3TH4Li4,
@3TH4Li4@feddit.ch avatar

It’s going to end up similar as when an AI was trained on 4chan. Mega racist and homophobic but also hyper sensitive because its Twitter (not gonna call it the new name)

Bandicoot_Academic,

Great idea. Trainning an AI model on twitter totaly didn’t go terribly wrong the last time it was tried. /s

shotgun_crab,

If the data is public, can’t anyone use it to train anyway? (besides rate limits to get the actual data, of course)

possiblylinux127,

I’m still calling it twitter

SilverFlame,

I call it Xitter (pronounced as Shitter)

maegul,
@maegul@lemmy.ml avatar

I see this as a challenge to the fediverse? Our platforms are open and amenable to being used for AI training. Mastodon is full of human made image descriptions, some of them quite detailed.

Does the fediverse want to do anything different? Closed / private / human only spaces?

Treczoks,

It's more like a non-privacy policy and should be called that.

chaklun,

It’s gonna be the dumbest AI in human history

Treczoks,

Yea, but it would be good at right-wing slogans and racial slurs.

selokichtli,

“xAI”. The success of this AI will be measured whether it changes its name or not.

bandario,
@bandario@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Joke’s on them, I never made a single post.

Twitter was shit from the very beginning.

vis4valentine,
@vis4valentine@lemmy.ml avatar

An AI model trained on posts from Nazis. What can go wrong?

SinningStromgald,

Headline: Cyber Hitler Bans Jews from the Internet!

threegnomes,

that’s just the latest twitter news in a few months

Jat620DH27,

“Just public data, not DMs or anything private,” huh?

Obviously Elon Musk considers everything we post on Twitter as his personal wealth… It’s true though, since all our personal data is stored on his servers, and he can scrape whatever he wants.

It’s time to step into a decentralized peer-to-peer social media where we will no longer be exploited by Twitter, Facebook, or whatever platform, and there are no more central servers to gather your data without consent.

dilan,

True, and Anonymity is important as well, I am suppose to recommend Mastodon, etc. But they do require Email address as an identity verification.

Nostr www.nostrapps.com or WireMin wiremin.org

Both of them are decentralized social media, and does not require personal info to register.

ShellMonkey,
@ShellMonkey@lemmy.socdojo.com avatar

Some measure of accountability for getting an account needs to be kept in my opinion. Pure anonymity lends itself to things like 4Chan emerging, which is an intersting place to be sure but not exactly conducive to a reasoned discussion. Pretty hard to send some pictures to aunt judy if everyone is just anon.

primalmotion,
@primalmotion@lemmy.antisocial.ly avatar

Well not really. You are very welcome to set up your own instance and own your data.

SSUPII,

Go ahead, train on me not writing a single thing and just retweeting exclusively Pokémon drawings from Japanese artists.

Ensign_Crab,

How useful would an AI model be if it were trained on the content from a social media platform full of nazis, russian trolls, and bots?

woshang,

I guess…full of sh*t.

miss_brainfart,
@miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml avatar

Didn’t we kinda see this happen already? I don’t remember which product it was. Was it one of Microsofts trial runs?

aeternum,

it was Tay. She went super fuckin racist.

miss_brainfart,
@miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml avatar

Oh yeah, that’s the one. Who could’ve seen this coming, right?

aeternum,

haha yeah. I can only imagine what an AI trained on twitter would be like. Way worse than Tay I think.

thrawn,

Worse in the insidiously-pushing-dark-agendas manner for sure, and an altogether much greater threat to humanity. It couldn’t match Tay for straight up insane evil— she was loudly supporting eugenics and more— but that makes it more dangerous.

TheAnonymouseJoker,
@TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml avatar

I knew that there were never any Russian trolls on Twitter, and that Twitter has often hinted at its users worshipping and never criticising NATO, and that Snowden’s leaks told us Twitter was deep in with US government, NOT Russian government.

So why do USA trolls often claim lies about the existence of Russian trolls on Twitter, which was debunked last year? www.youtube.com/watch?v=28vylXZvec4

gravitas_deficiency,

Hey! You must be new to the internet. Here’s a tip:

Just because someone says something is debunked - even if that someone had a YouTube channel with a ton of followers - doesn’t mean it’s actually debunked. People do, in fact, just go on the internet and tell lies, and it’s pretty common.

TheAnonymouseJoker,
@TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml avatar

What I posted is not a “YouTube” source, but an easy way that gives context around the actual source, and it allowing in turn to search the actual source of information easily.

Consider that other people can be older than you, and that information may not be presented in the singular form or method that you approve of.

gravitas_deficiency,

Oh, that’s not what I’m saying.

I’m saying you’re spreading nonsense propaganda and are pushing an agenda that effectively enables Russian military adventurism and imperialism/nationalism, and I’m calling you out on it. I was just being a bit oblique about it. But I can be direct, too.

TheAnonymouseJoker,
@TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml avatar

Too bad the facts are not on your side. And you are simply pushing a neoliberal agenda meant to invent a Russian boogeyman, when none existed ever on Twitter.

If facts mean “enabling” Russian military instead of lies “enabling” American military-media complex to fool its citizen voters every few years of this imaginary Russian or Chinese or North Korean boogeymen, then I am happy to “enable” the Russian military. USA is the source of lies, and you, the useful idiot. I can be straight and very blunt if one likes it that way.

gravitas_deficiency,

I am not insinuating that the US is some paragon of virtue and blameless, nor was I trying to.

I am saying that you’re falling into the same trap you’re trying to say I fell into, only from the other side.

But from the looks of your second paragraph, you’re just a tankie, so this conversation is clearly not going to go anywhere.

TheAnonymouseJoker,
@TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml avatar

Trying to imitate the persona of a rational intellectual, while downvoting, and then in the same breath calling people “tankie” just makes you look like the average pseudo-intellectual hipster. Not a very helpful way to determine who and who not to give advice to, and certainly not a way to sound credible or grounded.

“Both sides” is just a cheapshot fence sitter tactic to look good, but functionally achieves nothing and benefits no one.

gravitas_deficiency,

You’re pushing apologist narratives that are friendly to China (a current and ongoing perpetrator of ethnic cleansing within their own borders), Russia (a historical, current, and ongoing perpetrator of ethnic cleansing and genocide within and outside of its own borders, and the aggressor in the Ukrainian War), and North Korea (a totalitarian pariah state), all because those three nations have a vague historical connection to Marxist-Leninist politics (which, pointedly, they’re very, VERY far removed from these days). That’s what “being a tankie” is.

TheAnonymouseJoker,
@TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml avatar

You are pushing propagandist US military narratives that advocate for the genocide, destruction and dehumanisation of US “enemy” States like China, Russia, Iran, North Korea and so on. You have precisely zero understanding of socialist history and are a malicious Western propagandist who wants to use ad hominems and paint others in a negative coat of paint and and desire to argue in bad faith against Marxists.

For this reason, I will take the liberty of temp banning you, not for a personal disagreement, but for politicising others in a bad faith and malicious manner, and for using the “tankie” word to harass people.

LegionEris,

Seeing someone imply that older users want their news and information parsed by YouTube personalities is wild. That’s quite an assertion.

TheAnonymouseJoker,
@TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml avatar

Grayzone is not a YouTube e-celeb personality. They are an anti-imperialist journalistic news outlet.

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