Anybody who bought a Tesla in the last few years is a goddamn tool.

We’ve known for years that the owner is a lying, creepy, out of touch dipshit and that it’s a very flawed car and the company will cut costs to save money on safety items, every time.

Electric vehicles with drive assist are awesome and are the future, but there are alternatives, especially if you have money, which a lot of Tesla customers do. And they’re not particularly well built; how many of these do you think will be on the road 20 years from now? And now we’ve seen how Elaine runs their companies, why the hell would anybody put their trust in their products?

If you’ve bought a Tesla in the last five or so years, you’re a damn goober in my eyes. That’s my hot take, prepared for being called poor and other sodium, tear filled comments from fools whose opinions don’t matter. You are the hardcore, foaming at the mouth Segway fan from the 2000s, have at me lol.

Update: The teary eyed, sweaty fingered responses to this are predictably hilarious. I’ve been called a guy that eats 4 pizzas a week in another old thread because of this, a cunt, a tool, a douche, a couple people spent their energy to tell me they don’t understand me spending my energy posting this, some people are telling me something about Tesla or Elaine living in my head rent free. All genuinely pathetic responses, so GG lol. Cheers.

Octavio,

I hate Musk with a white hot intensity but I want Tesla to succeed. I think it’s important to stop burning oil, and I think the traditional car industry would drop EV production like a hot potato if the Tesla threat went away. I drive a Ford PHEV and I have a short commute so I buy gas a couple times a year. It was the better option for me, but I want people to keep buying teslas. So, they’re not tools, they’re smart, good-looking, and wonderful dancers.

m13,

Electric cars / Tesla aren’t doing anything to save the environment. Their only purpose is to keep the car industry going a bit longer.

How is the energy produced that goes into the vehicles? What about the workers in the “we’ll coup who we like” countries which dig up the resources to build the batteries? What about all the resources to build the things? What happens to the cars after the battery is done?

We should instead be thinking about building a better world where we don’t need to rely on cars to go to meaningless and harmful jobs. Cities should be more hostile to cars in general, and build environments which are more pedestrian / bike / remote worker friendly.

chakan2,
@chakan2@lemmy.world avatar

Meh… Tesla has done it’s job pushing us to EVs. The big players all have an EV that’s competative to superior than what Elon is offering.

It’s a self sustaining cycle outside of Tesla now.

MedicPigBabySaver,

Yep. Tesla can eat shit.

stringere,

I love my Leaf. Only 129 miles for range and can take longer than 12 hours to charge in my garage but not having bought gas for almost 5 years has been great and it’s a joy to drive an electric car. I compared the Leaf to the Tesla Model 3 at the time and could find no reasons that the Leaf wasn’t a better use of my money. Tesla electric cars seem like more of a status symbol than an environmental or economic decision in today’s EV market.

Mcballs1234,
@Mcballs1234@lemmy.ml avatar

I’m a bike driver and Teslas wanna hit me left and square and I can’t hear those removed. I get it the gas cars are probably gonna go extinct within 180 years, but telsas suck on build quality and those removed are expensive to do any repairs, where is my RIGHT TO REPAIR!!!

Nacktmull,
@Nacktmull@lemmy.world avatar

Cars no matter what kind are not the future, at least in urban spaces. Everyone who still believes that in 2023 is a damn goober in my eyes.

!fuckcars

stratoscaster,

I think they could have their place, just not under wonton capitalism with no regard for the environment

ttmrichter,
@ttmrichter@lemmy.world avatar

I could stand for a bit more wonton capitalism. They make tasty soup!

Or did you mean “wanton”?

stratoscaster,

Lmao no I definitely meant wonton. I could also go for some…

Redonkulation,

I’ve had mine for 5 years. I wanted an EV and at that time (in the US) there really was no option even remotely close with the combination of range, charging convenience and technology.

Elons downfall sometimes makes me slightly embarrassed to be associated to it in any way, but its still a great car, not perfect but great. 5 years and I’ve had to replace a set of tires, wiper blades and fluid, and 2 sets of cabin air filters. That’s it.

Its popular to hate on Elon and its rightly deserved but come the fuck on.

newthrowaway20,

No half measures. !fuckcars

Bonskreeskreeskree,

Fuck cars is like libertarianism. It sounds great at first until you actually really think about it

AFKBRBChocolate,

Full of people who live in big cities and/or small countries. The US is mostly very spread out and sparsely populated. Getting rid of cars just isn’t feasible.

abessman,

Getting rid of cars just isn’t feasible.

Getting rid of cars is inevitable. The amount of resources it takes to maintain anywhere close to a 1:1 suburbanite:car ratio is massively unsustainable. Read that word again. Unsustainable. It doesn’t say “makes environmentalists sad”, it says “cannot be sustained”. Cars will go away, and everyone currently clinging to a car dependant lifestyle will have a bad time.

speedmaster,

I have a Model Y since nearly a year now and it’s overall the best car I have ever owned. Drawbacks? So far no. QA issues? No. Overall quality is actually on par with a similarly priced German car, if you ask me. The rear bumper? Still attached.

At the same time Tesla is the only car company where people make a direct connection between the car and the CEO. Couldn’t care less about Elmo.

Outlaw86,

Not really, Tesla was presented very much like Apple and to a lesser extent Microsoft where the persona of the “genius innovative CEO” was as or sometimes more important than the product.

zaph,
@zaph@lemmy.world avatar

At the same time Tesla is the only car company where people make a direct connection between the car and the CEO.

No other CEO sends me unwanted notifications when they tweet.

Viking_Hippie,

You haven’t personally NOTICED any QA issues and the rear bumper is still attached after less than a year? Never mind then, must be the best built car ever! 🤦

MargotRobbie,
@MargotRobbie@lemmy.world avatar

I can easily tell the difference between a 2013 vs 2023 Toyota Camry.

I literally can’t tell the difference between a 2013 and 2023 Model S.

That’s the real problem.

Yewb,

Everyone i know who purchased these are disappointed after the honeymoon wears off and like the doors randomly open or fall off.

Arotrios,
@Arotrios@kbin.social avatar

I'm just over here sittin' in my lil 2006 civic hybrid, eatin' popcorn and celebrating 200k+ miles without so much as a loose screw.

iAmTheTot,
@iAmTheTot@kbin.social avatar

other sodium, tear filled comments from fools whose opinions don’t matter.

You know you can post an unpopular opinion without being a completely unlikable cunt, right?

ihavenopeopleskills,
@ihavenopeopleskills@kbin.social avatar

I struggled with this for a long time on that other site. I'm trying to do things differently here.

jayrodtheoldbod,

I had a blanket “Cool guys don’t look back at explosions” policy to posting on pretty much every other site. I decided to turn over a new leaf on the Fediverse, and try not to post anything I don’t actually want a reply to. It does tend to gentle you down a bit. Also, I noticed other people were at least giving themselves a chance to form friendships that way, so yeah, new deal.

The thing that really sucks about social media is how many people are just using you as a vent pillow to scream into. It’s amazing that so many people are using so many websites that pretty much amount to somebody else’s emotional punching bag.

Buddahriffic,

Wait, how do you form a friendship on sites like this? Best I’ve had are brief friendly interactions and then I forget their username unless it’s one of the novelty accounts, in which case “interactions” feel more like celebrity appearances or like a performance than anything else.

jayrodtheoldbod,

My dude I do not even know. I have managed to be around some people who aren’t like me and gathered the strong impression that people were using social media like it was social, and not anti-social, which I am fluent in. So now I am on a brand-new policy, in the dark and stumbling around. All I can tell you is that the other people are using this thing to meet each other and exchange phone numbers eventually like actual friends. Which makes fuckin sense. If you reply back to other people like you are texting, it changes the nature of the thing. We must both be at peace with letting the thread drop, tho.

I must remind you that the normy world has been using social media to find other people to have sex with for a while, basically pull up the app, swipe swipe swipe until you find a friend for the night and put the phone away, instead of letting the demon consume the next 4 hours somehow. There’s a whole nother paradigm. It seems more entertaining.

But yeah, I think you just treat threads like chats, be cool, and see what happens eventually.

You just avoid that Reddit thing where you come in with your 1500 word truth dunk, that ain’t it.

Buddahriffic,

Yeah it’s crazy to me that people can find a sexual partner on a site like Reddit (or are you just talking about tinder and apps like that?). Meanwhile I’m here avoiding even sharing my province, though I was open about being in Canada. Probably doesn’t help that my desire to be social itself waxes and wanes.

jayrodtheoldbod,

No, I do mean sites like Reddit. The advanced users are making everything act like a dating site when they need it to, because things like tinder don’t work for everyone, so it’s double crazy that they’re making Reddit work for that.

What I was truly referring to is Discord, and all those little communities in there, lots of people making their connections, not just sex, but international friend networking. Snapchat, group chats, all that, they’re busy doing the same, there. Meanwhile, I live as a ghost, interacting with dozens of people a day online, thousands over the years, with nothing much to show for it.

Even out in the real world I’m the kinda guy who can work some place for two years and leave with no new numbers in my phone. It does keep me out of the drama, but I don’t feel I’m striking a balance, either.

So yeah, I wish I knew.

Buddahriffic,

Ooooh discord makes a lot of sense. It’s just the modern version of chat rooms which is where people were hooking up long before tinder was a thing and “a/s/l?” was one of the most common greetings between people just meeting for the first time.

ttmrichter,
@ttmrichter@lemmy.world avatar

I was always confused by why people wanted to know my age, sex, and preferred language, but I played along.

NumbersCanBeFun,
@NumbersCanBeFun@kbin.social avatar

The worst part is I mostly agree with OP but he comes across like an absolute douche.

Zorque,

That's probably because OP is posting a popular opinion in an unpopular way.

slowcurrent,

Twist: OP owns a Tesla.

Obi,
@Obi@sopuli.xyz avatar

This is just his way of coping with the self-hate.

Rasta_Imposta,

More likely OP is in fact, an absolute douche.

Zorque,

I don't see how that conflicts with what I said.

cassetti,

I would have totally considered a Tesla3 for my partner if not for all the reasons listed here.... Price wise they seemed like a good enough deal for a new Model3, but I couldn't get past the Musk factor, and the quality control issues - I would not trust my life in the hands of that company.

eusousuperior,

Although I do believe Elon has been acting like a fucking maniac for the past few years, I would still buy a Tesla if I had the money for it. There’s absolutely no other electric vehicle on the market with so much tech and so much power for so little money.

Quality? For sure others are better in this regard. But just pure fun and power? No other even comes close, and the ones that do (Porsche Taycan, etc) are much more expensive to buy AND maintain.

There’s a reason Tesla model 3 is the best selling electric vehicle in the WORLD. Shit’s good yo.

We have to know how to separate Elon, the character from the products and services his company provides. (except Twitter, it’s gonna burn to the ground.)

some_guy,

We have to know how to separate Elon

My principles don’t allow for funneling money towards people who I believe will use it to make the world a shittier place.

mikelo22,

Do you actually think the tech and gadgets you use, the clothes you wear, etc, are all made/created from some wholesome benefactor? The products we use are the result of abusing third world/developing nations, including child labor. What a hypocrite.

some_guy,

There’s the cold ugly truth about capitalism, to which I haven’t opted out. To some degree, that makes me a bad person for going along with a system I know I can’t change. And then there’s directly supporting a transphobic piece of shit who helps spread conspiracy theories online. I’ll opt not to go along with the second one.

LClaypool2112,

There’s absolutely no other electric vehicle on the market with so much tech and so much power for so little money.

That's just blatantly false. There are a lot of other options out there that are at least comparable, if not outright better, than the Tesla models.

Candelestine,

I’m not sure why you think lemmy is full of Musk fans, but I think you’ll find the guess to be incorrect. There’s not a lot of Tesla drivers on here. I know that because for the most part, the only people that are here, are ones capable of doing a little research. Ones capable of doing a little research, probably won’t buy a Tesla. People who do research on stuff definitely research their vehicles.

There’s probably a handful of people that got the early generation stuff, but probably not many. Anyways, have fun.

flames5123,

I bought a Tesla in 2018. I did my research. It’s the best car I’ve ever owned. I’ve driven it from Mississippi all the way to Washington state with no issues. It’s so cheap compared to a gas car too. I pay maybe $9.50 for 300 miles, which is way cheaper than 5.50/gallon of gas.

The drive assist is amazing in longer trips. The city “self driving” isn’t great, but it’s great to have lane keeping and distance keeping in terrible traffic.

I can turn on the AC and view my cameras from the app. What’s another car company that can view 4 angles + inside from the native app? It really helps when I have my dog and need to check in on her when dog mode is active.

Don’t get me wrong, I hate Musk, and he would probably dissuade me from getting one today.

SkyNTP,

Sounds to me like you are just a fan of electric drive trains and connectivity. None of these features are particularly unique to Tesla. Except maybe the inside camera part. Yuck, no thanks.

flames5123,

Tesla’s supercharger network is by far the best American EV charging network. I wish it were better for others, but it’s just not the case.

Tesla also has the most efficient cars. Mine gets about 250Wh/mile, while others get 350+. Hopefully others can catch up because Musk does not deserve the business.

Venomnik0,

Tesla’s supercharger network is by far the best American EV charging network.

I really think they had a headstart here considering they were one of the first major companies to start pushing for that network in the first place. Hopefully other manufacturers will start doing that as well or atleast have one universal port that they all share so they don’t have to build their own stations to do so.

flames5123,

Well yea, but they doesn’t take away from them having the best network. I wish others were better now, but that’s not how it works. Headstarts will always be awarded in tech.

Paralda,

I also got my Tesla before Elon went full crazy, and there only recently were a lot of options. Even then, most were waitlisfed for months and months. Tesla manufactures a ridiculously high percentage of the EV market. Most large car companies are still just dipping their toes in EVs.

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