The final nail in Reddit's coffin dropped today:

Dear User,

We will soon begin rolling out changes to Reddit’s User settings. It is getting a refresh that includes changes to ad personalization, privacy preferences, and location settings.

As part of these changes, we are retiring a setting that you have previously turned on that limited how we used your activity from the Reddit platform to personalize ads. We have replaced the setting with a new option to select categories of ads that you may not wish to see.

More details are available in our announcement and help center.

These changes are rolling out starting today and you may see the changes over the next few days.

Users will be tracked with no opt out. Posts may be monetized, which will make content even worse No refund or any type of usable credit for users that spent hundreds on Reddit coins The entire vibe has done a 180° since all these new “positive changes” are rolled out.

Chais,
@Chais@sh.itjust.works avatar

No opt out? Expect trouble from the EU.

DocBlaze,

does Reddit still have a .onion site? I feel like perhaps you can use the .onion site and be able to escape this. the tor browser was specifically modified from Firefox to avoid fingerprinting.

otter,
@otter@lemmy.ca avatar

I think this is more for accounts, since it tracks upvote/downvote, etc

HughJanus,

Fingerprinting is mostly pointless once you’re logged into the site.

You can use Mullvad which is TOR but without the TOR.

PrincessLeiasCat,

Can you explain more about Mullvad wrt Tor? I’m shopping for a new VPN & looked into Mullvad extensively because it’s my #1 choice so far. What about it specifically makes you say that?

HughJanus,

Mullvad the browser, not the VPN. They partnered with the TOR project to create it. So it has all the same browser protections of the TOR browser except that it doesn’t go through the TOR network so it’s actually mostly useable for general daily use.

Mullvad is probably the best choice exclusively for VPN. I chose Proton only because of their “suite” of products under a single subscription.

PrincessLeiasCat,

Ahhhh, my apologies…I completely misunderstood!

Thank you for taking the time to explain all that, and for the positive words about Mullvad VPN. My current subscription is almost up, so I should get it soon. Have a good one :)

ForgotAboutDre,

They did mention the options with different in some locations.

tdawg,

It’s common to run different rulesets based on region

Gargleblaster,
@Gargleblaster@kbin.social avatar

This would've resulted in my leaving if I hadn't left in June.

Saved me 3.5 months.

TheFriar,

Right? I hope more and more people leave. It’d be great if more users came to lemmy, but I’d be content just seeing people leave that putrid site

CheatMageLVL99,

I might just start visiting forums for relevant information again. Lemmy seems to be pretty decent for now. Reddit really has gone downhill.

dth,
@dth@lemmy.world avatar

the announcement was finally the one that made me leave. better late than never i guess!

Jimbo,
@Jimbo@yiffit.net avatar

Welcome!

dth,
@dth@lemmy.world avatar

thank you very much!

TehWorld,

I’m not spending much time on Reddit these days but in no way is this the end for Reddit. The VAST majority of the user base just doesn’t care. We may see more users trickling in and Lemmy is sure more ready now than ever but people are so used to being advertised to, that this won’t be a big issue long term. People are dumb.

Rolando,

The hope is that the non-dumb people will leave for here, and that they’re the ones who make quality content.

ElleChaise,

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  • Rhynoplaz,

    All I’ve done is shown people my politics and bitch about assholes!

    skillissuer,
    @skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

    o7

    Send_me_nude_girls,
    @Send_me_nude_girls@feddit.de avatar

    I can’t find the asshole post.

    omgarm,

    Like an average thursday night with friends.

    camr_on,
    @camr_on@lemmy.world avatar

    Keep up the quality content lmao

    iheartneopets,

    Fuckin legend

    rDrDr,

    Reddit users will be reposting Lemmy content for real money gold by 2025. Fucking spez…

    JohnnyEnzyme, (edited )

    One thing I hadn’t thought much about until recently-- the quality of comments is so much higher here, and I don’t have to typically scroll through a wasteland of dudebro jokes to get to relevant replies.

    So, comments are also ‘content,’ and from what I’m seeing, Lemmy already has a distinctly smarter / more mature userbase.

    DogMuffins,

    Yeah no one who’s still there cares at all.

    HughJanus,

    I’m sure they care at least a little bit but not enough to move on

    vanontom,
    @vanontom@lemmy.world avatar

    2016: All I need, to have hope for the future, is a large majority of people willing to slightly inconvenience themselves to produce positive changes.

    2023: Human intelligence has peaked, idiocracy is here, I for one welcome our AI overlords, earthonfire.jxl, etc.

    foggy,

    Idk man, literally asked a bunch (3) of friends how reddit is lately who had no idea what was going on this summer with the API changes and didn’t care when I told them. Here are there responses:

    “They’ve gotten really bad at putting relevant shit in front of me”

    “Been a ton more ads lately”

    And

    “dude thank you for telling me reddit had porn lol”

    Emperor,
    @Emperor@feddit.uk avatar

    “dude thank you for telling me reddit had porn lol”

    There’s what now?!

    drekly,

    Lemmynsfw.com

    Emperor,
    @Emperor@feddit.uk avatar

    Jesus

    zerofk,

    Jesus had abandoned us. To go watch porn.

    Shush,

    I always wondered if there were people oblivious to porn on reddit. It always seemed like common knowledge those days.

    It’s not the usual manufactured porn by companies, it’s usually people showcasing a video of themselves.

    DrQuint,

    A lot of people’s approach to social media is

    • login an absolute total of times equal to one, on an app, and never again, that session better last
    • do zero content curation, what comes is what you eat
    • mostly scroll past shit, don’t interact, don’t produce
    • maybe click on a navigation link once or twice per month

    So of course they don’t know there’s porn. They’re basically only seeing their feed (which is a clone of /r/popular, so a bunch of clones of /r/funny and ragebait) and the default subs, which doesn’t have porn by default ever since reddit removed its ability to show up on default feeds.

    Shush,

    I meant more around “reddit is known for having porn channels” and less “reddit pushes porn in your default feeds”.

    You’re right though, the casual dead-minded scroller wouldn’t know about it.

    JackFrostNCola,

    It used to be moreso, but before i left reddit it turned into people spamming promoting their onlyfans accounts, some subs felt like scrolling through a gallery of ads.

    lud,

    The amount of porn on reddit is astonishing.

    Just go to r/randnsfw a few times.

    Juvyn00b,

    Aww man it’s banned…

    lud,

    Nah it works fine.

    You might have to use old reddit: old.reddit.com/r/randnsfw (WARNING the link might be extremely NSFW)

    It should redirect you to a random nsfw sub, just like /r/random

    recarsion,

    Redirected me to r/welding, wtf

    KSPAtlas,
    @KSPAtlas@sopuli.xyz avatar

    hot sexy welders in your area

    dylanTheDeveloper,
    @dylanTheDeveloper@lemmy.world avatar

    Only if you have an account, can’t view NSFW subreddits or posts without one

    ConstipatedWatson,

    I completely agree with this!

    Also, it’s an unfortunate rule of thumb that, when you see a sensationalized headline, most likely it won’t have the effect it claims to have…

    Well, let’s hope there’s a steady migration to Lemmy (though numbers are small here)

    Edit: added last line

    Jah348,

    This is for sure the final nail, it’s going to collapse just like Facebook and Google did after all that ad stuff. Profiting off a user data is clearly a failed business model and we see that time and time again.

    mysoulishome,
    @mysoulishome@lemmy.world avatar

    That infographic with the most profitable companies in the world…both of them are still on it. And Reddit wants to be.

    HughJanus,

    Facebook, the site with 3B MAU?

    Uranium3006,
    @Uranium3006@kbin.social avatar

    The weird thing about the internet is it's hard to make money. Information is free in.both senses of the term

    AdamEatsAss,

    They reset all my notification settings. I deleted the app.

    gabe,

    It’s only just begun. That’s what they said about Xitter ages ago as well, but if it can get worse it absolutely fucking will

    ronalicious,

    privacy badger, ghostery, ublock origins, etc…

    Whisp,

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  • jabberati,
    @jabberati@social.anoxinon.de avatar

    Is there a reason to use anything else besides uBlockOrigin?

    noodlejetski,

    depends, but definitely not Privacy Badger or Ghostery github.com/arkenfox/user.js/wiki/4.1-Extensions#-…

    middlemanSI,

    I’ve used ghostery for years now…Missed this memo. What is an alternative to it please?

    noodlejetski,

    that link covers recommended add-ons, too.

    middlemanSI,

    Pardon. I use ABP so it wasn’t clear. “Redundant with Total Cookie Protection (dFPI)”. Looks like using Firefox takes care of that. Cheers

    PupBiru,
    @PupBiru@kbin.social avatar

    afaik this is only reddit activity, so they’re going to be able to track anything and everything no matter what privacy addons you’re using if you’re logged in

    Gingerlegs,

    Fuck spez. Aaron never would have done this

    WarmSoda,

    Aaron was also only with the company for like 3 months.

    Maeve,

    I still mourn him. Such an avoidable tragedy.

    Uranium3006,
    @Uranium3006@kbin.social avatar

    Fuck the US government for driving him to suicide

    imPastaSyndrome,

    Aaron was a shitty libertarian pedo

    Mousebulb,

    wow, it really is just slow erosion of our rights, huh?

    extremely disappointed that we are all fighting for our basic fucking human rights (e.g. privacy) instead of, i dunno, fighting climate change? There’s little hope that we can do what we did with the ozone layer again…

    Pons_Aelius,

    The problem is you (and many others, not singling you out here) believed you had rights on a privately controled web platform.

    This has never been the case.

    In the past reddit said and had "terms of service" that suited their business goals at the time. In the past, those goals were: Use VC money to grow the platform as large as possible as fast as possible.

    Now that Reddit is looking to go public with an IPO, those goals have changed.

    The goal is now. Generate as much revenue as possible from the user-base created with the VC money.

    recarsion,

    And it’s going to work simply because of people not caring and because of the difficulty of switching platforms. I myself am guilty of this, I’m still using reddit for the communities that haven’t moved over to Lemmy yet, though I’ve reduced my usage because I refuse to install the official app for Android after they killed third party apps. Now that Boost is available for Lemmy, I’ll be making the gradual switch. But I doubt the majority of users will bother doing the same.

    Pyro,

    Thank god I left early

    WarmSoda,

    Sucks to suck.

    skillissuer,
    @skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

    you underestimate people’s complacency and inertia, in no way this is end of reddit

    wilberfan,
    @wilberfan@lemmy.world avatar

    Exactly.

    DrQuint,

    Yeah, people think tracking you for ads will dissuade anyone? Like, Instagram has a content to ad ratio of 33%, and people give zero fucks.

    I don’t think people will ever leave, and I don’t think we should want them to leave either. We can build better, smaller platforms much more easily than we can’t fix the world’s attitude and consumption trends towards the large ones.

    JokeDeity,

    I mean, having some users isn’t the same as having a ton of users using the product for hours a day. They can still say people are using it, but it’s far from how it used to be (actually goes for Instagram and Facebook as well). There will always be people still using them, but for less time and getting less enjoyment out of it. The majority of users will not use it much at all, only out of some sense of necessity. Instagram and Facebook are literally unusable in my opinion due to ads and sponsored content, most people I know that used to spend hours on those two sites now barely use them at all, and that’s the direction Reddit wants to head in.

    ikidd,
    @ikidd@lemmy.world avatar

    So what’s the current method for overwriting and removing comments before account deletion?

    Rai,

    refunds for people who spent memory on Reddit coins

    Yeeeeeaaaaahhhhh all of your points are valid but if anyone ever spent money on coins, it’s all in the trash anyway

    Apollo let me turn awards off and it was one of the best features. So much cleaner.

    hiramfromthechi,
    @hiramfromthechi@lemmy.world avatar

    If you wanna keep your bookmarks and the subreddits (communities) that you’re subscribed to before deleting your Reddit account, I made a free tool to help you store and offload that data.

    It’s called Reddit Account Manager, and it’s 100% free.

    You can also use it to manage your Lemmy account(s), of course.

    detalferous,

    Thanks for such an awesome trip!

    Users can also use Redact to delete their data, and then delete their reddit account

    old.reddit.com/r/…/reddit_seppuku_how_to/

    hiramfromthechi,
    @hiramfromthechi@lemmy.world avatar

    Yep, the ideal workflow for migrating would be something like this:

    1. Use Reddit Account Manager to neatly organize and store your Reddit accounts, bookmarks, and subscriptions
    2. Request your data archive from Reddit itself
    3. Use something like Redact or Power Delete Suite to remove your content from Reddit
    4. Permanently delete your accounts from Reddit
    5. Move to a federated alternative (optional)
    noodlejetski,

    how do I get it without giving away my email address to some random website?

    Amends1782,

    You should be using an email forwarding/alias service such as SimpleLogin, or apples proprietary hide my email service for example. You can have an infinite amount of alias emails that all forward to your main, and have 100% control over.

    The other option is older school, just make another account somewhere. You can also create automated rules to just forward all emails from their to your main too.

    noodlejetski,

    sure, but people could also host their freeware in a way that doesn’t require me to do any of those.

    hiramfromthechi,
    @hiramfromthechi@lemmy.world avatar

    I’d open source it if I could, but since Reddit Account Manager is built without code, I can’t host it on GitLab or GitHub.

    Amends1782,

    I agree, but your question wasn’t phrased that way :p

    noodlejetski,

    sigh because sometimes instead of telling someone “it sucks that in order to get that one piece of software from your website you make me create an account despite me never going to visit it again”, you can phrase it a bit more politely and hope that they, you know, figure out the intent behind the question rather than take it so incredibly literally.

    hiramfromthechi,
    @hiramfromthechi@lemmy.world avatar

    You could use a service like SimpleLogin, Addy, Duck, or just a temporary fake email generator. I don’t mind if you give me a fake email address—you have a right to privacy.

    If it helps, my website’s hiram.io. I realize that’s still “random” in the grand scheme of things, but it should at least show you I’m a real person, and I build stuff to build a better web.

    Mango,

    Can I use this with Android?

    hiramfromthechi,
    @hiramfromthechi@lemmy.world avatar

    Your question’s a little nuanced, so let me try to answer this as thoroughly as possible:

    The short answer is: If the platform you choose to use it is accessible from your Android phone, then yes. But it’s not Android- or iOS-specific.

    Out of the platforms that it’s available on (Airtable, Notion, Coda, ClickUp, and Baserow), all of them except for Baserow have native mobile apps. With that said, Baserow is also mobile responsive, so you don’t need a native mobile app to work with Reddit Account Manager.

    • Reddit Account Manager is a template built on top of those tools (Airtable, Notion, Coda, ClickUp, and Baserow), so you’ll need an account with at least one of those to use it.
    • Reddit Account Manager is built without code.

    Hope that clears things up. :)

    Mango,

    Uhh yeah that didn’t clear things up.

    I don’t have a computer and I want all my Reddit content deleted without having to do manual labor for the next several months.

    Selmafudd,

    Reddit is shit and not being able to opt out of being tracked is shit but honestly if you can choose to block gambling ads etc that’s actually pretty good

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