With as much fear I have for the deletion of the jews living in israel by hamas, mujahadeen, and hezbolah, this conflict was clearly sculpted by Netanyahu.
He’s said loudly and frequently that he wants Hamas to be the one in power in Gaza.
“Let us not ignore the truth among ourselves … politically we are the aggressors and they defend themselves… The country is theirs, because they inhabit it, whereas we want to come here and settle down, and in their view we want to take away from them their country. … Behind the terrorism [by the Arabs] is a movement, which though primitive is not devoid of idealism and self sacrifice.” — David Ben Gurion. Quoted on pp 91-2 of Chomsky’s Fateful Triangle, which appears in Simha Flapan’s “Zionism and the Palestinians pp 141-2 citing a 1938 speech.
This whole thing is disgusting. Nazis suck. So do people calling for violence or removal of rights from literally any human. Buncha Nazis in here, just against a kind of person it’s ok to be horrible to.
This is actually a philosophical problem. I think it’s the parable of pacifism, if I remember right? Basically, the advocacy for total pacifism and acceptance of all groups doesn’t work if one group is specifically advocating for the death of the others because then there’s a net loss.
It’s the paradox of tolerance and it’s bullshit. Daryl Davis has converted more KKK members talking to them than anyone has with a fist.
Edit to add: killing Nazis doesn’t defeat fascism. You can kill people with weapons, but words are the armaments of ideas. You want to kill an idea, it’s through words.
Oh snap, Nazis all died in ww2? Fuck why didn’t these guys get the memo?
People died in the war. Some of them were Nazis. But NAZIS themselves did not die. You can’t kill an IDEA by killing people. You kill an idea with better ideas, with kinder words, and with more compassion.
This thread IS full of a bunch of psychopaths, but it’s not the ones advocating for not-violence.
By all means, if someone’s already getting, or in imminent danger of becoming, violent, do what you have to to stop that. Anything else and you’re a murderous psycho.
It’s not about converting nazis. First off, I’ve heard that he supposedly has a 95% success rate and I’d call that bullshit for basically anyone claiming a 95% success rate. Secondly, fuck nazis. Once you throw in on murder of innocents you’re no longer innocent.
“oh that’s not very tolerant of you!” neither is your burning of crosses and donating your money to defend people who strung people up in trees 🤷
My? Careful, don’t make such bold assumptions. Nazis suck, I’m with you on that. But do you actually not see the issues with what you said? Why are we assuming the individual has done something to hurt anyone, rather than just have some less-than-savory beliefs? It’s all very convenient, using the sins of a few in a group you hate to blame the whole group, right? I’d hate it if anyone else decided they hated a group enough to wish every member dead because of some small populations shitty actions. It’s a bit thought policey, and a lot fucking insane.
using the sins of a few in a group you hate to blame the whole group, right?
First off, I was very specific in my condemnations. Re-read my comment instead of using your reflexive pro-nazi mentality.
Second off, the nazis aren’t a loose blanket grouping of ideologies. They had a specific mindset, with a specific goal. I’m willing to play with the idea that “boots on the ground” soldiers were just taking a paycheck, but anybody ideologically onboard was so specifically for one reason and one alone.
It’s only “thought policey” in the way that you can be charged for having a murder vision board of your ex laid out with their movements and company all laid out for the perfect murder. No, you HAVEN’T committed a crime but all signs point to “You’re gonna commit a crime.”
TLDR: Fuck you if you don’t want to get yoked up for being a nazi, don’t put in with nazis. 🤷
It’s a shit argument and it’s ABSOLUTELY thought policing. You can’t say someone will do something until there’s been something done. It’s just not how things work. Yes, that includes if they strongly believe that any specific group of people should be killed, for any reason, unless they’ve ACTUALLY KILLED A PERSON OR MADE AN ATTEMPT. Anything short of that? That’s called thought policing bud.
Unless you’re not talking modern-day Nazis. If you’re just talking about the WW2 Nazis that actively rounded up Jews and didn’t see any problems with it, well… Yeah, we went to war over that. It was one of the few good reasons for a conflict. That’s dead and done.
Your entire argument is we’re not allowed to so much as CRITICIZE a nazi until they commit a genocide, regardless of the fact that they already did that once.
Eat my whole ass, you murderous nazi piece of shit.
Who said anything about not criticizing them? Jesus you are unhinged. The fuck you think I’m doing everywhere else? Making actual fucking arguments about why Nazis are bad, not just spouting “kill people kill people!”
Do you want to END Nazis or do you just want to be able to KILL Nazis?
It’s called the “Paradox of Tolerance” if we are tolerant of all including the intolerant than intolerance will eventually win out and eliminate tolerance, therefore society should not tolerate the intolerant.
Guyana, since 1899. This is quite literally propaganda trying to drum up support for Venezuela's illegal invasion via tying the USA's support for Guyana to the Isreal - Palestine war.
It was disputed before the oil was found, but the ownership wasn’t pushed much because the land was not particularly valuable.
In colonial times, first, both were owned by Spain. Then the Dutch colonized Guyana, but a definite border was never set between Guyana and Venezuela. Then the British conquered Guyana from the Dutch. The border dispute was inherited by Venezuela and Guyana.
It’s not as simple as “Guyana has oil, Venezuela wants oil, Venezuela is invading Guyana for their oil.” Instead, oil has been found mostly offshore of land Venezuela has always claimed as its own. On top of this, the oil is mostly being extracted by countries that officially consider Venezuela an enemy state, and those countries are deploying their military forces much closer to Venezuela’s undisputed territory than their own (though this is, of course, nothing new to the United States, who don’t even hesitate to conduct patrols in the South China Sea, let alone the South Caribbean).
It’s impossible to say for sure, but if Guyana wasn’t solidly aligning itself with the United States and its corporations, it’s unlikely that tensions would be as high as they are.
Venezuela had the US represent it in a boundary dispute with the UK over British Guiana. They settled things back in 1899. Then in 1962 Venezuela decided to stop recognizing that settlement. The UN has been pushed Arbitration several times and given steps to settle it but it has not officially been resettled. The UK and Guyana have administered the area the entire time. Venezuela has no legitimate claims and it is basically sour grapes that Maduro is using to distract his shitty his dictatorship is.
I wonder why they haven’t tried rigging up suicide boats yet. Boats with no crew except some mannequins rigged up to look lifelike. Control them with radio or satellite, fill them with c4 or a similar explosive, and when the Chinese boats try to ram them, detonate the boat.
We are past peak oil, the world is already transitioning away from fossil, out of sheer necessity, because of the finiteness of conventional resources. Everyone involved knows that. The only “problem” is the timeframe: there’s about a decade left of investments towards capacity increase at the current pace before going over the carbon budget for a 2°C warming scenario. That’s a tough deadline to navigate for those countries.
Information Technology & Innovation Foundation (ITIF) says China was the world’s leading producer in 2020 in seven of the 10 industries covered by its report
Curious, I wonder what might have happened to the world in 2020
October 7 was ethnic cleansing, this isn’t. Thousands of children died because of the October 7 attack. They would all still be alive if Hamas hadn’t staged the worst pogrom against Jews since the Holocaust.
they didn’t die “because of the October 7 attack”. they died because the IDF has been indiscriminately bombing civilians after the attack. nothing about the actions of Israel are an inevitable consequence of October 7. they are the deliberate actions of a far-right government. i am not ill informed, i know the facts of the situation, i have family in israel, i am a jew. your failure to recognize forced migration and mass killing of palestinian civilians as fundamentally the same as what the jewish people were subjected to is appalling. never again for anyone.
If the IDF was bombing indiscriminately, then why are they using only expensive guided ammunition in dense urban areas? Wouldn’t it be far cheaper to just lob unguided bombs randomly instead of announcing where they strike through telephone calls, messages, flyers, hacked TV stations and, most recently, an online service? How does your claim of indiscriminate bombing mesh with this extensive warning system they developed?
i have family in israel, i am a jew
Doesn’t stop you from being uninformed. You are unintentionally spreading the propaganda of antisemites by repeating claims about indiscriminate bombing.
Apparently it doesn’t stop you from being misinformed either.
The IDF haven’t been doing any of that for this part of the war they’ve been waging for 17 years. It’s laughable that you think they have. Let’s go down the list of how wrong you are:
Telephone calls: there’s no power.
Messages: there’s no power.
Leaflets: they are doing this, but they’re also bombing the safe zones they tell people to go. There’s also no food, water, or shelter in the supposed safe zones.
TV: there’s no power.
Online services (HAH): there’s no power.
People are fucking worried about cholera cause there is no clean water, and the IDF is pumping salt water into the aquifers to destroy future clean water, too.
Oh, also, if you’re a male, the IDF will take you from the safe zones, strip you naked, and use you as a human shield, regardless of what you did for an occupation and call you hamas.
The only antisemitic asshole here is the person trying to link all Jewish people to the psycho nation trying to commit genocide at worst, and ethnic cleansing at best.
If the IDF was bombing indiscriminately, then why are they using only expensive guided ammunition in dense urban areas? Wouldn’t it be far cheaper to just lob unguided bombs randomly instead of announcing where they strike through telephone calls, messages, flyers, hacked TV stations and, most recently, an online service? How does your claim of indiscriminate bombing mesh with this extensive warning system they developed?
if they aren’t bombing indiscriminately, the death toll is even more condemnable. if they are precise in their bombing, they have used that precision to butcher thousands of innocent people. in any case, saying “watch out people who have no place to go, we’re about to bomb the hospital you’re in!” is not the humanitarian victory you seem to think it is.
You literally have the highest members of the Israel government planning to drive the people of Gaza into the Sinai desert, or force other nations to take them in.
You apparently have no idea what the words ‘Ethnic cleansing’ mean.
Also, there is no way you can stretch those words into anything that Oct 7th could reasonably be described as.
I love that some of these idiots used their work email addresses. I wonder if Full Care landscaping out of Louisville, Kentucky cares that their VP of Operations is a neo-nazi?
There’s actually a simple explanation for that. Much like the “conservative/christian entertainment” industry the alt-tech movement is primarily composed of failures and hacks who couldn’t cut it in the mainstream field.
A smart racist would have to be stupid in such a specific kind of way that it would be like a zyzygy of all the stars in the sky aligning at the same time.
This article doesn't mention the recent International Court of Justice arbitration, which seems a bit dishonest.
It's true that Exxon Mobil is basically co-opting Guyana, but that doesn't magically make Venezuela right.
As for this article, it's a bit rich trying to paint Venezuela's actions as anticolonial when Venezuela has literally been petitioning the ICJ to allow Britain a voice in the proceedings as Guyana's former colonial masters.
Israeli sources responded by pointing out that successive governments had facilitated the transfer of money to Gaza for humanitarian reasons and that Netanyahu had acted decisively against Hamas after the October 7 attacks.
Nothing says "humanitarian" like cash in a suitcase. /s
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