This is funny. In the email he wrote that the only way to contact the pullpush team is to do so using the forum and, at the same time, he added a really weird ToS agreement where if you are affiliated to Reddit in any way you set that the only possible arbitration of all the disputes need to pass through, I assume, him as a judge.
I’m both impressed and weirded out. Kudos for the creativity.
I kinda like that PullPush needs to find and pay Ivan before arbitration commences. I kinda think Ivan is a random name intended to be unfindable so arbitration never starts.
So… I read the post and I’m missing a lot of context here. Is PullPush a separate third-party API that someone released to interface with Reddit’s servers?
If so, could they be sued for data scraping like this?
I mean this honestly is true. When Elon was only being 80% Elon I used to think he was a smart, cool, rich dude. Now I see him as an free stupid absolutist.
I still consider Falcon 9 to be a good thing that he made possible by funding its development and manufacturing. It’s given small companies and scientific organizations affordable access to space, and created actual competition in the small satellite launch business. It certainly inspired other companies, like Rocket Lab and Astra, to develop low-cost orbital launch and sounding rockets.
But then, all of his other anti-society things combined with him having turned into a borderline fascist moron… the scale just doesn’t level out.
But that’s the thing and it’s the reason why the praise for him always went way too far- he funded the Falcon 9. He didn’t help design it. He’s an investor, not an inventor. I wish people understood that even if they admired him.
You highlight a very important distinction my friend. Any rich asshole can fund something. It doesn't make you smart, it just makes you loaded with capital.
he bought companies that anyone with a common sense can tell would be the future and have actually smart people work for him.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Elon called for a meeting every week to introduce some ridiculously stupid ideas and his scientists have to explain to him why it wouldn’t work
The veneer cracked the day he got into it with the Thailand diver. He just assumed that since he was the smartest richest man in the world that he would naturally be tapped to solve the problem and save those kids. But he found out that no, there are actual professionals with actual experience that were needed for that job and it wasn’t a point where there was time to jerk him off and let him off easy. He had to be told to get fucked from the outset because he would just complicate things and his plan was stupid as shit. Turns out you can’t just money your way out of every problem.
Once he started calling the diver a pedo and losing it everyone sat up and took notice that something wasn’t right. But I’d say it hasn’t been until all the twitter shit that everyone else caught on fully.
There was also that fun bit where he promised to deliver 2000 ventilators during the height of the pandemic. You could almost hear the sigh of relief from the healthcare workers. He sent 1000 CPAP machines instead.
Pullpush is the spiritual successor of Pushshift. Supposedly, Reddit is threatening legal action over Pullpush’s use of Reddit’s API. In reality, I’ll be shocked if this goes anywhere
That tells me everything and nothing unfortunately. What's pushshift then? What does it do? What does it have to do with reddit? And why are reddit's lawyers sacked?
I think the implication is that no competent legal council would sign off on the messages sent by Reddit admin, therefore Reddit's legal department must have been sacked. As for the rest of it, I can't say.
PushShift was a sorta reddit archive that could be used to see deleted comments and threads - if anyone ever sent you to a ceddit, rareddit, unddit, reveddit, etc link to view a deleted post or comment thread, that information was gathered via PushShift.
Pushshift was an API service that connected with Reddit to pull information about posts, users and other data. For example you used to be able to use unddit to input a URL and get a full listing of a comment thread, showing all comments that have been purged.
This was a super handy service that Reddit all of a sudden cut off with only 1-2 months of notice. Moderators used to use this service extensively to help them moderate and actual data scientist used to integrate with it to pull out a heap of data.
The best part about pushshift was that you could take a permalink (e.g. a 5000+ point upvoted deleted comment) and see if it actually violated the rules of the subreddit OR if the admins were just being shitcunts.
Pullpush is an alternative and free API for reddit, this threat/ban is based on the assumption that pullpush is using the official reddit API, and I guess that its using it exclusively through a single reddit account which they just banned.
It has to do with lawyers because they are trying to make a vague legal threat i guess, Youtube made a similar demand of invidious and sent a C&D to them for violating ToS of the Youtube API which they do not use… So I dont think the lack of lawyers is the issue so much as lack of competent engineers who could explain to the lawyers that one does not need to use API to get content from a public website which requires no login to see contents.
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