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lettruthout, in Natural gas pipeline construction is booming

And whale oil used to be a thing. I’m hoping natural gas will also go away.

Zippy, in What’s Up With Germany’s Pro-Israel ‘Left’? | Novara Media

Most of developed world are pretty fed up with Hamas. Lemmy is not the norm.

marxistsynths19,

Well 150 countries are fed up with Israel. The global north’s morals are not the norm.

Zippy,

A great number of countries on that list as those the likes of Russia, Saudia Arabia, North Korea… Not nations known for human rights or security.

chayleaf,

“80% of the world is against Israel, which is backed by my country, but among them there are countries that are bad and oppose my country for some reason, so I’ll support what my country is backing instead”

Israel is much more successful in massacring people than any of the countries you could think of. And please, don’t talk shit about other countries when you aren’t ready to fight against your country’s ruling class. That never ended well. This is literally the reason some Russian “communists” support the war.

krolden,
@krolden@lemmy.ml avatar

Which war

chayleaf,

the Russia-Ukraine war of course

Deceptichum,
@Deceptichum@kbin.social avatar

Most of the developed world and Lemmy realise that supporting Palestinians is not supporting Hamas.

You seem to have not gotten the memo.

Most of the world is however fed up with the inhumane acts committed by Israel, to the point that even Western countries are openly condemning them.

Tavarin,
@Tavarin@lemmy.ca avatar

I’ve seen several people on Lemmy fully supporting Hamas, so I wouldn’t say Lemmy gets your first point.

chayleaf,

Please educate yourself on formal logic.

Support for Hamas does imply support for Palestine.

However, what the original commenter said is that supporting Palestine doesn’t imply supporting Hamas, which is true, it just implies an eclectic worldview in which you support a people against a genocide, but not their only means for resisting said genocide, and ignore facts (for example, by reading the 1988 Hamas charter, which is heavily cited by Western media, instead of the 2017 Hamas charter, which is much harder to find because it’s inconvenient for the West)

Tavarin,
@Tavarin@lemmy.ca avatar

Hamas has also stated quite recently their goal is the elimination of Israel by repeated terrorist attacks against civilians. So no, one should not support Hamas.

chayleaf, (edited )

First, elimination of Israel is a good thing. Second, please show me the source.

Indeed, “terrorist attacks” have widely been performed by Palestinians and Palestinian liberation groups. Some were aimless, as they were just the spontaneous expression of the hatred of Palestinians towards Zionists. Some were quite purposeful (and it’s not just Palestinians doing that, there were plenty of cases of e.g. terrorist attacks of Ukraine on many people in Russia, the most recent one I remember killed a former Ukraine deputy who defected to Russia, and the blowing up of the Crimea bridge may well be considered one) - with the purpose being anything from assassinations (like the assassination of the minister of tourism by PFLP, and I hope you won’t claim Israel’s government is innocent and shouldn’t be targeted), to raising money, to political demands (the Japanese Red Army Faction hijacked some planes for ransom or to make the Japanese government release prisoners, or to make a point by flying one to DPRK), to perhaps the most objectionable purpose - intimidating Israelis to show that this isn’t “their” land.

“Terrorist attacks” shouldn’t be equated with each other - they should be looked at in the context of who’s leading them, what’s their purpose and means. If you reject “terrorist attacks”, you’re often rejecting the only means of partisan combat for heavily overwhelmed forces. Of course indiscriminate attacks on civilians are bad (though if civilians start shooting at you, you’re forced to fight anyway), but, depending on the organization leading them, most terrorist attacks aren’t that. There’s of course also the wider problem that terrorist attacks can’t be the only means towards an end, and don’t make sense in a lot of cases. Whether Hamas or PFLP perform them is not up to me, I’ll just trust that they know their options better than me. I’m not in a position to teach or moralize them.

BrianTheeBiscuiteer,

I haven’t seen a single person defend Hamas. Not here or anywhere.

LoveSausage,

I do. Why not? Do everyone fighting the good fight need to be angels? Sure I wish it was pflp leading the fight but anyone opposing Israel gets my support.

krolden,
@krolden@lemmy.ml avatar

Is that what the news says

stoy, in 25MW turbines for third gigawatt-scale Swedish offshore wind farm

I am allways concerned about off shore power, it gives a huge opening to a foreign actor to stealthily attack them under water…

But as long as they wont replace existing powerplants and just export the surplus, I am fine with it.

lntl,

If I sabotaged your offshore power, I’d say that I didn’t and have my navy produce a report that concluded that whales did it.

mosiacmango,

They aren’t just towers in the dark. These things have all sorts of sensors on them. I doubt even a submarine is going to stealthily destroy these.

The power grid has way, way more weaknesses that would be way more impactful dont require a submarine to execute. Capitalism has guaranteed we have basically zero spare parts for large transformers. A single person can easily destroy these and do more damage in a war time scenario.

Maeve, in First US molten salt reactor in over 50 years to be built

What is it with my nation? If you are the last person to die with all the money, what have you actually won?

Zoboomafoo,
@Zoboomafoo@lemmy.world avatar

Read the article, the OP only quoted the part that talked about the downsides

It’s about developing small, safe reactors

Mac, in The U.N. says 90% of Gazan's are Displaced and 60% of Infrastructure Damaged/Destroyed

And nearly the entire world is allowing it to happen.

flambonkscious, in The U.N. says 90% of Gazan's are Displaced and 60% of Infrastructure Damaged/Destroyed

Only 60% of the infrastructure? The pic looks a lot higher., but I guess thats just the foreground…

M137, in 25MW turbines for third gigawatt-scale Swedish offshore wind farm

Nice! We (Sweden) just got 700 MW of new onshore wind, too. Article from the same website OP posted:

windpowermonthly.com/…/sweden-almost-700mw-new-on…

detectivemittens, in The U.N. says 90% of Gazan's are Displaced and 60% of Infrastructure Damaged/Destroyed
ripcord,
@ripcord@kbin.social avatar

I'll take your word for it

yogthos, in Casualties Rise in Gaza: 70% of Killed Women and Children
@yogthos@lemmy.ml avatar

Reminder that these atrocities are facilitated by the west, and would not be possible without full and unwavering support of the US regime.

New2Lemmy23,

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  • yogthos,
    @yogthos@lemmy.ml avatar

    Ah yes, the real fault is with the people resisting genocide. You’re so very intelligent.

    New2Lemmy23,

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  • IrateAnteater, in Casualties Rise in Gaza: 70% of Killed Women and Children

    Have any of these numbers been verified by a third party agency? You’ll have to forgive me if I don’t take anything Hamas says at face value.

    Olgratin_Magmatoe,

    I haven’t heard anything from a third party, and no doubt hamas is exagerating to some degree, but whatever the actual numbers are, I wouldn’t think the current estimate of ~20,000 is far off. Israel is intentionally bombing civilians, so the estimated number sounds fairly reasonable to me.

    Easier to confirm, is the proportion of women & children. About half the population of Palestine is children, and about half are women. So ~75% being women or children also fits.

    NoneOfUrBusiness,

    Hamas isn't exaggerating, because the Gaza Health Ministry isn't Hamas except by virtue of Hamas being the government of Gaza. The whole world trusts and uses the GHM's numbers, because they're accurate. Also the real number is more than 19000, because there are people still buried under rubble or otherwise missing.

    bartolomeo,

    I don’t think those commenters really care, they’re just looking for reassurance for their apathy. Denial will save them from inconvenience.

    Olgratin_Magmatoe,

    Dude, I am this 🤏 close to being banned in another community for daring to say that the current event is a genocide of palestinians.

    I’m not denying anything, let alone for the sake of convenience. I’m not apathetic. All I’m saying is, is that the current numbers are probably not completely accurate.

    I also explicitly said that the current estimate is probably not far off.

    Potatofish,

    Wouldn’t it be great if Hamas popped up out of their hide-e-holes and fought the IDF? Imagine all the innocent people that wouldn’t get killed.

    Olgratin_Magmatoe,

    Yeah. Definitely place sole blame on hamas instead of the people intentionally bombing civilians.

    Potatofish,

    Is that what I said? Weird, I didn’t realize it!

    forrgott,

    Ha. Bibi pays them too instigate conflict, not fight back. Or so I’ve heard (no I don’t have proof, not honestly would not be surprised).

    dmonzel,

    and no doubt hamas is exagerating to some degree

    First, you’re going to need some sort of evidence to back up this claim. Second, Hamas isn’t who is publishing these numbers.

    Olgratin_Magmatoe,

    First, you’re going to need some sort of evidence to back up this claim.

    It’s in their interest to exaggerate, and they are under the control of a terrorist organization.

    Second, Hamas isn’t who is publishing these numbers.

    My understanding is that the only people tracking & publishing the numbers is the Palestinian health ministry, which is under the control of Hamas. Everyone else is just saying “Gaza’s health ministry said X” and such.

    dmonzel,

    It’s in their interest to exaggerate, and they are under the control of a terrorist organization.

    That’s not evidence, that’s another claim. Please provide evidence.

    My understanding

    You don’t understand the difference between evidence and a claim, so it’s no surprise that you don’t understand anything else that you said after those two words.

    AngrilyEatingMuffins,

    I think Israel themselves said that casualties were 61% civilian, and they count any male of “fighting age” as Hamas, so 70 sounds about right

    little_hermit,

    Putting greater significance on women and children sounds primitive; all lives should be counted equally. But yes, all men are potentially hamasian by virtue of having the same body parts as hamas, thereby resembling hamas enough to be unworthy of living.

    explodicle,

    Children kinda makes sense. They’re less likely to be combatants and have more potential life ahead of them.

    NoneOfUrBusiness,

    The Gaza Health Ministry's numbers are trusted by the whole world, including organizations like UNICEF.

    espentan, in X to be investigated for allegedly breaking EU laws on hate speech and fake news

    It feels like it’s always the EU picking up the ball on these things. Aren’t there mechanisms in place to monitor these things in the US, or is it legislation (or lack of it) that prevents the government from going after such things?

    rtxn,

    In the US, you always have to consider the benefits and risks to an elected official. Republicans would get nothing out of putting their new golden boy under a magnifier, but I’m certain that if a democrat tried it, they’d get slandered to hell and back.

    The EU probably has no such concern. I don’t know how the EC’s members are picked, but partisanship is probably not as huge a factor. Eventually some EC members were bound to grow a backbone.

    MindSkipperBro12,

    I wish our America can just start shedding our old identity and start slowly, but surely, copying Europes identity. Maybe things can change for the better.

    rtxn,

    That would be a nightmare. Whenever there is societal progress, conservatives always push back aggressively.

    thefartographer,

    Not against getting a new king!

    Zink,

    Well they said conservatives push back against progress, so I think welcoming their new king checks out.

    rtxn,

    Yesterday’s monarch is today’s dictator-for-a-few-days-at-most.

    jackpot,
    @jackpot@lemmy.ml avatar

    we mustnt let that stop us

    MindSkipperBro12,

    Ain’t that the truth…

    Ottomateeverything,

    I’m not up on EU politics all that much, so I hope someone more informed comes along and posts a better answer, but…

    My distant view + guess for as to why it’s different is that they have more than one party. Partisanship is at its worse when there are only 2 of you, as demonstrated by the US system - it’s all finger pointing and “us vs them” that just polarized everything.

    In the EU there are (at least?) 7ish “major” political parties, and while some are bigger than others, many actual hold seats and power unlike the US Green and Libertarian “parties” that are essentially meaningless.

    As such, any “partisanship” seems at least less extreme. It’s a lot harder to crucify one bad guy when your time and attention is split between 6 “bad guys”. And different parties back different things, so even if 3 were anti-abortion, you’d have to split your slander and hate to three different groups with different OTHER ideas. So it gets a bit lost in sauce.

    And on the other side, if you take a strong stance on one issue (such as this one), there are likely multiple parties on your side for that issue since there are unlikely to be 7 opinions, and even if they are, the similar ones can “tag team” a little bit since they’re more in line with each other than the opposing sides are.

    If you’ve ever played video games, games with more than 2 teams play very differently than ones that are just one or the other. Dynamics are much more complicated and constantly evolving than they are in a simple “team a vs team b”.

    As such, my understanding is that all of these extreme takes are severely diluted since there are more shades of gray and more nuance to the conversation and not just a constant “red vs blue”.

    barsoap,

    Currently 10 parties in the parliament making up seven fractions. For a supernational parliament the influence of nationalities is generally small, but occasionally it bleeds through.

    There’s actually more things that you can call parties operating on the European levels but many aren’t large/successful enough to be granted party status by the parliament. E.g. Pirates generally fraction with Greens/EFA, Volt is split between Greens/EFA and Renew, roughly left-liberal vs. right-liberal, they really don’t seem to be able to decide.

    Skua,

    The members of the Commission are chosen by the head of each member state, but also have to be approved by the parliament. So it's kinda like a civil servant that gets vetted by elected representatives

    grue,

    It’s kind of like the US Senate from before the 17th Amendment.

    Spendrill,

    Also most of the EU members conduct business in their own language so they don’t have to worry about Anglosphere media getting a hard-on for them.

    TwistedFox,

    While I have no doubt that the EU has corrupt politicians, It's no where as visibly bad as it is in the US. Most of the people who could bring this forward get something out of what he is doing or contributing to them, and they would rather turn a blind eye than risk losing whatever he is giving them.
    For some it's helping out their base, for others its something more monetary.
    There are mechanisms there, but they only work when the people watching them are invested in helping the citizens.

    magnor,
    @magnor@lemmy.magnor.ovh avatar

    I’ve lost all hope for the US to do anything meaningful on topics such as disinformation. I mean, half of the people there vote for people who believe COVID is a hoax and the Jews are firing space lasers at people.

    Anticorp,

    The government is 20 years behind on tech legislation, and they are owned by the corpos.

    Fleur__, in X to be investigated for allegedly breaking EU laws on hate speech and fake news
    @Fleur__@lemmy.world avatar

    Does anyone know if filtering “X” also filters out any title that has the letter “x” in it from my feed?

    E: using sync

    Anticorp,

    I think so, which is super annoying. Probably one of the reasons why he went with a letter, it’s really hard to filter it.

    gregorum, in Turkey links Sweden’s NATO bid to US approving F-16 jet sales and Canada lifting arms embargo

    Erdogan: Let me make this perfectly clear-- Bribe me.

    tygerprints, in Jeffrey Epstein Never Stopped Abusing Women—and His VIP Circle Helped Make It Possible

    All I can say is, I'm glad Jeff Epstein is dead and some of those who helped promulgate his sickness are in jail also. Far too many men get away with the abuse of women in this society. These men are all mentally ill, and they all need to be jailed for the remainder of their lifetimes.

    Vedlt,

    I apologize, because this kind of sounds like a “not all men” comment, but I promise it’s not meant to be. Unfortunately abuse is not just limited to being perpetrated by men, if I recall correctly Epstein famously had a female accomplice, who was apprehended and is serving time. Anyone perpetuating abuse is despicable and deserves our hate. I guess that goes without saying, however your use of “men” just stuck out in my mind and I wanted to make sure Ghislaine Maxwell and her ilk also get an equal amount of outrage directed at them.

    Fuck all abusers and facilitators.

    AnneBonny,

    if I recall correctly Epstein famously had a female accomplice

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghislaine_Maxwell

    On 28 June 2022, Maxwell was sentenced to 20 years in prison

    slap on the wrist

    Vedlt,

    I don’t know if I’d call 20 years a slap on the wrist, it is a significant chunk of time, but it is no where near enough for the shit they did. When I went to Wikipedia to double check my info and saw that was the sentence I was appalled that was all she got. They do all deserve a life sentence for what they did.

    AnneBonny,

    I don’t know if I’d call 20 years a slap on the wrist, it is a significant chunk of time,

    You’re correct. My use of the phrase wasn’t really appropriate.

    asteriskeverything,

    Yeah this is one of the rare cases where it’s absolutely fair to point out because it was an entire network with people from both genders participating or complicit in some way! We aren’t discussing statistics, women were involved in these atrocities so it really would make more sense to be inclusive of all the abusers

    Zehzin,
    @Zehzin@lemmy.world avatar
    tygerprints,

    Yes he did have a female accomplice who I'm happy to say also went to jail. But how often do you hear of women abusing men? I know it goes on, and one problem with any kind of abuse is under reporting by people who are embarrassed and ashamed.

    Still from what I've read the greater number of perpetrators is men, just look at all those they just busted for sending solicitations to young girls for sex (I think it was group of 10 or 20 men). None of them gay - all of them straight men with girlfriends or married.

    That's who my scorn is heaped upon and always will be. The ones who really commit such atrocities with no concern for the victims.

    PowerCrazy,

    Fuck off you sexist rape enabler.

    tygerprints,

    No thanks. I can do much better. You'll have to learn to fuck yourself - or you'll have to be a rape victim to have any hope of a sex life. Happy holidays!

    PowerCrazy,

    I didn’t say “fuck you”. I said fuck off. But apparently a rape enabler like yourself can only experience life through transactional sex acts that you have a ranking system for.

    So I’ll just state plainly, you are wrong about everything you think about sexuality, sex crimes, and feminism.

    slacktoid,
    @slacktoid@lemmy.ml avatar

    The bottom b*tch is almost always a woman.

    Boiglenoight, in Biden’s Israel Policies Are Still on the Wrong Track

    I’m very unhappy with Biden’s stance toward Israel. What strategic significance does that state have that outweighs what increasingly looks like genocide? It has to be something so important yet unpalatable to the voting public that it’s worth appearing to come down on the wrong side of history.

    Does anyone have any ideas? Is having a western democracy in the middle east that we can work with worth giving said government carte blanche to exterminate their neighbor?

    cecinestpasunbot,

    The US has a long track record of supporting some of the most brutal regimes all around the world if it serves their geopolitical interests. In that way its support for Israel isn’t much of an anomaly.

    More specifically though, Israel serves as a base from which the US can project military power. That prevents other states in the region from taking full advantage of their natural or geographic resources.

    For example, the US wants to ensure oil is traded in US dollars. That creates demand for the dollar which inflates its value relative to other currencies. In that way, US financial capital is given an advantage over the rest of the world. This arrangement isn’t necessarily ideal for oil rich countries as it essentially means some of the value of their oil is getting siphoned off. However, the threat of military intervention may keep these states in line. However, many of them have started to experiment with trading in other currencies which might make the US uneasy.

    The second thing I can think of is the US wants to ensure Egypt does not use the Suez Canal as a political weapon like it has historically. In such cases, Israel has been used as proxy through which western countries invaded Egypt to try and take back control of the canal. Since the canal remains very important trade route from which the US and its allies benefit, the US needs some sort of leverage to ensure it stays open to them.

    Boiglenoight,

    I really appreciate the insight. I don’t think those things are worth US maintaining power in that region, but I imagine if I’m in the shoes of a world leader I might see things more ambiguously.

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