The final nail in Reddit's coffin dropped today:

Dear User,

We will soon begin rolling out changes to Reddit’s User settings. It is getting a refresh that includes changes to ad personalization, privacy preferences, and location settings.

As part of these changes, we are retiring a setting that you have previously turned on that limited how we used your activity from the Reddit platform to personalize ads. We have replaced the setting with a new option to select categories of ads that you may not wish to see.

More details are available in our announcement and help center.

These changes are rolling out starting today and you may see the changes over the next few days.

Users will be tracked with no opt out. Posts may be monetized, which will make content even worse No refund or any type of usable credit for users that spent hundreds on Reddit coins The entire vibe has done a 180° since all these new “positive changes” are rolled out.

co209,

It’s not the end of the world, it’s the end of the world as we know it.

Reddit is becoming a harsher place for the kind of community-driven, higher investment content that made it what it is today (which is less profitable) and a better place for mindless scrolling and sleazy engagement-baiting mostly fed by automatic content aggregators (which is more profitable).

Plenty of communities will remain due to inertia: switching platforms is hard. As far as I’m concerned, I will keep using reddit for two reasons: and to check in on a few communities that I am actually engaged in.

Haui,
@Haui@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

As a mod on reddit (who only reacts to pings these days) I would like to post an undramatic message „here‘s what happened, if you‘re interested to join our lemmy mirror, here‘s the link.“

Anyone got something I could use which will not set off reddit stans or get me replaced and the message deleted?

DrQuint,

I found that the best approach is to just have the link in the sidebar. This was how several communities first started introducing discords when it was basically an unknown piece of software. It became normalized without anyone noticing when.

Haui,
@Haui@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Thats what I did already. I might just leave it at that then. Thanks for the suggestion though. :)

Jumi,

Just deleted my account

H2207,
@H2207@lemmy.world avatar

About to go do the same, I still can’t believe how hard they fell.

Jumi,

You either die a hero or live long enough to become the villain.

shyguyblue,

How can we help improve Reddit? Fuck Spez

Jumi,

I told them the same

dirtbiker509,

On my to do list for today. Did you submit a formal CCPA delete request? Or just log in and delete?

Jumi,

I just logged in and deleted. I’m not even sure if CCPA has relevance for me as European.

dirtbiker509,

It technically doesn’t apply to you, but it totally does. They don’t have any way to validate who you are or where you’re from. So CCPA gave everyone the protection. Just ask and they have to delete the data.

Dmtr33d,

It just reminded me to as well, I was reluctant after 13 years but they can fuck off!

mojo,

We all know they’re still not going to leave. Also lol those people buying Reddit coins can get fucked.

christophski,

This is just the continuation of the instagrammification if reddit. They want to turn it into a influencer platform where people are desperately trying to make money so that they can take a big cut of it.

buzz,
@buzz@lemmy.world avatar

Guys its not enough to delete your account, you have to bring other users with u

AJB_l4u,

they banned me and ghost me also, no chance to get friends ;) but yes

flathead,

not all of them.

Rearsays,

This place won’t really win out as long as it’s exclusively just a big giant liberal communist fuck fest it has to be balanced or else it will never gain traction.

S_204,

Go to Truth social for the balance YOU are looking for, fasci.

Rearsays,

I like that you can’t differentiate speculation from your delusion

S_204,

I like that you’re a fasci loser. It’s cute.

Rearsays,

that’s okay we can both misunderstand reality I’m sure for our own reasons and that’s a beautiful thing.

S_204,

You’re so close to acknowledging you’re absolutely stupidity it’s almost cute. Selfawarewolves should become a thing here.

imeow_allday,

Wonderful

BlueCrystalFlame,

Hi, just made this account after reading that. Fuck Reddit fuck Spez

Blaze,
@Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Welcome!

ohlaph,

Welcome. Tell your friends!!

MargotRobbie,
@MargotRobbie@lemmy.world avatar

People aren’t going to leave reddit all at once right away, because structure means that individual subreddits are very much isolated from one another in terms of users.

However, it’s likely that we will be seeing some kind of cultural shift happening there as quality get worse. I feel it’s inevitable that there will be more low effort content pumped out as quickly as possible than ever before now there is an actual monetary incentive instead of imaginary Internet points, and all personalized feed and ad is going to do is isolate individual users in their individual bubble and not allowing human connections to form between them.

Things are getting better here. The regulars recongnize each other’s name and personalitu, whereas on reddit all the usernames all blends together into an amorphous mass unless it’s one of those novelty accounts or e-celeb or something. That’s the key difference between Lemmy and reddit right now.

jaek,

Couldn’t agree more. Those novelty e-celeb accounts on Reddit are getting really put of hand, aren’t they, Margot Robbie

MargotRobbie,
@MargotRobbie@lemmy.world avatar

Oh absolutely, especially those celebrities who comes in, promote their latest project, say some catchphrases, and leave. Why would they do such a thing?

Also, that’s Academy Award nominated character actress Margot Robbie to you!

flathead,

Academy award-nominated actress Margot Robbie does actually spend most of her free time modding an android group on Lemmy - but you will never see that mentioned on mainstream social media.

MargotRobbie,
@MargotRobbie@lemmy.world avatar

Seriously, it really doesn’t take that much time at all, way easier than I thought it would be.

CosmicCleric,
@CosmicCleric@lemmy.world avatar

Any advice you’d like to give that would make somebody starting modding a lot easier, would be appreciated.

MargotRobbie,
@MargotRobbie@lemmy.world avatar

Don’t micromanage, I just let people do whatever they want but encourage them to do their best, and only remove/ban for people who absolutely won’t listen to reason.

You should also get involved with your comm by talking to people there a lot, so they don’t think you are just some asshole who’s only there to ban.

CosmicCleric,
@CosmicCleric@lemmy.world avatar

Thanks for replying.

lightnsfw,

Reddit’s not going anywhere until they ban porn and the hobby communities jump somewhere else.

Death_Equity,

Just wait for old.reddit being removed, there will be another wave of new Lemmy users.

lightnsfw,

yea, if I hadn’t been permabanned that would have done it for me but there’s still enough people on there that don’t even know old.reddit is a thing for that to really kill the site. I have a feeling a lot of people are willing to just put up with their shit for the sake of not really having anywhere else to go. Unfortunately at the moment unless you want to talk about politics or Linux the pool of content on Lemmy is pretty dry and I don’t know of any better options besides going back to independent forums.

Makeshift,

I still have my account and check like once every couple weeks for 2-3 communities.

On PC, old.reddit, and no chance of getting a single ad in my face. I’m not technical enough to know if they’re getting other data from my bimonthly visits, but that’s a far cry less than my old every night visits.

As soon as they get rid of old.reddit it won’t even be reddit to me anymore. Just an ugly new thing overwriting the site I once enjoyed.

flummoxed_lummox,

I just deleted my reddit account and signed up here as well. Fortunately, I don’t know anyone else who still has an account. Most of my friends and family left a long time ago.

Blaze,
@Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Welcome!

jenniebuckley,
@jenniebuckley@lemmy.world avatar

the final nail for me happened long ago. the site has genuinely sucked for years. all the content in the top subreddits is basically ChatGPT generated rage bait, so many subreddits have turned into right wing shitholes, and Reddit themselves have proven time and time again that they do not care about their users. as always their greed has gotten the best of them

the exact same thing happened with Discord. I’ve actually disabled my Discord account and only use my Reddit out of habit at this point

Smacks,
@Smacks@lemmy.world avatar

No, this won’t kill Reddit. If they can essentially remove every third-party app, they’ll easily be able to start selling user data. Whether we like it or not, the majority stayed on Reddit.

Nothing short of somehow breaking through ad blockers like Twitch did will make people stop using it, even if that.

cactus, (edited )

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beefcat,
@beefcat@lemmy.world avatar

If you have irl friends/family that’s only on facebook you can’t really leave.

they can all still talk to you via phone, text, email, in person, etc. that is what i told all my family when i hopped off facebook

InternetCitizen2,

No easy way to share vacation or gathering photos. If I post one and my aunt comments everyone can see that discussion and join. Not so with just chat groups. Overwhelming majority want this layout and there is no easy way around it.

Genericusername,

Facebook kind of died and used the momentum it had to reinvent itself. Back in the day I used to see updates from my friends, and I used to interact with them. I stopped using Facebook at some point a few years ago and recently got back to it. I use Marketplace, and in my country people with the same hobby as me seem to interact over Facebook more than anything else. Younger people rarely upload except for a few very active outliers. Most of the content is these clickbaity short videos of 5-minute crafts or live-feeding frogs to slightly larger frogs because Facebook thinks I’m into it for some reason. They just made an addictive never-ending stream of content.

Kit,

Thanks for bringing up Twitch. I’m one of the folks who quit using the site after the ad block changes. Did an alternative ever come along?

Draedron,

Alternate twitch player.

Kit,

Can you offer some examples?

RVGamer06,
@RVGamer06@lemmy.world avatar

Xtra for android. You can find it on F-Droid

Kit,

Is there an alternative on PC? I usually watch Twitch on my computer

CosmicCleric,
@CosmicCleric@lemmy.world avatar

Whether we like it or not, the majority stayed on Reddit.

The fight may not be over though.

Where people didn’t really care about an API change for third party apps, they may care a lot more about having ads shoved in their faces whether they like it or not.

It’s all about breakings their inertia to change.

Sunroc,

People en mass make “economic” decisions. If they view an alternative such as lemmy as too difficult to use, or their communities are not here they will rather tolerate the ads. Learning to use a new app or having to start the community themselves is too much effort for most people.

thisisthelastonebtw,

If there are still Facebook and Twitter users, of which we know there are, nothing will kill Reddit.

However, I’ll say I’m someone not good at change but am agoraphobic, so my only “connection” was Reddit, and I finally gave in and deleted for good.

Still getting used to this platform, but hopefully can find less toxic users here. Social media seems to be made special for bullies.

ohlaph,

It’s a pretty great place. Glad you’re here.

cy_narrator,

I think I will be okay as long as there is content on Lemmy

synceDD,
@synceDD@lemmy.world avatar

Users now clicking I accept new TOS means the end of reddit. Talk about ignorance. Maybe stop obsessing over a website youre not even using anymore and be productive instead.

cy_narrator,

Noone is clicking, there is no option to agree(or disagree)

synceDD,
@synceDD@lemmy.world avatar

Final nail confirmed then lmao 🤣🤣🤣

Mastens,

The new update is horrible. They are blocking critical comments and gaslighting users too.

Sadly it’s not even close to the final nail. The largest reason being there isn’t anything to take its place. While I love Lemmy, there are still too many hurdles and roadblocks to getting started compared to other social media platforms and all of those established ones are doing similar moves to Reddit’s nonsense. But just like why Mastodon hasn’t topple Twitter is that the ease of use and user base isn’t there.

Until someone can offer the same(ish) experience that almost fully featured and super easy to get start. Most users won’t break their habits. They only other way is to offer something that is better than the other platforms (since this can be wildly subjective) again ease of use and standardized features are incredibly important.

Will Twitter, Reddit and Facebook go the way of MySpace? I’m sure at some point. But only until something can truly replace or pull users.

beefcat,
@beefcat@lemmy.world avatar

the community quality on Lemmy also just isn’t there yet. there are some good niche communities, but a lot of “staples” are either just not active enough or are poorly moderated.

for example, there still isn’t a good alternative to /r/Games. lemmy.world has /c/games, but their rules aren’t nearly as strict as the former, and it has lead to very poor discussion quality in comparison. All the top comments on the Starfield impressions thread a few weeks ago were low-effort, karma-whoring, single sentences complaining about pre-orders rather than actually discussing the game itself.

V4uban,

!games is pretty solid

OmanMkII,

I’d honestly say the confusion between what communities are worth subscribing to is one of the worst blocks for me. Sure, /c/ exists, but what server should I go to? What communities are there? What ones are actually active? It’s not as easy as reddit was, and if it’s annoyed me then it’s definitely stopped another 10 people from bothering with lemmy :/ Edit: also, ty for the suggestion

Blaze,
@Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

lemmyverse.net/communities is a good way to find communities.

The main indicator is the number of monthly users and how new the content is.

This can be a bit tricky, but it used to be the same on Reddit when there was Gaming, Games, VideoGames and all the variants. Over time, one community emerged as the one

Wolpertinger,
@Wolpertinger@sh.itjust.works avatar

What niche communities do you recommend?

JayJay,

I use boost for lemmy which was made by the same guy who made it for reddit. It looks and acts pretty much the same.

tocopherol,
@tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

I honestly think a small part of Mastodon’s problem is the name, for a while I would just think of the metal band or the fossil record. I feel like at least for me there is a subconscious effect that names and branding have that can be hard to notice.

HolyDriver,

Lemmy makes me think of the Scottish comedian, and also good ol’ lemmiwinks

Murdoc,

🎵A brave adventure is waiting for ahead…

Carry onward Lemmywinks or you will soon be dead! 🎶

OCATMBBL,

All I hear is the black power ranger transformation from the original series.

moist_and_damp,

wasn’t Lemmy named because that dude died in 2015

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