AustNerevar,

Bummer, I was gonna make fmhy my main instance!

ryannathans,

It was my main instance 💀

LemUrun,

Mine too…

Now it’s pawb.social. I wanted .social instance and this was the first in awesome-lemmy-instances repo on GitHub.

macrocephalic,

Yep. Annoying I don’t even remember all my subs etc.

BrandoCalrissian9229,

same, frustrating as heck

CthulhuOnIce,

it was my main instance literally like 2 weeks until this happened

Gamey,

The domain bs is a interesting case of scummy practices in general, .tv was missused in a similar way with awful contracts, essentially scamming a already increadably poor country!

abbotsbury,
@abbotsbury@lemmy.world avatar

Didn’t Tuvalu massively benefit from being assigned a TLD that is popular? I read they were able to build an airport with .tv money

ProfezzorDarke,

They reclaimed many domain rights and are now renting them out for big money, yeah. They were still scammed off by many.

Gamey,

Yea, they managed to get it back at some point but it was under external control with close to no benefit for them for a long time!

damnYouSun,

There is also .io for the Indian Ocean territories. They seem to be fine with it. It is interesting they have problem with it. I wonder what the actual motivation is, because it can’t be due to a lack of viable domain for businesses.

Gamey,

The US and UK build a military base and established it with that ages ago so I am not surprised the current population is fine with it but they expelled the original population to do so! :/

anlumo,

TLDs are a non-tangible arrangement of characters that are defined by a committee at a whim. The countries they are given to have not contributed anything to make them worth more. I don’t see how that can be seen as a scam when they don’t get free money based on a random decision by someone outside of their country.

Gamey,

That’s not actually true, the guy who made them originally was from the west and those countries didn’t contribute because they had no chance of any digital infrastructure yet but top level country domains use caracters from the correspinding countries name and those are all determind in the same way so you essentially use their name without their permission or based on scetchy and scummy legally binding agreements!

Takumidesh,

If you tried to trademark any of these tlds, it would fail horribly.

TV, ML, IO etc are literally just two letter combinations and they are descriptive by nature. There is no real way to claim ownership on just two letters, especially when they have an accepted understanding as being geographically descriptive.

If you could do this, concepts such as maps would also be infringement.

Additionally, the IANA is who is in charge of assigning TLDs, which is in turn controlled by ICANN. IANA gets to appoint trustees for country code TLDs and has the authority to take that control back.

IANA is based in the United States(though it has stakeholders globally) and has the authority to revoke TLD (unlikely to happen, but well within their rights and control) and more likely, to re delegate control to another authority, if they found the currently appointed trustee to be abusing the control of the TLD.

teydam,

.ml was a terrible name anyways. People just kept saying everyone was a tannkie whether or not true. Not the image that’s going to help you grow or your ideological goals imo

kameecoding,

how does ML make people it’s tankies?

edit: nvm comments lower say Marxist/leninist

ijeff,
@ijeff@lemdro.id avatar

This hadn’t even occurred to me. I saw it as millilitre!

Dark_Blade,
@Dark_Blade@lemmy.world avatar

…not even gonna lie, I thought it had something to do with machine learning at first.

gobbling871,

Major oof

const_void,
@const_void@lemmy.world avatar

Why was .ml selected to begin with?

qwamqwamqwam,

.ml stands for Marxist/Leninist apparently. Communists try not to let idealism get in the way of practicality challenge(impossible)

To be fair this is a pretty crazy black swan event they couldn’t have possibly seen coming. But yeah, this is why novelty domain suffixes are novelties.

hyperhopper,

It was totally possible to see coming. The .ml domain deal and its expiration was known far in advance and I’ve been seeing posts about it for months.

This is 100% incompetence on whoever set up the site.

emergencyfood,

Lemmy was started in 2019. And before the Reddit meltdown, it was more a bunch of very nerdy friends for whom a server going down was Tuesday.

deadbeef79000,

TIL Lemmy was created by M. Bison.

ilmagico,

Interesting … I always wondered why the .ml. In my trade ML is mostly used to mean “machine learning”, aka AI, but it didn’t seem fitting here.

GONADS125,

No that’s not true… .ml is the TLD for Mali and lemmy.ml selected it because it was free… This claim you’re making is like people claiming AC/DC stands for anti-christ devil-child. No, it’s electrical currents, hence the lightning bolt…

With that said, they did censor anti-china rhetoric, had many pro-china trolls/brainwashed users, and started censoring words, including “bitch.” So I’m not defending the instance. But this claim about what .ml means is just blatantly false! It’s a country’s TLD!

ryannathans,

Free

Photographer,

Considering the cost to host servers and develop both the backend and the Jerboa app, I dont think $10 a year on a .org would have ended the project?

ryannathans,

Yeah so would have been a goad investment for ten bucks to keep the instance up

Also, hosting an instance doesn’t mean you have to develop anything

Photographer,

the lemmy.ml instance is run by the devs though and lemmygrad is closely connected to it

ryannathans,

Ah, op pic is from fmhy.ml

QZM,

Always thought it’s a play on machine learning, but I’m most probably wrong.

Photographer,

Many people said it was because “Marxist Leninist”

MrJameGumb,
@MrJameGumb@lemmy.world avatar

I just had to do this to get back on here… Does anyone know if there is a way to transfer posts like it says here?

BarterClub,

They would have to. We can move our stuff

mdwalters,
@mdwalters@pawb.social avatar

rip my website

notenoughbutter,

I like how this mastodon app you are using actually says its name inside the dynamic island

BarterClub,

The chat is not mastodon but a different one. Yes I love Mona. Feels familiarans has a lot of options

ieightpi,

in confused. ml doesn’t seem to be down anymore.

MrMonkey,

lemmygrad.ml and lemmy.ml are gone? So sad.

Anyway.

Aldrond,

Unfortunately, it seems the tankies are gonna tank right on (over the bodies of students).

kworpy,

Best comment

macrocephalic,

Fmhy.ml is also gone.

AndreTelevise,
@AndreTelevise@lemmy.world avatar

both are up, but fmhy is down, maybe forever

CthulhuOnIce,

both are still up, but fmhy.ml is down

rob_t_firefly,
@rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world avatar

Link to the actual post OP screenshotted: very.bignutty.xyz/notes/9hf13it1ced3b2za

Screenshots of text are not the way. The crappy “hey, a text thing I want to share, let me take an accessibility-poisoning screenshot and upload that graphic file like a psychopath instead of just copy/pasting either the link to the text or the text itself like a decent human being” routine needs to die with Reddit, we have to be better than that here.

phx,

Screenshots of text preserve the state of the text at the time it was seen…

Yes, it’s not good for accessibility but it’s a good way to quickly capture a moment in time.

(I would recommend perhaps also copy/pasting a synopsis for people who might be vision impaired etc)

rob_t_firefly,
@rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world avatar

So copy/paste the text for your snapshot, and link to the original.

phx,

That’s kinda what I was saying? Include the snapshot but also the original text body as a copy/paste for those using screen-readers or other such tools

Phlogiston,

Also, modern tools are getting pretty good at dealing with text embedded in images. It isn’t ideal but this partially mitigates a large concern (accessibility). Rather than complaining about people taking screenshots maybe pressure should be placed on the screenshot tools, and image formats, to better capture the raw text exactly and embed it as extra data along with the image.

mob,

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  • rob_t_firefly,
    @rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world avatar

    So copy/paste the text, and link the original.

    In the case of this post, the ability to go to the original and learn the further info added by the author in subsequent posts is of use.

    mob,

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  • rob_t_firefly,
    @rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world avatar

    Screenshots are no more unalterable or trustworthy than text. Why not copy/pasted text and a link?

    mob,

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  • rob_t_firefly,
    @rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world avatar

    No, but everyone can access and read that in their own choice of viewing tech without problem, even on very large or very small monitors, even through automatic translation apps, even in an audio screen reader or a braille interface.

    An important part of the fuel of the exodus from Reddit to here was Reddit deliberately shitting on users who happen to have special accessibility needs. Lemmy - the software and the user community - needs to be better than that to earn its place as rightful successor.

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  • ArcticCircleSystem,

    It’s not a compatible format with screen readers. I’d say use a site like the Internet Archive maybe? ~Cherri

    hypelightfly,

    They can do that in the image as well. For example:

    jackoneill,

    We should copy paste the text, post a screenshot as an attachment, and a link, and then carve the screenshot into a stone tablet to be put on display in the basement of the british national history museum

    holy shit guys, just post the data however the fuck is easiest

    ArcticCircleSystem,

    That’s not necessarily accessible to disabled people who have to use screen readers though. ~Cherri

    BarterClub,

    I did share it. It’s in the comments.

    jeena,
    @jeena@jemmy.jeena.net avatar

    Screenshots stay with time, I hate it when I arrive a bit later and the link is already dead and I have no idea what it said.

    ramjambamalam,

    If you can post an image, you can post text, right?

    Obi,
    @Obi@sopuli.xyz avatar

    Image in the post, text+link in the description, everyone happy.

    hypelightfly,

    Copy/pasted text stays with time too and doesn’t have the issues that pictures of text do. Also hosted images disappear all the time.

    Cyyy,

    …except when the image hoster suddenly dies and 10000s of Screenshots suddenly vanish from the internet and all howto’s etc are killed by it

    jeena,
    @jeena@jemmy.jeena.net avatar

    That’s why you shouldn’t use external image hosters but embed the picture the normal way. Then if the lemmy instance dies then the screenshot dies with it but not seperatelly.

    Cyyy,

    well, often webprojects don’t have that much money and hosting communitys who post a lot of images, videos etc. costs a lot of money. because that a lot of users use imagehosters to bypass this issue.

    Imgonnatrythis,

    Yeah, it’s 2023, just take a video of your screen and upload that like the kids all do now.

    rob_t_firefly,
    @rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world avatar

    And then play that video on your screen, take a video of that screen with your phone while shaking the phone around and mumbling over the audio, and upload that phone video to TikTok.

    Hyphlosion,
    @Hyphlosion@donphan.social avatar

    Let the bodies hit the floor. Let the bodies hit the floor. Let the bodies hit the floor. Let the bodies hit the…

    Takes deep breath

    TheSpookiestUser,
    @TheSpookiestUser@lemmy.world avatar

    At the least, put the screenshot and the link in the post. We can do both, people.

    shashi154263,

    Yeah, this is the correct way, because posts often become inaccessible.

    astral_avocado,
    @astral_avocado@programming.dev avatar

    Yeah that’s not gonna happen

    whoamibro,

    Accessibility should be enhanced to read text from image. Enduser shouldn’t care about how he should share an information. How hard is it to read a font from a text?

    condenser,

    How hard is it to read a font from a text?

    My man, you just don’t know how crappy OCR can be with non-latin alphabet writing systems, especially Chinese characters.

    If the source is already in text (perfectly accessible), why should we make an image out of it? That’s like saying let’s email a document, but instead of the original doc file, let’s print them out, scan, and then send the pdf of those images instead.

    whoamibro,

    If the source is already in text (perfectly accessible), why should we make an image out of it? That’s like saying let’s email a document, but instead of the original doc file, let’s print them out, scan, and then send the pdf of those images instead.

    That is not a correct analogy because printing and scanning a document is less convenient than just forwarding the email. But here, most people are comfortable taking a ss and share it. That’s what they’re learnt. So they keep doing that.

    My man, you just don’t know how crappy OCR can be with non-latin alphabet writing systems, especially Chinese characters.

    That’s why the OCR tools have to be improved. They should atleast be able to read the top 10 most used fonts in a language without issues.

    condenser,

    The analogy is just an attempt at explaining, no need to argue about them. The main point is about giving preference to the original copy, not the lossy and inefficient copy. No matter how image to text conversion tools get better there always be a gap.

    Rin,

    i paid freenom for my .ga domain… i still have it for some reason

    MossBear,

    So as far as the content of what was on that server goes, does it just go away as far as the broader Fediverse, or how does that work?

    CMahaff,

    FYI I have made a tool that can backup / copy your account settings, subscriptions, and blocks to a new account: github.com/CMahaff/lasim

    There are others out there as well if you look.

    Obviously the loss of .ml communities would still be catastrophic to Lemmy, but at least your new account won’t start from ground-zero, and you can be less effected by downtime by having 2 accounts with the same subscriptions.

    ThirdWorldOrder,

    So should I just go ahead and make an account somewhere else? Made mine like a month ago and just picked ml at random

    CMahaff,

    Doesn’t hurt! You can always make another account.

    ThirdWorldOrder,

    Alright went with .one - anything i don’t know about this instance? Run by KKK or anything? Lol

    CMahaff,

    I’ve never heard anything but I’ve never looked too hard either!

    Countmacula,

    Yeah this sucks for my small but growing community. Ive created an alternative instance elsewhere (on .world) but hopefully .ml doesnt go down forever.

    vagrantprodigy,

    Using .ml was stupid in the first place. No need to try to be a special snowflake by using a sketchy TLD.

    SuddenDownpour,

    But- But- But the memes of a Marxist-Leninist instance!!1!

    Widowmaker_Best_Girl,

    Commies punching the air right now

    icyjiub,

    They should check if .cia is open if they’re want to switch over to something more fitting.

    Ddhuud,

    It’s one of the 5 TLD (now 4 I guess) that are free. The others being .tk, .ga, .cf and .gq

    We need free TLDs.

    vagrantprodigy,

    I’m aware. Using it for something like this is stupid.

    gamer,

    wow I didn’t even know that was a thing! This is useful to know, thanks :D

    RFBurns,

    I wonder if it was done on purpose after it came out that the Pentagon had typo’d “.ml” instead of ‘.mil’ and exposed a lot of sensitive emails…

    100,

    Highly doubtful much of anything majorly sensitive got leaked. Firstly even unclassified DoD emails are encrypted by default. Secondly anything classified isn’t even on a network that can talk to normal email, it’s either 100% point to point encrypted or on an airgapped network. If I hopped on SIPR (DoD Secret-level internet) and emailed a normal email address it simply wouldn’t work.

    AphoticDev,
    @AphoticDev@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    That doesn’t stop somebody from being an idiot and mentioning something classified in clearnet communications. Never underestimate the power of stupidity.

    SineNomineAnonymous,

    You highly overestimate the US army.

    Reminder that the most recent leak was done by a guy who just wanted to be right on Discord.

    Blamemeta,

    Yeah but that was intentional stupidity. Regular typos are covered fairly well.

    killa44,

    Ehhhhh, you’re missing the human element. Humans do dumb shit all the time. You can’t stop someone from reading something with their eyeballs, remembering it in their meat brain, and using their sausage fingers to type it back into something unsecured. Odds are still low of course, but I wouldn’t be so confident.

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