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ada, in OoTL... instances versus communities versus magazines
@ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Magazines are, broadly speaking, what lemmy calls communities

cats,
@cats@lemmy.world avatar

I thought kbin calls them magazines and lemmy calls them communities

ada,
@ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Yep. Magazines are kbin things, and they’re the equivalent of the things that lemmy calls communities

fubo, in What’s the deal with lemmy.world and beehaw?

All of these services are very new. Exactly what people want out of them — including what the people operating instances want out of them — is still being worked out.

This is not a commercial production service that you have a contract with. It’s an experimental system run by volunteers who don’t all have the same ideas in mind. People aren’t just working out the kinks — the process of discovering what this is all really for is still ongoing.

Expect friction. Expect weirdness. Expect rapid growth and, therefore, rapid change.

Also, expect people to fuss when they get surprised they can’t do something they want to. That’s also normal.

ada,
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To clarify a minor point, beehaw isn’t new. It was established in Feb 2022, and it’s been thriving with a relatively small community up until this months crazy growth. They’re not so much finding their feet as trying to maintain an existing communities safety in the face of rapid growth.

TiffyBelle,
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Seems they’re just discovering what being “federated” actually means.

ada,
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Not at all. They’ve been one of the largest instances on lemmy for over a year, and they federated widely during that time. The issue is that lemmy is still a relatively immature platform in terms of moderation features. The workload on their moderators to sustain federation and community safety with rudimentary moderation tools whilst the threadiverse population increases in size over 1000 fold is incredibly high.

So until moderation tools improve, their options are

  1. Give up their safety focus. We can assume that’s not going to happen
  2. Find more admins, which is easier said than done, because at this point in time, one of the lacking moderation features is the ability to add instance moderators. Right now, the only instance elevated role is admin. You have to be able to trust the new admin with the keys to everything.
  3. Defederate with instances that threaten their high value on community safety
TiffyBelle,
@TiffyBelle@feddit.uk avatar

My point is, there wasn’t really all that much content on other instances that would have posed a problem from a federation perspective before Lemmy blew up due to the reddit stuff. They largely were used to being in their own bubble with limited outside influence due to the obscurity of the Lemmy platform broadly.

I respect their desire to form the community how they see fit. That’s the beauty of the fediverse after all. I think it’ll be confusing for new users though who aren’t used to federation, both from those outside the instance and those who only created an account there because it hosted several large communities without really thinking about the implications of what the admins desire for their instance.

The answer is to create communities that mirror their biggest on more general purpose instances. A lot of contributors to Beehaw’s communities who weren’t on their instance probably feel a little miffed that they were helping pump content onto the Lemmy platform broadly, and now they’ve been defederated. Kinda sucks, but a good lesson for choosing your instance and the instance of communities you choose to contribute content to and help build, I guess.

ada,
@ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Everything you’ve said here though is very different to your previous comment about them not understanding federation.

This reply is closer to the truth. They understand it quite fine, but have different priorities, and those priorities probably weren’t clear to a lot of their new members

Mysteriarch,
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It's the other way around: new people and instances are learning that federation also means that other servers don't want to federate with you, and that that's okay. This is different from the usual 'freeze peach' stuff, this is just communities saying 'we don't want to hear you'.

TheOneCurly, in ...what's with the "rule" posts?
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I had to look this up too after they started blowing up the feeds on every instance. www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=r%2F196

It appears to be a popular general meme community where everyone must post something, so there’s a lot of content.

BLAMM67,
@BLAMM67@beehaw.org avatar

Beat me to it. Was just typing up an answer.

Goldenderp,

Huh, TIL! Thank you

WaterSword,
@WaterSword@lemmy.world avatar

It’s considered a very lgbtq+ friendly community, and it announced closing entirely in the wake of the Reddit blackout, so a lot of its members have come here to Lemmy.

FaceDeer,
@FaceDeer@kbin.social avatar

Oh oh, I visited it and didn't post anything. I broke the rule.

In my defence, I was hopelessly confused.

emeralddawn45, in What'd up with all the ich_lel fish/sturgeon memes?

Ich is also a disease that fish get so maybe that’s it?

sadreality, in What’s up with US President Biden and the sudden crackdown on immigration?

Got to stop these wages from causing too much inflation

🤡

Outtatime, in Went on All today and saw many posts celebrating Sen. Feindtein's recent passing. Why is she so hated on the left?

They shouldn’t worry. They will replace her with a far left individual

sin_free_for_00_days,

If by “far left” you mean someone right-of-center like Biden, then I agree.

x4740N, in What's going on with Google's search engine?

Google is really useless for some things unless you know how to use search operators

InternetUser2012, in What's up with the Trump mugshots?

He might need a doctor, looks like he smells burnt toast.

BuboScandiacus, in Why is everyone talking about Sync? How is it better than other apps for Lemmy like Connect and Jerboa?
@BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz avatar

Use infinity for lemmy

It’s free software and yu can get it on fdroid

owlinsight, in What‘s the big deal about that superconductor stuff?

From what I’ve heard (feel free to add to it or to correct me):

Our technology uses normal conductors. Computers, gaming consoles, smartphones etc are all limited in their performance by the power of the conductors. Super conductors existed already, however they require (near to) freezing temperature. That obviously makes it impossible to use those superconductors in normal daily technology.

If however we could have superconductors who can work at normal temperature and don’t require extreme cold, we could have superconductors that massively increase the efficiency of our technology (more efficient smartphone battery life, better electric cars etc)

jimmydoreisalefty, in What is JFKJr all about?

Did you mean Robert Francis Kennedy Jr., the democrat running for president for 2024?

jimmydoreisalefty,

He is the “populist” canidate that is for peace, except for Palestine-Israel.

mom, in What is happening with the FMHY instance?
bobs_monkey,

Thanks mom, now where’s the meatloaf

Bakwerk, in What's going on with Google's search engine?

I’ve come to the conclusion that blaming a company for being evil or greedy is pointless because companies do not have ears to hear nor brains to think or feel with (as they are social constructs and nothing more). Therefore, when the Google search engine sucks, it’s because the developers who work at Google are incompetent. When the new Battlefield game launched and was a mess, it was because the developers who worked on it had no idea what they were doing.

BarelyOriginal, in Why do YouTube usernames have @ in front of them now when you look at comments?

This change was added a number of years ago when youtube added (limited) hierarchical comment structures. When you reply to a comment, youtube automatically adds @USERNAME of the person you reply to. You can remove it, but it’s relatively useful if there are multiple replies within a reply structure

BitingChaos, in OotL: What happened with Elon Musk? And Twitter?
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I know this is an old post, but anyone that knows anything about Elon has known that he’s always been a big asshole.

It’s been nearly SIX YEARS since he started the weird name-calling online (calling someone a pedo). He’s only been ramping up the idiocy since, with it really going into overdrive during the pandemic.

The period from six years ago to three years ago he was mostly a meme. “What wacky shit will Elon post this time?” is what people thought. He became more common in the public’s eyes. It didn’t mean people actually liked him or that he was a cool dude.

He’s gone down hill more the past three years, and especially the last one year.

He posts stuff like “lock Fauci up” and conspiracies and other right-wing / Qanon shit. Giving a platform to right-wing / Qanon / nazi idiots. He’s destroying twitter, chasing away advertisers and normal people, and welcoming human garbage. Don’t you recall all the fuck Spez / reddit drama, where they kicked off 3rd-party apps? Elon did the same thing with Twitter.

BrudderAaron,
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Don’t forget about making twitter as user unfriendly as possible with anyone being able to buy verification and now putting a pathetically small limit on posts you can view per day. Also if you don’t have an account, good luck even going to the site because Elon does NOT want you to see posts without giving him the account creation data!

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