I think it’s par for the course for user traffic to normalize since the platform gets visitors just by simply existing.
But if they actually matched that against old users of the site, then it actually means something. Most of the users that left are usually power users and have used Reddit long enough to use third-party apps and can’t stand the bullshit changes.
Not to mention a lot of 3rd party apps are still running.
I still go back from time to time, although quite a bit less than before, but after June 30th I’ll not be going back at all since my app will be shut down and I feel it will be the same for a lot of users. No way I’m downloading the official app.
I absolutely think that the numbers are correct. If Reddit is a habit for you you will not break it immediately (unless you really dislike the changes). This is just time spent, not how much users enjoy it. And if they don't enjoy the content as much because the quality dropped they will start looking for alternatives. But for most that is a long term thing.
Perhaps you are right. It just seems suspicious that Reddit views went into rapid decline and then a few days later we get an article about how their views are back to normal.
I'm not surprised, but you can't forget that a lot of people on reddit don't really post or comment a lot. I myself was one of them, I'm way more active here than I ever was on reddit though.
On Reddit if you post anything opposite the hive mind it goes off the rails. If they are talking turkey for thanksgiving and you post ham, the reaction was that as if you murdered their only child.
Here people just ask questions and converse like they normally would in the real world.
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I know that is bs because I haven't been there in days and I probably added 100 visits a day to their stats. So they're at least a couple hundred shy. Suck my balls spez.
I know that is bs because I haven’t been there in days and I probably added 100 visits a day to their stats. So they’re at least a couple hundred shy.
The article mentions 55.31 million daily visits (average). You decreased their stats by 0.00018%. Even if all new active lemmy users had your level of activity, the other site would still return to normal. There are just so many other users.
I am not sure I believe that, it might be that bots can be active again now that the subreddits are reopened, but I know that I am not back. And I won’t be back, and I think a lot of people are staying away as well. That the traffic is now normal seems a bit sketchy.
It's interesting to see how the traffic is after 1st of July. I hate to speculate but I wouldn't be surprised when an article will comes out, stating traffic has not changed after 1st of July.
I know that I am not back. And I won’t be back, and I think a lot of people are staying away as well. That the traffic is now normal seems a bit sketchy.
I’m afraid that’s just bubble bias. Most people just don’t care or haven’t found a viable alternative yet. These +43k active users on Lemmy are huge for Lemmy, but not even a scratch for the other site.
After the initial exodus at the start of this month, you could see more and more comments demanding returning to business as usual.
I'm very curious how this is going to play out. This mostly concerns the core userbase, as in mods and the people who are the most active on Reddit. If a significant portion of those wanders off (or is straight up banned), I could see the platform desolate slowly and painfully.
I mean, they lose content and moderation. I would be very surprised if they can replace the volunteers and still maintain the quality of the moderation.
Enshitification doesn’t happen over night. It might be months before the needle moves. Platforms die because users seek alternatives, but everyone has a different threshold for when they decide to jump ship. Most people just are not paying attention and will only leave when they experience the shit of Enshitification first hand.
Twitter had to kill 3rd party apps twice in order for the mastodon migration to happen. First they did it in 2011 and then again after Elon bought the company.
I imagine a true Twitter > Mastodon level migration away from Reddit won't happen yet. But once they inevitably dump old.reddit.com, it might.
I also think reddit is still the overwhelmingly greatest source of human-written information and discussion on the planet. That will take a while to replace.
I have tried googling for things without adding on "reddit" these past two weeks, and it's... not good.
Idk their example search for “python exceptions” has the #14 link for Ruby exceptions, #15 for C++ exceptions, #17 for Make exceptions (no mention of the word python in this one).
It seems like many of the links at this point have zero mentions of the word “python” at all. Why are people paying for this?
Anyway their focus is quality over quantity. The first 13 results should have given you whatever you needed. There’s always junk at the end of searches.
My guess is that Reddit loses about 5% of traffic by shutting off API access. It isn't great, but it isn't bad either. Spez treats it as a win.
Mod burnout becomes a big thing in a year, with many major subs starting to lock threads and blanket ban harder as the more experienced mods leave and the new set isn't really prepared to handle the workload. A lot of the best of this new block are going to be alt-right, and you'll slowly see subs become more friendly to alt-right views. Mod abuse gets a lot worse.
As the entire site becomes r/conservative, expect the fights that happened with r/The_Donald to be worse and make the site more unusable. This will probably drive off more users as "everything is political". Reddit won't keep its promises on building better mod toolkits, and a lot of LBGT groups leave for other sites.
As the website starts to see a shrinking user base and still hasn't made money, either Spez or a successor goes full Twitter Musk and cuts staff to the bone in hopes of trying to keep some revenue.
Good observation about how enshittification tends to come with a drift to the far right. At the moment one of the refreshing things about Lemmy is that you can have a discussion in peace without all those people piling in. I hope this can last.
Why are all these posts about reddit being posted to /c/Technology? There are so many dedicated reddit communities. The “news” about whatever is going on (or not) over there doesn’t need to keep cluttering up this community.
Especially when they are all the same thing. Either “zomg reddit is removing mods” or “zomg reddit is totally back to normal we promise, please come back if you haven’t”
This behavior is exactly one of the things I hated about Reddit. Just people posting things everywhere they don’t belong for views and the mods wouldn’t do anything about it because it “promoted activity” even though those same mods would constantly complain about how much “work” they had to do because of how busy the 30 subs they managed were.
I think traffic is gonna plummet after June 30th. A lot of people are still using Apollo, Sync, etc. like business as usual, but once they stop Reddit will probably take another hit.
Don't know about you all, but I will continue to check reddit until Sync for reddit stops working. On July 1st, if it's no longer working, reddit is gone.
You provide your own API access key, so instead of using the developer's API access key you use your own, which as long as you stay under the request limit lets you use it with free tier. You still lose all access to NSFW content though.
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