a plane load of contraband including AK-47s.

Cabrio,

How else do you arm your private security to keep your slaves in line.

geolaw,

And grandparents? Usually you can trace the wealth back through multiple generations

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