There was a community on the old site called 196, where the only “rule” was that you had to post something before leaving. It leaked over here because of a few splinter communities here popping up on the All feed, but if you look closer most of those posts will be to various 196 communities.
In other words, it’s not actually an enforceable rule, just one of those social things that pop up.
It’s an evolution of 195 - a sub created by roommates in the same dorm (room 195) to share memes with one another that ended up exploding. I believe there’s also 197 and maybe others created in the same vein.
Musk previously owned an online banking site known as x.com, which would later merge with PayPal, another service founded by Musk, which then became a separate entity with Musk no longer being involved it.
And when Musk was forced to complete the purchase of Twitter, he announced plans to make Twitter into a “Super app” like China’s WeChat application, which can be used for payments.
Musk’s hyperfocus on X might also be because when he was in his twenties, everything “cool” was having an X in it, like XForce and stuff like that.
He also wanted to create his X Corp company to have a single X as its name, but he couldn’t do that because there was an Alphabet company already using that name.
Musk didn’t found PayPal. X.com merged with Confinity, another online financial site (founded by Peter Thiel and others). Confinity had already begun development of PayPal at that time. In the resulting company, still called X.com, there was a series of leadership conflicts, with Musk pushing out CEO Bill Harris to become CEO, before himself being replaced by Peter Thiel. It was under Thiel that the company changed it’s name to PayPal, and later went public. By the time there was a company called “PayPal”, Musk was not longer involved with daily operations.
More seriously: Elon decided it’s a good move to rebrand his new toy. Nobody knows for sure what’s going through his head. It’s probably some sort of OCD, or something…
Posts from communities such as 195 or 196 have one rule - you must post before you leave. As a result, they have a lot of low-quality shitposts with just ‘rule’ as the title - as in, ‘I’m only posting this to follow the rule’.
Click through to the community the post comes from and have a read of its sidebar if the content is confusing you; this might help illuminate why you’re seeing what you’re seeing.
I wouldn’t call them irrelevant, but after they de-federated from the two other biggest mainstream general instances, they are (for now) irrelevant to a huge number of Lemmy users. So even if you can post there, a huge number of users can’t reply
If you want to see Lemmy as one large network, Beehaw have broken them selves off from a large part of that network. Of course Lemmy isn’t really just one big network, but also many small networks, like extremist instances that are already de-federated from mainstream instances.
Beehaw has explicitly set out to create a safe space for their users. This is not necessarily compatible with a more wild-west approach of open signups. Their 4 admins/moderator were simply swamped by bad actors from sh.itjust.works and Lemmy.world, so for now they de-federated pending better moderation tools
Of course it’s well within their right to do so, but as an outsider I’m now much more wary of building anything in their walled garden, in case they decide to close it off further
Part of me wonders if it’s an attempt to tank the SEO, so people can’t search for or news or easily talk about the site anymore - because it’s been nothing but bad.
Vlemmy.net was my first home instance. The admin was responsive, transparent, and, most importantly for me, had a fairly absolutist perspective on free speech, refusing to defederate with anything at all, preferring to leave the choice up to the user. Unfortunately for him and the users, the Irish government, where Vlemmy.net was hosted, has a less favorable view of certain communities that it inevitably federated with.
Because federation causes copies of content to be saved to each federated instance, he wound up finding out that certain communities hosted content that, once saved onto HIS server, would get him sentenced to the Irish equivalent of “Federal Pound-Me-In-The-Ass Prison”. He defederated those instances, but the next day, Vlemmy.net was all but gone. His payment sites for donations now all lead to closed accounts, and I have not heard anything about anyone getting in contact with him.
The common understanding is that he got spooked by the potential legal ramifications, and either got a visit from the Irish authorities or was afraid of that possibility, and so chose to pre-emptively pull the plug. This all occured roughly two weeks ago.
That’s the issue with not defederating from some truly vile, reprehensible instances. It allows their users and content to potentially flood yours which is why there should be exceptions.
Lol, what taxes do you think the lemmy 8mstance would be paying? Ireland is not a tax haven and hasn’t been for quite a while. It does have a moderately low, but non zero, company tax rate, but that’s like saying Texas is a tax haven as their income tax is not the same as California.
Ireland has a well educated young workforce and is in the eu with ties to the USA and speaks English. It’s not odd that tech companies are there. It’s not shell companies there, it’s tech hubs.
I should have clarified that I think Ireland is a tech hotbed for tax reasons, not that the Lemmy instance is there for tax reasons. I’m not trying to discredit the educated workforce in Ireland but I often see the words “taxes” and Ireland together when talking about the large tech companies.
if you set up a shop and the rules are “anything goes”, the people that it will attract are people that were shown the door everywhere else. that’s because unless they are able to set up their own place, they have nowhere else to go. i understand this is motivated by anti-censorship views, but there are beneficial, noncontroversial kinds of censorship. nobody seems to be clutching their pearls when spambots, pedos, impersonators or isis recruitment videos are banned. it’s usually called “functional moderation”
i’m being charitable there and not assuming that it was weirdo instance from the get go. they should have however considered that scenario and maybe set up everything in a place that doesn’t seem to particularly care about content they had, whatever that was
this, along with nazi bar scenario, seems to be a very good argument for swift and preemptive defederation policies
The day before it went down he posted that it was brought to his attention that animated content was illegal in his country. All of this could have been avoided if he properly researched his country’s laws before inviting all this.
It’s not that the people on vlemmy were “shown the door” everywhere else. It was merely the people who decided they wanted to choose for themselves which doors they would enter, and not be told by an admin they couldn’t enter certain doors. The instance I’m on now isn’t defederated with anything either, and if it ever does, I’ll find a new one that doesn’t. I don’t like being told which parts of the internet I’m not intelligent enough to decide for myself about how I feel. I can curate my own feed by simply blocking communities I don’t like, or by only subscribing to ones I do and browsing the Subscribed feed. I get burggit.moe and lemmygrad.ml and exploding-heads and all the other ones people don’t like, and if I see a community on any of them I don’t like, then it’s MY job to block it from my view, not an admins. I respect those who would like a more curated experience and there are instances for that, but don’t assume everyone who is in support of completely open federation is a pedo, nazi, socialist, fascist, or ANYTHING else. It just means they want to decide for themselves.
vlemmy wasn’t shown the door anywhere, but instead vlemmy wasn’t showing the door to anyone either. i can block exploding heads and such, but this only prevents me from seeing their rancid behaviour, it’s still there. for the same reason in fb private groups if you block admins it’s customary to ban you, because everything you do flies under their radar
you might block exploding-heads; but they will influence people that didn’t, and you’ll have no idea. i don’t think it’s practical approach to moderation and community building. exploding-heads were defederated from .world for exact this reason: they would say “oh if this bothers you just block them” but this misses the point completely. they went there to recruit new people and weren’t concerned too much about contributing, instead they saw .world entirely as pool of people yet to be radicalized. if you blocked them as they wanted, that would just decrease their criticism
and that was just a single instance with 30? fuckups to its name when it happened. vlemmy was willingly getting in contact with many more, this is not sustainable. yes, not giving nazis a platform is a good idea, i thought it was already common knowledge
It’s not about you feeling like a big kid or feeling over protected. It’s not the subscriber that is left sitting with a server full of illegal material if someone subscribes to that sort of content, it’s the instance owner, and they will be the ones that end up risking prison
If you want federation with everything, then make your own instance which hosts copies of child abuse, terrorist and hate material. But don’t criticise admins for not wanting to risk jail time so you can feel uncensored.
It was merely the people who decided they wanted to choose for themselves which doors they would enter, and not be told by an admin they couldn’t enter certain doors.
I don’t like being told which parts of the internet I’m not intelligent enough to decide for myself about how I feel.
and if I see a community on any of them I don’t like, then it’s MY job to block it from my view, not an admins.
I can’t see a sensible way to read your comments as anything but critical of admins who choose not to federate with all instances.
My so-called vitriol is because I appreciate that by running an instance, admins are providing a service to me while bearing the brunt of the financial and legal responsibilities that go with that. If I don’t like how they run it, it’s incumbent on me to get out of their house and move into my own rather than complaining.
I actually wonder whether he had trouble blocking the instance he intended to, and just shut down vlemmy instead in the end. It’s pretty strange he just disappeared from everything, though.
Some dumbass made a country song with the usual horrifyingly cliched sort of lyrics, in this case lines such as
”Try that in a small town/ See how far ya make it down the road/ Around here, we take care of our own.”
“Got a gun that my granddad gave me/ They say one day they’re gonna round up/ Well that shit might fly in the city/ Good luck.”
The problem is where the video was set, and contents (many modern protests). WP sums it up as
Accusations of racism prompted a country music channel to pull the video, which is set at the site of an infamous lynching and race riot. But Republicans are embracing Aldean.
Thanks for the summary! My bad, didn’t think “small town country music” would’ve been specific enough to go off, but guess I underestimated the algorithm again. Should’ve at least tried according to some of these responses I guess
The media oligarchs are tired of giving crumbs to the actors that make their content and create their wealth.
They would prefer to give aspiring actors a day’s pay to scan their likeness, own that person’s likeness in perpetuity to generate with AI, and that aspiring actor can go find another career or can fuck off and die as far as they’re concerned.
Humanity’s tolerance for encouragement of insatiable, sociopathic greed will be humanity’s end, and given the current climate, it’s coming soon. Insatiable greed is a destructive disease.
We should look at high level millionaires and billionaires the same way we look at practicing pedophiles, as people with a dangerous disorder they lack the capacity to suppress that need to be stopped, restrained, and treated so they don’t continue to harm the rest of the population. Instead half of us deify them, it’s bonkers.
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