In regards to that twats tweet regarding the “the Australian people” - as a member of “the Australian people” I want to put it on record that that asshat does not speak for many of us here……some of us are pleased about this (the ABC app is a far better source of news without the rubbish and downright unintelligent comments that come from posting articles on social media anyway….)
I like “twat tweet”, but really I absolutely love twats themselves and it’s somewhat defamatory to compare Elron to them (defamatory to labias etc, I mean)
Not sure if you’re being sarcastic, but the recent promotion of paid accounts has created a hostile environment and a wild spread of misinformation on just about any possible post. Staying on a broken platform and continuing to participate on it is extremely undesirable, especially when the owner is outright hostile to the idea that he’s made the platform worse.
I suspect the many people fleeing from Reddit/Spez could commiserate over that notion.
I also disagree that the system Musk has created is “free speech”, considering people who don’t pay are drowned out by those who do.
So this is "Austrailia Broadcasting Corporation", not the ABC (American broadcasting Company) which I am familiar with in the US. I presume they share no more than an acronym.
corporations can’t be on a platform where detractors can be on an equal level as them. they just want to make money and influence elections not debate about it.
Yea, nazis they probably don’t want to hear from. Also people who disagree with their support of the military industrial complex and support for proxy wars.
lets face it this was an issue way before the dipshit changed the name and logo…twitter was and is just a boiling cesspool and should beavoided at all cost.
Removed as a protest against the community’s support for campaigns to bring about the deaths of members of marginalized groups, and opposition to private entities working to prevent such campaigns, together with it’s mindless flaming and downvoting of anyone who disagrees.
I still don’t understand what gamer hate - oops, gamergate was. I’ve tried to learn for years and I still don’t get it.
Anyway, I was whatever about Twit and used it as a useless 2 word stream or consciousness feed for 5 years, which was okay. Then in 2020 I was suddenly homeless in Portland RIGHT as the Floyd protests started and I was uh…. Twitter is a useful minute-to-minute feed of events. Then I liked it for a year or two. Then, Elron.
Basically Gamergate started as some butthurt guy trying to get revenge on his ex by claiming she slept around to get better reviews on her (free) game. Gamergaters used this as an example of corruption, thus the rallying cry of “Ethics in gaming journalism”.
However, in actuality Gamergate was driven by gaming going from a niche hobby to a mainstream entertainment. Many gamers were increasingly unhappy that games stopped exclusively catering to people like them (i.e. white and nerdy males) and started making token efforts to appeal to other groups. This combined with the spark of the butthurt guy’s lame attempt at slander birthed Gamergate, a fig leaf of “ethics” used to justify and to cover up a seething mass of resentment, misogyny and racism.
The way people talk about twitter, you would think it used to be a respectable and civil forum for discussing ideas instead of people flinging shit at each other 140 characters at a time.
Yeah but nah. There was toxicity but it wasn’t promoted. You wouldn’t see a several pages of assholes who paid to stir up shit before a single actually interesting response in every single thread. It didn’t used to be like this
People overstate how bad social media they don’t use is. Twitter was usable and even fun depending on who you followed. Now it’s just bulshit everywhere.
I agree, it was definitely there, but wasn’t promoted. Now, when I go there, I’ll get notifications that someone posted… Someone I don’t follow and the post is hate filled garbage. In my notifications of all places.
The front page isn’t people I follow anymore, that’s in a different tab under Following. It’s not the default tab.
STOP USING TWEETS ON QANDA THEN! After what happened with Stan Grant ABC really need to evaluate how they use social media sites like Twitter. They needed to do this the moment Stan raised it as an issue and had to step away from his role.
Not because of the racism that Stan identified though. They’re okay with drawing a line around ‘toxic behaviour’ but not the racism, ableism, sexism, transphobia and homophobia that they have platformed for years through their use of tweets on QandA.They should have immediately responded to Stan’s experience with an assessment of how their engagement with social media enabled the racist abuse directed at Stan. The ABC has a terrible problem with racism in their own institution and have not anything to address or remedy this. Stan is not the only person who has drawn attention to this and the ABC regularly receives complaints about people like Paul Barry while continuing to give them a platform.
I hope more broadcasters will follow the BBC’s example and start running their own Mastodon servers.
It would be nice if the BBC instance had more accounts, like for breaking news, though. I know they’re just testing the waters, but they need to try having accounts posting things folks are the most interested in.
isn't it pretty hard to determine if it's worthwhile if they aren't going all-in on making it an interesting place with breaking news & accounts for certain types of news etc?
That’s my feeling. They’ve created 4 accounts for things people can’t really interact with. Making a sports account on Mastodon, which is honestly most populated by tech nerds? Y’all. No. You’re doing it wrong.
Even one news account would be so much more useful.
Was a interesting reaction from some in the fediverse stating they would block the BBC instance etc. In reality how welcome are entity’s that are seen as corporate?
I also cannot understand why the BBC news is not live, possibly they are experimenting with the moderation and management elements. I guess the news feed would get hit harder than Radio 4.
Iirc, the big instance declaring immediately that it would defederate with them was one that’s very well known for being strict with moderation and had firm rules about anti-trans instances. Because the BBC has a history of being anti-trans, they defederated.
That’s a total misunderstanding of what the BBC is. As a public broadcaster representing the whole of the UK, it has a duty to represent all views. While I personally disagree with them, gender critical or TERF views are extant in the UK at present and the public conversation on where this will all land legally is still ongoing, therefore they have an obligation to hear from all sides, no matter how unpalatable one of them may be to some.
Because by and large society has decided that racism is a bad and unacceptable thing. There’s pockets of it about but no one is taking that seriously. The current discussion around gender and how society moves to accommodate peoples exploration of their identity in the modern world is still very much ongoing.
I don’t agree with the gender critical or “TERF” arguments, I’m very much of the belief that everyone should be allowed to identify and live as their chosen gender with access to the rights and services that dictates. However some people don’t, for various reasons.
We can call them bigots and attempt to shun them and hide them away, but it’s not going to stop smaller news outlets that are actually bigoted like GBNews or Talk TV having them on without the pro-Trans counterpoint that the BBC would have.
Better to shine a light on these people and force them to justify their beliefs in a neutral environment than spred then in one that’s already in agreement with them no?
Removed as a protest against the community’s support for campaigns to bring about the deaths of members of marginalized groups, and opposition to private entities working to prevent such campaigns, together with it’s mindless flaming and downvoting of anyone who disagrees.
There are lots of people who just want to hear that they are right, that others agree with them. They would rather hang out in an echo chamber where it’s constantly reinforced that their opinions are right rather than hear people who disagree with them.
Personally I value hearing and understanding why others have different opinions than I do.
That’s quite a revelation to me, it has more of a reputation of being extremely liberal and indeed any even remotely right winger here usually whinges and moans about how “woke” it is 🤷🏻♂️
Do you know what in particular triggered their stance that they believed the BBC anti-trans?
Sadly in UK transphobia seems to be pretty common in liberals and liberal institutions. I think that is because in UK the idea to connect transphobia with “womens rights” was really successful and this results in otherwise really liberal / left leaning / feminist individuals & groups to be actively anti-trans. As far as i know even otherwise trust worthy news papers like the guardian plattform anti trans talking points.
Removed as a protest against the community’s support for campaigns to bring about the deaths of members of marginalized groups, and opposition to private entities working to prevent such campaigns, together with it’s mindless flaming and downvoting of anyone who disagrees.
I hate defederation with a passion and I’m close to leaving lemmy.world because of its rash defederating. There is no reason to restrict users based on what the few leaders believe.
Most of the defeds I have seen have had pretty serious community interaction prior to the decision. You need to stop seeing admins as leaders. And so does everyone else.
An admin certainly has some power over their instance, but the users are not locked into that instance at all. They are not telling people what they can see, they are telling people what they are willing to host, or not host.
Everyone deserves a voice. But nobody is responsible for giving them a megaphone and a box to stand on in their yard.
It’s very different than a site like Facebook or Twitter banning someone. Nobody is kicking them off the internet… just making sure their own site only shows what they want. If you want to see whatever they defederated with, of course you can go there directly or to another instance.
It’s kind of ironic as despite having “corporation” in the name, the BBC is quite a “socialist” endeavour on how it’s funded and available to all uk citizens for a flat fee.
Socialist as in they send enforcers to your house who have the right to force themselves inside and check how many screens you have got feeding government propaganda into your skull.
You have to pay a TV licence to be lied to. Pretty sweet.
There are some on mastodon that want to live in a fairly defensively disconnected/defederated bubble (compared to many other instances or lemmy/kbin).
And, IMO, that’s totally fine and good … freedom of association gives people and instances that power and it should be embraced when people chose to exercise it TBH, so long as it’s done by admins in a way that isn’t too autocratic against their users and open and transparent.
I even noticed that ARD and ZDF have their own Mastodon servers/instances. But I’m interested in how the BBC’s experimental Mastodon server would fare after their stated six-month time frame.
Up to this point, a lot of the news company’s online presence was probably pretty cut and dry. Some of my local news stations have terrible websites that take forever to load, yet those websites were probably cutting edge at some point. One of them has a layout that hasn’t changed in at least 10 years.
If their IT department hasn’t expanded their skills beyond making and maintaining those original websites, I could totally see a long delay happening before/if they join the fediverse.
If their IT department hasn’t expanded their skills beyond making and maintaining those original websites, I could totally see a long delay happening before/if they join the fediverse.
More likely they aren’t given the budget they have requested.
They are also probably busy doing regular IT things like maintaining the IT infrastructure.
Local news stations don’t really exist in my country so I don’t know how many employees they usually have but it’s possible they don’t even have an IT department.
Some of my local news stations have terrible websites that take forever to load, yet those websites were probably cutting edge at some point.
Nah, most local news sites came online as garbage and will never rise above that status. The cleverest of them came online as bare bones, no frills websites that the affordable local website developer they hired could actually maintain.
most local news sites came online as garbage and will never rise above that status
The amount of pop-ups, sleazy Taboola ads, and autoplay videos (with 2 ads at the beginning and end of a 30 second clip) is too damn high. Just clicking a link is a fucking assault on your eyes. And yes some form of this still happens to me with adblockers or firefox.
I guess I thought the goal was to get people to use their websites, not fucking punish them for it.
Yeah pretty much, they might as well say “we’ve decided to sack Jerry from the Social Media team” because this isn’t actually exiting twitter it’s more like reducing someone’s workload lol.
All the accounts for all their shows, as well as their journos. They produce a lot of original content, and have a lot of journalists. This is not an insignificant measure.
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