beefcat,
@beefcat@beehaw.org avatar
  1. I don’t have a strong need to use TOR.
  2. It’s way too slow.
Mothra,
@Mothra@mander.xyz avatar

I’ve always wondered what it would be like, but I’ve also heard so many creepy stories about it I just don’t want someone hacking my bank because I’m an idiot. So I stay away from it. I wish I was more tech savy.

emberwit,

Are you confusing Tor and something like deep/dark web? Because Tor itself is just a webbrowser, it’s basically a Firefox with some modifications for stricter privacy.

Mothra,
@Mothra@mander.xyz avatar

Possibly, I know Tor is a browser but because it can be used to access deep/dark web I don’t trust myself with it. 100% out of acknowledged ignorance yes

brie,

As long as you stay off of any .onion sites, there won’t be any difference w.r.t. dark/deep web access. If a domain doesn’t end in .onion, then it can be accessed with a regular web browser anyway.

WorseDoughnut,
@WorseDoughnut@kbin.social avatar

I promise you that like 90% of the creepy stories you've heard are people either exaggerating or just straight-up lying to sound cool on the internet. The kind of stuff that actually needs to operate over the TOR network doesn't exactly want to be easily discoverable by normal people.

You're no more likely to accidentally stumble across illegal / dangerous content while using TOR than you are while using any other browser.

Mothra,
@Mothra@mander.xyz avatar

Thanks for the advice! I’ll keep in mind.

XpeeN,

Isn’t the problem was that back then everyone used to be a node (was it exit node?), but I heard today it’s not the case anymore so no one can actually link you to other bad things other people do.

WorseDoughnut,
@WorseDoughnut@kbin.social avatar

To simply use TOR you do not need to run any kind of guard/middle/exit relay (this has always been the case), but yes there is the risk of being held accountable for other users data while hosting an exit relay.

This hasn't gone away thanks to any legal precedent as far as I'm aware, so I imagine it all depends on the tech literacy of your local jurisdiction & how good of a lawyer you can afford.

XpeeN,

Thanks for the correction.

raccoona_nongrata,
@raccoona_nongrata@beehaw.org avatar

I recall reading of instances of some Tor exit nodes injecting malware into downloads. It may be a concern or it may not, but I didn’t understand the risk well enough myself or how avoidable it was or wasn’t, which is why I avoided Tor.

conciselyverbose,

There's a TOR browser, but calling tor "just a browser" is really odd and not really correct. The TOR project is the routing protocol that bounces your traffic around. You can do so through the TOR browser, but the browser isn't TOR. It also isn't the only way to use TOR.

Also, while HTTPS is close to universal now, it's still possible to use HTTP and theoretically a malicious exit node could modify any unencrypted traffic.

emberwit,

Thank you for clarification! Of course I meant the TOR browser client itself, should have been more precise.

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  • Mothra,
    @Mothra@mander.xyz avatar

    Thanks for the info! I’ll save this comment for further study.

    FirstMajesticComet,
    @FirstMajesticComet@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    Hate to burst your bubble but many of the stories are just that, stories. Vast majority of the onion sites out there are either forums like 4chan or hobbyist sites like the old days of the internet.

    Illegal websites do exist but they’re rare and hard to find, they also are subject to being taken down. They’re nothing like the stories though. In fact majority of the websites that exist when you search for these topics are just bitcoin scams, i.e. a livestream website that asks you to pay $200 in bitcoin to enter, almost certainly a scam because livestreaming over Tor is terrible due to low spead and it breaks the anonymity due to generating tons of unique traffic.

    TL;DR Tor is a tool that can be used for privacy on the clearnet it can also be used to host your own onion sites. Dark web stories do have a small element of truth to them but are mostly scary stories to tell in the dark.

    Mothra,
    @Mothra@mander.xyz avatar

    Why, no, thank you, I don’t have any appreciation for this bubble you are bursting. I figured some had to be just tales but it’s hard to know exactly how much of it is bs. So thanks.

    Fizz,
    @Fizz@lemmy.nz avatar

    Why would I use it? I get that we need it for journalists and stuff but it’s mostly used by hackers

    BobKerman3999,

    The idea is that if lots of people use it, then it’s not only for hakers

    emberwit,

    But what do people use it for? There is no point logging into your facebook and youtube accounts through Tor but thats what most people do on the web.

    wxboss,

    It’s for people who want to keep their network traffic private from say their ISP or other sniffers.

    emberwit,

    Yep, and thats nothing the average user has any interest in.

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  • FirstMajesticComet,
    @FirstMajesticComet@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    Might also be a good idea to use something like Ublock origin and Portmaster as well, don’t just try to curate ad targeting, block them, if you want to still support websites you can use something like adnauseam which clicks the ads.

    I’m not trying to say that Tor isn’t a good idea because they should be blocking ads, I think more people should absolutely use it for better anonymous browsing, I only bring up ad blockers because if people don’t want to be targeted ads they should be blocking them.

    Bonus: Add anti-adblock filters to ad-block, it helps significantly with sites that try to detect them, also spam and malware filters are essential.

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