I’m just using emacs org-mode and Obsidian for task management, and keeping track of my learning new code-y things… but no backlinks or anything yet. Was trying Zettlr as well. Waiting for an excuse to get really fancy with it.
Been using Roam on and off for a while. A friend of mine calls it her exocortex and I’ve been feeling similarly. As someone with ADHD it’s so nice to be able to offload a bunch of mental overhead to a place where I can just review it later without having to struggle to recall what I wanted to remember!
Never heard of PKMS before, but I’ve looked a few of them up and they seem cool! I just finished exams for this semester, but they seem like good systems for note taking. For example in my Java subject they were talking about data structures like Queues and Stacks that we learned in the algorithms and data structures subject so I could just link that inline.
I’m not sure if it counts, but I’ve been using Joplin for a couple years now to keep notes on various things in my life, ranging from gaming/movie logs to how to properly install some self-hosted service on a NAS. I’m curious to learn more about PKMSs though.
I would say that counts! Is there anything specific you’re curious about? Particular issues in your personal system or interesting things you’ve seen from others?
Sorry for the delayed response! No particular issues, just interesting to see that there’s a name and a community for this kind of system, and even that there is a system!
I keep information I need to return to for work and personal life in there. I’ve been less disciplined lately as I’ve been doing a lot of journaling to explore my mental health needs
I'm just curious at this point. I'd like to spin up a second brain but I've tried a few options - Zim, Obsidian, OneNote, text files synced with Dropbox, nothing seems to really stick for me.
The biggest struggle with obsidian was how it seemed to try to subtly push me to link everything together. I have a very disorganised neurospicy mind and I was hoping to be able to offload the burden of organising stuff to a program on my computer, but I couldn't intuitively get to grips with how Obsidian could help me with that other than just pushing me to do it myself.
My main requirement is being able to type in facts or thoughts, and have them offloaded somewhere (I don't care where but would prefer it be local). Then later on I could bash in a few keywords and the program would spit out things it knows about those keywords. I don't want to be involved in trying to organise my thoughts. That way lies madness. :P
people love logseq for this type of note taking. the idea is you have a daily journal that creates a new page (from a template if you like), and you use backlinks to connect ideas. then you can click on any subject you’ve journaled about and it’ll bring up a list of places where you’ve mentioned this thing. For example if you’re learning a programming language, you can just type [[clojure]] and it’ll show up on the clojure page.
I have a template that has an embedded page that keeps track of tasks I’m currently focusing on, a section for my random musings and journalings throughout the day.
@PsychrolutesMarcidus They have a really active Discord community, and I'm guessing they might address it if you mention it to them. Here's the link: https://discord.gg/kCGeBVGt Especially since this tool is aimed at other developers.
I dunno. It is a pretty popular complaint about electron apps. They probably know about it, but it will take time to fine tune electron to use less resources.
@PsychrolutesMarcidus If you run it from the browser does it still use as much RAM? I've seen a lot of people post that they hate Electron apps, but I didn't fully understand why. Thank you for explaining. 😊
Yeah, ram usage is probably the most notable thing people seems to hate about electron apps. You are basically running another chromium browser. Which maybe fine for some other task. But for making notes it seems to be an overkill.
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It makes easier switching between different projects, even suspended ones, that i forget almost completely.
It gives me small successes - i've made a note, hoorah :)
I keep interesting and mine.
@PsychrolutesMarcidus It’s definitely something that you have to practice, so don’t feel overwhelmed!
I personally don’t write a summary immediately, instead taking little notes of specific thoughts in the text I want to remember. Those little notes are in my own words. Then, I scan the notes to see how many talk about the same idea, and use my short notes as a framework to build a zettel.
It’s important that you understand the idea. If you lack understanding, it’s hard to write a zettel that encapsulates the idea well enough to sensibly use it years down the line.
I find having the annotator plugin for my PDFs helps, as I can make my notes in the first pass including explicitly making all the links I want to to other documents.
Previously I’d do a quick read through and then a very detailed read to make notes manually. Finding the energy for the 2nd step was sometimes a challenge.
Personal Wikis fit right in, if you ask me! I too tried out a wiki first (wiki.js) and it was really nice, but somehow obsidian felt “right” to me. No Web Browser to open, local files, offline access. It lowers the barriers a lot and I can quickly open it, write down a word I’d like to remember, and close it again. It is basically a wonderful PKMS but also my favourite quick note App.
That’s one of the elements of Zim Wiki I really like, no browser, local files, offline access too. The downside being that there’s no mobile version (so far as I’m aware), and there’s some other limits, but for a desktop/laptop personal wiki, it’s been great to me.
That said, thanks to Joplin being cross-platform, it sees more use on my end, which I imagine is similar for folks using Obsidian (alongside other formatting options it provides).
The best thing about Obsidian is it follows your flow, not the other way around. I moved from Joplin (for 2 reasons, No plugins in mobile and no metadata mechanism) and luckily I moved early before making too many notes to migrate.
I wanted to learn TiddlyWiki but I wanted to be able to edit from my iOS device. As far as I remember, I needed an app to do that, one that wasn't officially supported. So I went to Obsidian instead. I appreciate that it stores notes on your device so you are not locked in in case anything happens. And that I have an officially supported iOS app.
So I just postponed watching valuable content, because I need it to watch while taking notes. It is different to when I just watched videos and felt smart for a minute. Only to forget about it in a week…
I don't have the energy to watch everything right away, but I can just send it to a Read/Watch It Later area or copy/paste the URL into a "to be processed later" area.
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