Lemmy banner on r/place

Edit: We’ve lost to South Africa. Please help with overwriting this r/ to c/ instead!

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Template: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/ChaoticNeutralCzech/myRandomImages/main/placeLemmyTemplate.json

The previous one by The Black Company was too wide to defend against Italy. Let’s make this one! I know LEMMY.ML is not the full Lemmyverse but we don’t have space for JOIN-LEMMY.ORG now.

To use its template, install the r/place userscript (guide) and go to new.reddit.com/r/place/?jsontemplate=https%3A%2F%…
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wieli99,

Isn’t lemmy.ml down due to .ml?

DaveNa,

Is not there yet, but one can hope.

kromem,

LEHHY.HL is the best of them all.

elscallr,
@elscallr@lemmy.world avatar

Mr LEHHY is this you talking or the liquor?

littlecolt,

Use lemm.ee or Lemmy.world.

notenoughbutter,

Lemmy world already has a lot of users

we should now encourage users to use different instances

because that’s the point of using a federated platform

xmanmonk,

Was gonna upvote, but it’s at 666 and I didn’t want to change that.

Korne127,
@Korne127@lemmy.world avatar

Noooo not .ml D:
That is awful; lemmy.world would be fine or join-lemmy.org or lemm.ee, but not lemmy.ml

clay830ee,

LEMM.EE is actually fewest pixels

JudahBenHur,

and the coolest instance, with the coolest people on it

Comment105,

thanks, it’s true

megsmagik,

As an Italian I’m sorry, Lemmy is more important than our flag

Shialac,

Based

null,
@null@zerobytes.monster avatar

*.ml is not a good domain extension 😆

edition.cnn.com/2023/07/17/politics/…/index.html

SeaJ,

It is also filled with tankies.

JudahBenHur,

whats tankies, precious?

Karyoplasma,

A tankie is a communist or Marxist-Leninist.

SeaJ,

Specifically the authoritarian variety.

phoneymouse,

I lean socialist, but frankly can’t get onboard with classic communism.

HerrBeter,

All these ideologies are faulty, there is no one step solution for a well functioning society. Imho Scandinavian model is the one I feel is a good path

randint,
@randint@feddit.nl avatar

2023-07-21 14:10 (UTC)

https://feddit.nl/pictrs/image/d370c1b7-9e19-4260-81bf-69cd74178072.png

Resol,
@Resol@lemmy.world avatar

Maybe I made the right choice when leaving Reddit.

Donebrach,
@Donebrach@lemmy.world avatar

what is a LEHHY? ;(

Saneless,

A huch better reddit

JudahBenHur,

heyoo

RagingNerdoholic,

Of course it links to the domain that’s probably about to die in short order. This is why open source can’t have nice things.

mrmanager,
@mrmanager@lemmy.today avatar

Lols :)

p03locke,
@p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Thank god it’s not lemmy.world. Far too many people think that’s the “main” or only Lemmy server.

altima_neo,
@altima_neo@lemmy.zip avatar

ml was first one that was being pushed on Reddit though.

professor,

Spend money on server and bandwidth? Yes.

Spend $9 on a reputable domain name rather than a domain name you technically “rent” from an unscrupulous registrar that eventually takes back domains and redirects them to adult websites? Thus leading to them getting sued by Facebook and bringing enough attention to Mail for them to take back the domains? Nah.

Icarus,

wait, really ?

prole,

Apparently Mali is pissed and want their .ml domains back

Icarus,

will it not be possible to register those domains again ?

Saturdaycat,
@Saturdaycat@kbin.social avatar

Congrats, you went on reddit and contributed to place just as spez wants.

grill,

More people being aware of lemmy on reddit is also good thing in the long run isn’t it?

Saturdaycat,
@Saturdaycat@kbin.social avatar

Not r/Place imo, it's 100% feeding back into reddit directly and is clearly bringing back even Lemmy users just to engage. Deleting comments or editing existing ones with comment about Lemmy or something and just leave reddit.

Or only contribute to "reddit alternatives" reddit. The people on there already, especially on place, won't leave reddit for Lemmy that's for damn sure. It's a pointless advertisement and is just feeding into the engagement cycle

knatsch,

Disagree r/place always was what i showed my non reddit using friends and at the moment half of the people seeing place are twitch users.

Also i can’t think of better place to advertise the fediverse than a picture with fuck spez all over it.

Saturdaycat,
@Saturdaycat@kbin.social avatar

We can agree to disagree. Have a lovely day

Elevator7009,

I appreciate that you’re actually respectfully disagreeing instead of deciding that someone with a different opinion than you must clearly be a Reddit bootlicker and a [insert more insults here]. Even if they’re still opposed to Reddit’s actions and just think the best anti-Reddit action is different from what you think it is. I’ve seen way too much of that on Reddit discussion on Reddit alternatives, so thanks for not doing that.

Saturdaycat,
@Saturdaycat@kbin.social avatar

Yeah I mean it's a matter of opinions not objective facts because it can truly go either way. I also don't want to argue online :) pointlessly it ain't my thing. Maybe that's why I'm here hahah!

Have a great day

expatriado,

doubt using reddit for free lemmy advertisement is what spez wants

Saturdaycat,
@Saturdaycat@kbin.social avatar

He just wants people at r/Place period. Whatever goes on in there is driving up reddit traffic. Pretty sure that's what he cares about the most.

Anyway agree to disagree, have a nice day

Barbarian,
@Barbarian@sh.itjust.works avatar

I would heavily recommend linking to join-lemmy.org instead of lemmy.ml.

ChaoticNeutralCzech,

I know, it’s better for decentralization to link to the directory. The Black Company tried but they were overrun by Italy. LEMMY.ML is the “shortest” Lemmy link and we cannot fit anything more unless the canvas expands or the very loose Fuck Spez Coalition lends us more space.

Stovetop,

I’d maybe just say “Lemmy is a better Reddit” in that case.

user224,
@user224@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Person: Searches “Lemmy”
Le Google: Lemmy Kilmister Mötorhead

ChaoticNeutralCzech,

or goes to Lemmy.org (which is what many are still trying to build)
…that domain is for sale for €6666 lol

Machefi,

Screenshot of domain registration site for lemmy.org domain. For sale for 6,666.00 EUR. 1234 people have already viewed this offer.

h34d,

1234 people have already viewed this offer

sounds legit

stevecrox,
@stevecrox@kbin.social avatar

If your goal is to advertise the fediverse You should have used 'kbin'.

People can go directly to "lemmy.ml" but the site might disappear due to Mali re-establishing ownership of .ml domains, also its run by a tankie which will upset some people.

"Lemmy" provides 10 google sponsored results and then 'join-lemmy', the join-lemmy website has you 'join a server' and then presents you lots of options.

During the first Mastodon surge one of their issues is people felt overwhelmed by the options and it hurt Mastodon adoption, so a single website does make a lot of sense. Personally I would suggest lemmy.world its a general instance and the admins aren't linked to any extremist views, but you said that would be too long.

If you put 'kbin' into search the top result is kbin.social, that makes it seems like a reddit alternate. It keeps user choice limited and brings them into the fediverse. That means people aren't confronted with the complexity of the fediverse immediately and can learn and understand it at their own pace.

So if your goal is to advertise the fediverse I would push kbin, if your goal is to specifically get people to use a Lemmy based website I don't think you have a good option

spacedancer,

The only thing with kbin is the lack of a mobile app. A lot of newer reddit users don’t even know there’s a website. It might be hard to convince those users to switch to kbin if it doesn’t have a mobile app.

mrmanager,
@mrmanager@lemmy.today avatar

I agree with this. There is at least five apps right now that are great for people coming from reddit, so Lemmy has that covered.

stevecrox,
@stevecrox@kbin.social avatar

Maybe I am old but I don't understand the NEED for a mobile application.

The kbin website works well on desktop and mobile web browsers with no render issues. The lemmy mobile apps all seem to be "alpha" quality.

Why is a buggy app better thana working website?

I choose an application or website based on which one works best. For example I browse Amazon via the web browser on the phone since the mobile application takes 2-5 seconds to load.

BartsBigBugBag,

Wefwef is far from alpha quality, and it is a significantly better browsing experience than browser, at least on iOS, where you have to disable content blockers entirely to get comments to load if you have one installed.

p03locke,
@p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Personally I would suggest lemmy.world

Please god no! A majority of the Lemmy population is already on that server. It’s presence on SEO and everybody’s insistence to use that server is already a problem with trying to push a federated model. The owner’s vain goal of trying to maintain the largest Lemmy server isn’t helping matters.

We’re already in a position where, if lemmy.world went down, the Lemmy federation would be in a crippled state.

rDrDr,

Lemmy.world is by far the best experience for a new user. You can convince people to move to a new instance once they’re already on lemmy.world. Starting off in a random instance is much more confusing.

p03locke,
@p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

But, people won’t just move off of their instance for no reason. The general public is too stuck on the idea that Lemmy is one domain and that your account is important to keep.

rDrDr,

Either there is a reason or there isn’t. If there’s a valid reason to move to a different instance ethen people will. If not, then what’s the harm in using lemmy.world? More importantly, people won’t move off of reddit if their initial experience with Lemmy is negative or confusing.

Wiz,

Midwest.social is friggin fantastic.

(I would have said “fuckin”, but we’re “Midwest nice” and don’t want to offend people.)

yata,

Except for the problem that lemmy.world often runs sluggishly on account of the overload.

oce,
@oce@jlai.lu avatar

I personally don’t care about Twitter like services and I think many Redditors don’t either, so kbin has some additional noise for us.

stevecrox,
@stevecrox@kbin.social avatar

Clearly you haven't used Kbin.

KBin's have two distinct views "Threads" (Reddit Style) and "Microblogs" (Twitter), the default view is "Threads". You won't see posts in the Thread view and you won't see Articles/Threads in the Microblog view

Its an option similar to Top/Hot/Newest its existence doesn't hurt

lenninscjay,

Lemm.ee is pretty short

fushuan,

Please no I don’t want my instance to get overrun by reddit users :(

I mean some are cool but if we overpopulate instances they begin having issues, have we not learnt from lemmy.world and lemmy.ml having tons of issues early July?

lenninscjay,

But we’ve also stress tested and evolved lemmy as a whole because of those instances’ troubleshooting

CrypticCoffee,

Do you really think this will pull in more traffic than the API blackout?

JudahBenHur,

sometimes your little hometown thing becomes the world thing… like the beatles from liverpool or james corden from hillington, greater london

fucking nailed the metaphor

PopularUsername,

It’s poor branding, at least if someone knows Lemmy and they see a Lemmy link, they will go to it. Lemm.ee doesn’t intuitively look like a Lemmy instance to an outsider.

lenninscjay,

Hey, that’s valid. I just know space was a premium. Personally, I don’t think it’s as hard of a leap as you make it out to be. It phonetically spells out “lemmy.” I think anyone who is curious enough to warrant a search could figure it out.

That aside, you won’t find me on r/place. I want to stay off Reddit. Those that can tolerate it enough to vent their frustration and mourning while leaving a flag pointing where to go next… more power to ‘em.

yata,

lemmy.ml is even poorer branding, because the majority of newcomers who would attempt to join it will be turned down. At least on lemm.ee they would actually be able to create an account.

Machefi,

If you have to make it a specific domain, reddthat.com seems appropriate

Rentlar,

The germans would be happy to see Feddit.de

professor,

lemm.ee?

JohnDClay,

They need to shorten it as the flags invaded, I think it was join Lemmy originally

gravitas_deficiency,

Yeah didn’t Mali re-asserting ownership of the .ml TLD create a bunch of chaos literally within the last couple days?

133arc585, (edited )
@133arc585@lemmy.ml avatar

You can thank Meta for that. They sued the registrar managing several ccTLDs, including .ml, .ga, .gq, .cf, and .tk. Meta even goes so far to fabricate a conspiracy theory about the registrar being part of a cybercriminal ring; they feign concern and wreak havoc.

JshKlsn,
@JshKlsn@lemmy.ml avatar

I wouldn’t.

That website is confusing to the average user and makes no sense. Linking directly to an instance, doesn’t matter which, gives them a familiar UI to Reddit, and allows them to click “sign up” without issue. From there they can learn about instances and join a different one.

join-lemmy.org is confusing, and makes it seem like it’s some software you download to the average user.

yata,

It is the wrong instance to link to then, because lemmy.ml has severely limited who are allowed to join it. That would just leave much more confusion and antagonism towards the concept of lemmy than the join lemmy page.

Lennvor,

Cool ! Paging @donnachaidh & @TruckBC & @randint if they haven’t seen this.

randint, (edited )
@randint@feddit.nl avatar

paging received! thanks

edit: Just did my part!

bigdangle,

There’s an ongoing fiasco with the Mali government reclaiming all .ml websites. Fmhy lemmy is already gone as they used a .ml. You may want to link to the org instead, just in case

ChaoticNeutralCzech,

I know, it’s better for decentralization to link to the directory. The Black Company tried but they were overrun by Italy. LEMMY.ML is the “shortest” Lemmy link and we cannot fit anything more unless the canvas expands or the very loose Fuck Spez Coalition lends us more space.

100thCatMarch,
100thCatMarch avatar

Might I suggest lemm.ee? It's pretty short and doesn't have any issues with the Mali government.

Interesting_Test_814,

I came here to suggest that. Already suggested it in the black company discord and the place join lemmy matrix, seems like the idea is picking up on the place join lemmy matrix

Kangy,

Stupid question incoming… what is this lemmy matrix you speak of?

Interesting_Test_814,

matrix.to/#/:data.haus - matrix chat for coordination for lemmy on r/place

Kangy,

Thanks! Never heard of matrix before so will give it a gander!

Interesting_Test_814,

I had pretty much never heard of it either till this morin, maybe one or two mentions on lemmy.

zyratoxx,
@zyratoxx@lemm.ee avatar

The only problem might be the 100kb limit for media uploads.

I mean, it’s good because it ensures that lemm.ee doesn’t run out of storage easily but on the other hand users have to outsource their uploads or reduce their media size.

100thCatMarch,
100thCatMarch avatar

It'd be pretty good if lemmy instances had built in image compression to save on storage costs for all instances. I hope lemmy devs consider it

Usernameblankface,
@Usernameblankface@kbin.social avatar

If there can be a consensus between switching to lemm.ee or Kbin, I'd love to lend my pixel to either of those.

anewbeginning,

Is it related to the news of us military secrets being sent to ml emails?

Blamemeta,

Thats just typo shit. The real reason is the contract ended.

couragethebravedog,

Yeah .ml domains were free but I’m sure that wouldn’t last forever.

GamingChairModel,

The guy that currently runs the .ml registrar is warning the US military that a lot of emails meant for .mil addresses are ending up on mail servers that he currently controls, and will end up in the hands of the Mali government very soon. He set up the navy dot ml and army dot ml domains years ago to intercept and discard those mistyped emails, but is renewing his efforts to contact the US DoD about the issue because he’s losing access/control of those servers when the Mali government takes back .ml.

Sc00ter,

Oh is that where that instance went. Was wondering what happened.

p03locke,
@p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

What org? Not lemmy.org. Join-lemmy.org is too big.

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